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What Would You Drive, if the Taxpayers Paid?
NY Times ^ | May 1, 2008 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Posted on 04/30/2008 11:06:48 PM PDT by neverdem

Representative Anthony D. Weiner, Democrat of Brooklyn and Queens, drives a 2008 Chevrolet Impala, leased for $219 a month. Representative Michael R. McNulty, a Democrat from the Albany area, gets around in a 2007 Mercury Mariner hybrid, a sport utility vehicle, for $816 a month.

“It gets a little better than 25 miles a gallon,” Mr. McNulty said.

Charles B. Rangel, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, is not so caught up in the question of gas mileage. He leases a 2004 Cadillac DeVille for $777.54 a month. The car is 17 feet long with a 300-horsepower engine and seats five comfortably.

“It’s one of the bigger Cadillacs,” Mr. Rangel, of Harlem, said cheerfully this week. “I’ve got a desk in it. It’s like an airplane.”

Modest or more luxurious, the cars are all paid for by taxpayers. The use of a car — gas included — is one of the benefits of being a member of the House of Representatives.

There are few restrictions on what kind of car the members can choose, and there is no limit on how much they can spend. But the benefit can be politically sensitive, given the growing concerns about automobile emissions and an economy that has left many people struggling to pay for the rapidly rising cost of gas, which was...

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Members have found themselves under fire in their districts for what their constituents may regard as extravagant tastes or for leasing foreign cars. Before the 2006 election, one Ithaca resident denounced Representative Maurice D. Hinchey’s lease of a BMW 530i to The Binghamton Press & Sun-Bulletin, saying that Mr. Hinchey, a Democrat, “sticks it to” the taxpayers and American workers. (Mr. Hinchey also leases a 2007 Nissan Altima for $200 a month for his chief of staff.)...

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Michelle V. Agins/The New York Times
Representative Charles B. Rangel says his leased Cadillac DeVille projects an image of success.
1 posted on 04/30/2008 11:06:48 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I grew up in NYC -— I drive a 1997 Ford Escort. I get between 32 and 37 mpg. My husband drives a 2000 Ford Ranger. When we go up to NYC for my 30th HS reunion in October, we will be taking my Escort. When I have to drive in Brooklyn I want to be driving a vehicle I am REAL familiar with!

Growing up the first car I remember my parents having was a Ford Falcon, then my dad switched to Plymouth Fury, after 3 of them he went witha Delta 88. My grandfather was mostly a Chevy man.

This entire article repulses me, on SO many levels.

I think it is time for me to go back to bed —— good night! :)


2 posted on 04/30/2008 11:19:25 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: neverdem

If I had the choice, it would be Air Force One, Marine One and a red 1956 Cadillac convertible.


3 posted on 04/30/2008 11:19:46 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: neverdem

Businessmen need to look successful. Government officials don’t.


4 posted on 04/30/2008 11:20:03 PM PDT by skr (I serve a risen Savior!)
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To: neverdem

They should all be given used Yugos and “Le Cars.”


5 posted on 04/30/2008 11:32:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: neverdem

I would probably drive or ride in a SUV. Something like a Tahoe or Expedition. Something that four or more people can roll in and carry files and other stuff. Minivan would be an option as well, but I think both are about the same price today.


6 posted on 04/30/2008 11:35:34 PM PDT by neb52
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To: skr

“Businessmen need to look successful. Government officials don’t.”

Especially Congressman and Senators. President is one thing, but I think the Government should just buy a fleet of Tahoes one year and then after three years buy a fleet of Expeditions. Nothing fancy just mid range models. Should get a decent discount on quantity orders.


7 posted on 04/30/2008 11:38:31 PM PDT by neb52
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Give them and their staff bodacious Tatas..


8 posted on 04/30/2008 11:40:45 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: neverdem
Mr. Rangel said he frequently offers rides to constituents so they can discuss their concerns in the luxurious confines of his DeVille. “I want them to feel that they are somebody and their congressman is somebody,” Mr. Rangel explained. “And when they say, ‘This is nice,’ it feels good.”

He should tell the constituents that the car is being paid for by their social security money.

9 posted on 04/30/2008 11:43:34 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Obama and Hillary: Not one bit of constitutional reference in their debates; it's all gimmie gimmie)
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To: neverdem

Actually, I *do* like the idea of a hybrid, but not one of the hampster wheel type..more like a compact SUV, but more than just gas milage, I want an SUV that is designed, and set up, to be used as an emergency back up generator, during power outages and camping trips. I not only want a a weather proteced outlet, accessable from the outside of the car, I want electroninic monitoring, so that the car will shut off if the gass level gets below an 1/8 ogf a tank, and a security remote, so that the car can be turned on and off from inside the house, while denying the ability for someone to enter and drive away when it’s running to power the outlet.


10 posted on 04/30/2008 11:44:45 PM PDT by DGHoodini ("I never did believe you much, anyway...")
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To: neverdem
What Would You Drive, if the Taxpayers Paid?


11 posted on 04/30/2008 11:54:03 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: neverdem
Representative Charles B. Rangel says his leased Cadillac DeVille projects an image of success.

Looking at the photo, I'd say it projects an image of not really caring about the "NO PARKING TODAY" sign covering the parking meter at the spot his Caddy is occupying. But really, that's an old rig, and to me at least, it isn't an image of success, it just looks like another old guy's car. Now if the guy was cruzin' in an Escalade with 26" gold plated spinners and huge LCD screens in it, with a 1000 watt stereo system, yeah, that would be an image of success, New York style. He'd be ridin' dirty...

12 posted on 04/30/2008 11:55:54 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: neverdem

If the taxpayers were footing the bill, I’d wouldn’t drive I’d fly.

A nice Gulfstream G-550. And a steal at only $40 million give or take a few hundred thousand for customization.

http://www.gulfstream.com/g550/


13 posted on 05/01/2008 12:02:56 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: neverdem
You've got to be kidding! WE are paying for automobiles, Lincolns, BMW's and Cadillacs for these, under NORMAL circumstances, ne’er do wells!! I think they all deserve roller skates.

It would have been a nice touch if the list had mentioned to which party each of these guys belonged.

Yes, Charlie needs his Cadillac in order to “appear successful”. Nothing else about him conveys that message!

14 posted on 05/01/2008 12:03:04 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: neverdem
I would drive this!


15 posted on 05/01/2008 12:09:39 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
If the taxpayers were footing the bill, I’d wouldn’t drive I’d fly.

From the story which didn't say so explicitly, I got the impression that the vehicles were used by he Representatives just to tool around their districts.

16 posted on 05/01/2008 12:16:07 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Schnucki
I'd prefer something like this...
17 posted on 05/01/2008 12:19:22 AM PDT by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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To: neverdem

Nothing. I can’t drive :-(


18 posted on 05/01/2008 12:23:35 AM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: neverdem

Egads, more and more I feel like I’m in Russia and these people are in the Kremlin.


19 posted on 05/01/2008 12:26:45 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: neverdem

Rangel = shitheel dirtbag bum. loudmouthed moron. Need I add, I’m not one of his supporters?


20 posted on 05/01/2008 12:27:36 AM PDT by Octar
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To: Lusis

I just saw something like that today - but in a convertible!! Was still in its black primer with a miss-aligned door, but a nice interior (including the fuzzy dice from the mirror!).


21 posted on 05/01/2008 12:38:09 AM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: neverdem
A Mitsubisi-Fuso FG, stake bed with dump and PTO winch.

1994 MITSUBISHI FUSO FE639

14,000# GVW, 1 Ton 4X4 cab-over, with dual PTOs, Jake brake, and industrial reliability. 15-17mpg 4cyl turbo-diesel. It's slow, but indestructible.

Me want one.

22 posted on 05/01/2008 1:03:23 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: surrender, kill them, or die.)
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To: neverdem

A 16 valve VW Scirocco.


23 posted on 05/01/2008 1:10:55 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: singfreedom

he can’t even hold his own umbrella..raining in that pic..taxpayers paying for the umbrella holder too! Hmmm, how can the government stop wasteful spending, I just don’t know....


24 posted on 05/01/2008 1:21:48 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: neverdem
That New York Times is a two-bit provincial Mickey Mouse operation. How could they have not included this?

Ganked CA Senator's dubbed-out Charger on eBay

Posted Feb 22nd 2008 2:04PM by Alex Nunez Filed under: Aftermarket, Sedans/Saloons, Auction Action, Dodge

You may remember the December story involving 62-year-old California State Senate President Pro Tem, Don Perata (D - DUB City Oakland), who got his name in the paper after being jacked at gunpoint for his red 2006 Dodge Charger R/T. Of great amusement to everyone was the news that the Senator apparently rolled with mad flavor. His state-owned HEMI Charger, you see, was fitted with a set of 22" Panther wheels that are straight blingin'. So incongruous was the mental image of Perata rolling on deuce deuces that the police officer taking the carjacking call had to confirm what he'd heard, asking, "We're talking about the suspect's car or the senator's car?"

Anyway, the Senator came through the incident unscathed and the Dodge was later recovered, dubs intact. Good thing, too, because that very car is up for grabs on eBay. You can now rock the party like Don Perata once did. Beyond the flying saucers sitting in the wheel wells, the Charger is stock, with the 5.7L HEMI and full Tupperware/faux wood interior. There are no bids yet, but a "Buy It Now" figure of $24,500 beckons aspiring players. As for the Senator, we wonder what the state has obtained for him this time around. Seeing as he's now shed his 22" training wheels and is ready step things up a level, perhaps Big Don will have the taxpayers set him up with something like this. It seems like it might suit his tastes.


25 posted on 05/01/2008 1:24:57 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: neverdem
Good deal. Get elected to congress and never reach into your own pocket again.

All hail the Oligarchs!

26 posted on 05/01/2008 1:26:32 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: neverdem

27 posted on 05/01/2008 1:39:40 AM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
They should all be given used Yugos and “Le Cars.”

Allow me to correct you, they shouldn't be given any cars, they should buy their own, or lease their own, just as the hardworking tax payers who are being ripped to provide these crooks in politicians clothing with cars, have to do!

28 posted on 05/01/2008 2:01:16 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

Actually, those could be given in lieu of salary. They’re worth about $20 and $25 each (presuming they still have working radios).


29 posted on 05/01/2008 2:31:05 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Froufrou

bling ping!


30 posted on 05/01/2008 2:38:03 AM PDT by DeLaine (The point is we shouldn't have to argue with crazy people..... Jonah Goldberg)
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To: neverdem
What would I drive if the taxpayers paid?

This is an easy question to answer. I'd bet better political mileage from driving my own car. Certainly my salary would be able to cover a car payment and maintenance. It would be too much of a headache trying to constantly explain my choice of a taxpayer-funded car to my opponents and constituents. Best to just pay for it myself.

31 posted on 05/01/2008 2:56:05 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: tina07
I noticed that too, Tina. It was probably one of his security detail-—and, yes, we pay for that as well!!
32 posted on 05/01/2008 2:58:18 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: neverdem
I would help the fine citizens of Bowling Green, Kentucky by purchasing a Corvette ZO6.


33 posted on 05/01/2008 3:01:07 AM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: neverdem

34 posted on 05/01/2008 3:02:12 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: neverdem

35 posted on 05/01/2008 3:12:57 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: neverdem

Z06 without even thinking about it.

36 posted on 05/01/2008 3:16:59 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: JillValentine

(Grin)

“Concord tower, helicopter X-Ray Quebec Charlie requests clearance for straight out departure southeast.”


37 posted on 05/01/2008 3:18:07 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: neverdem

Another day another slap in the face for taxpayers.


38 posted on 05/01/2008 3:21:32 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: ovrtaxt
No, now I really am starting to think about it...


39 posted on 05/01/2008 3:22:43 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we’re still retarded.)
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To: neverdem
Interesting how the Times forgot to put a (D) or an (R) next to the names of the representatives on their little chart.

Also, I like the sentence in the article “In 2007, the House adopted a rule requiring members to choose cars from a list of low-emissions vehicles approved by the Environmental Protection Agency.” ... who controlled Congress in 2007 hummmmmmmm ... could it be the RATS! Why those hypocrites!

40 posted on 05/01/2008 3:22:50 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: neb52
"...I would probably drive or ride in a SUV. Something like a Tahoe or Expedition. Something that four or more people can roll in..."

SUVs famously roll over Interstate guardrails. Shouldn't that be rephrased a bit?

==8-O

41 posted on 05/01/2008 3:23:58 AM PDT by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: neverdem

42 posted on 05/01/2008 3:30:08 AM PDT by DemforBush
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To: Does so

“”...I would probably drive or ride in a SUV. Something like a Tahoe or Expedition. Something that four or more people can roll in...”

SUVs famously roll over Interstate guardrails. Shouldn’t that be rephrased a bit?

==8-O”

Are you being sarcastic? No SUVs don’t roll over anymore than any other car I have seen. Do you not know the term “rolling with my homies”?


43 posted on 05/01/2008 3:36:36 AM PDT by neb52
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To: neverdem

44 posted on 05/01/2008 3:39:46 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: skr
Businessmen need to look successful. Government officials don’t.

I'd like someone to point to the section of the US Constitution that says we taxpayers are supposed to pay for the automobiles of members of Congress. Taxpayers sure didn't pay for horses and buggies for congresscritters back in the day.

This nation is trillions of dollars in debt, and that figure is growing daily. Meanwhile, these clowns continue to spend money like there is no end.

Everybody should think about that the next time they start talking about raising taxes, like Hillary or Obama in their stump speeches they are giving daily......

45 posted on 05/01/2008 3:54:40 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: neb52

“Especially Congressman and Senators. President is one thing, but I think the Government should just buy a fleet of Tahoes one year and then after three years buy a fleet of Expeditions. Nothing fancy just mid range models. Should get a decent discount on quantity orders.”

They don’t even rate that, maybe when they actually start doing something useful and FIX something.

Until then, a fleet of leased vans to take them to and from home to the office should be FINE, just like the ones millions of Americans have to ride in.

Heck, I’d even allow them to get a discounted bus pass, but that’s it.


46 posted on 05/01/2008 3:58:31 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: neverdem

Stayed in a motel in Northern Michigan last week, and that motel just happened to be hosting some convention for state bureaucrats.

The parking lot was packed with brand new SUVs and pick-ups, bearing the logos for the Department of Natural Resources and the Department of Transportation.

Government by pigs, for pigs and of pigs.


47 posted on 05/01/2008 4:11:48 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: neverdem
I would be driving this: GT 500KR
48 posted on 05/01/2008 4:16:16 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: sergeantdave

These Pig Articles make me very angry. Friggin’ Government needs a big overhaul with a lot of B-Crats swinging from the oaks! L&L time.


49 posted on 05/01/2008 4:18:15 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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They forgot to mention that those tax payer paid for cars are also drive by a chauffeur also paid for by Uncle Sam.


50 posted on 05/01/2008 4:21:06 AM PDT by ktime
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