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Bear mauling victim admits he shot the bear dead
Bozeman Daily Chronicle ^ | 30 April, 2008 | SCOTT McMILLION

Posted on 04/30/2008 7:31:32 PM PDT by marktwain

LIVINGSTON - Bob Johnson, the mountain man mauled by a grizzly bear last week, has decided to tell the rest of the story.

He shot the bear dead, he said Wednesday, plugging it with a .41-caliber Magnum pistol after it had mauled him once and was returning for a second attack.

Johnson, 55, maintained last week that the details of the attack were hazy. On Wednesday, he said he had been reluctant to tell the whole story because of legal concerns.

He was convicted of a federal poaching charge in the early 1980s and was unsure if carrying a handgun would land him in trouble.

"I was scared of going to jail," he said Wednesday.

After conferring with a lawyer and his doctor, he said he decided to tell the Chronicle the whole story.

The incident began last Wednesday as Johnson was walking quietly in the Soldier Creek drainage of the Gallatin Range, in Tom Miner Basin north of Yellowstone National Park.

He said he was walking slowly, looking for petrified wood specimens.

"I smelled bear," he said. "But that ain't nothing new. Then I took about five steps and got hit somehow."

He said he probably awakened the bear from its daybed.

He said he fought hard with the bear and grabbed its nose with both hands, trying to protect his eyes.

During the battle, the grizzly ripped off a big chunk of Johnson's scalp, scraped a wide groove of meat from beneath his right arm, and battered and scratched his torso. A small backpack probably helped him avoid further injury.

"I really fought," he said. "I fought hard."

After a while, the bear left him and moved some distance away. Johnson said he isn't sure how far the bear went.

"I'm mauled. What am I supposed to do? Get out a tape measure?"

He said last week there might have been a cub present, but now he isn't so sure.

"I don't know," he said. "I might have hallucinated it."

Then the bear attacked again, he said, moving incredibly fast, and that's when Johnson, still on his back, reached for the pistol he wore in a holster on his belt.

"I had my hand by my side," he said. "I pulled the gun and went boom. Tell me how fast that is."

The bullet struck the bear just below the snout and it collapsed immediately and almost landed on him, he said. Then he rose to his feet and put three more 240-grain slugs in it.

Johnson wrapped some of his wounds, then had what he estimated to be a 3- to 5-mile hike back to his truck, then a drive to the B-Bar Ranch, where he got help.

Doctors in Livingston needed 75 staples to reattach his scalp to his skull and lots of stitches to close his other wounds.

Still, Johnson insisted on leaving the hospital Friday. The staples were removed Wednesday.

Game Warden Randy Wuertz said Wednesday he will have to investigate the scene. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service likely will investigate as well.

"I'm sure they're not going to do anything to him for carrying a handgun," he said.

Killing a grizzly bear, which is protected as a threatened species, is illegal unless it is in self defense.

"I should've been paying more attention," said Johnson, a burly man with an oversize beard, who often spends weeks at a time alone in the mountains. "I usually do."

But he doesn't regret defending himself.

"He wasn't feeling too sorry for me, either," he said of the grizzly. "I like some of them. But that one I didn't like. That one was trying to kill me."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Montana
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This is the article referencing the self defense shooting of the grizzly bear with a handgun. These are starting to become almost common. There will be more if we are allowed to legaly carry guns in the parks.
1 posted on 04/30/2008 7:31:32 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

If I killed a bear in a fight, I wouldn’t have to “admit” I won.


2 posted on 04/30/2008 7:34:54 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: marktwain

Better to be tried by 11 than carried by 6.

There is no way -for instance - that I would ever again hike in Glacier National without being armed.


3 posted on 04/30/2008 7:35:59 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: marktwain

Two differant bear attacks one person can defend himself the other one can’t because he was in Yellowstone park.


4 posted on 04/30/2008 7:36:07 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: marktwain
He'll get second degree bear-slaughter at the most.
5 posted on 04/30/2008 7:39:14 PM PDT by jpf
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To: marktwain
He said he was walking slowly, looking for petrified wood specimens.

That also is illegal, does this man not know you are not allowed to steal out of a public park.

6 posted on 04/30/2008 7:39:30 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: marktwain

I can identify with the general area. I have been fly fishing on the Gallatin River and have picked up some of the petrified wood myself. In fact South of there my brother and I were chased by a Moose in the upper reaches of the Gallatin River while fly fishing. Luckily we never saw a grizzly in that area.


7 posted on 04/30/2008 7:40:28 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: marktwain

Can you kill a grizzly with a handgun? A grizzly would grab the handgun and eat it.


8 posted on 04/30/2008 7:42:43 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: marktwain

Guess he has the self defense angle covered.


9 posted on 04/30/2008 7:42:46 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

That’s right. A bear mauls me or a member of my party, the end of that story is going to be “...you’re damn right I shot and killed it!”


10 posted on 04/30/2008 7:44:36 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: org.whodat
That also is illegal, does this man not know you are not allowed to steal out of a public park.

I'm not sure he was taking the petrified wood from the park. Does anyone just go find petrified wood to look at it as a hobby? I'm not from that part of the country, I've never heard of it actually.

11 posted on 04/30/2008 7:47:27 PM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
I will bet the trades that little Pi** water 41 caliber in for a real piston a 44 Special at least.
12 posted on 04/30/2008 7:49:43 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Alouette
Yep, my brother killed a 4 year old Alaskan brown bear with a 9 mm pistol in self defense.
13 posted on 04/30/2008 7:50:45 PM PDT by tongass kid
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To: Alouette

With a .41 mag, yes. I wouldn’t want to depend on a 9mm against one, though.


14 posted on 04/30/2008 7:51:15 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Vote McCain - The Choice who Sucks Less!)
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To: marktwain

Anybody who walks away from a grizzly fight has my respect.


15 posted on 04/30/2008 7:51:35 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: kanawa

Bear-killin’ ping.


16 posted on 04/30/2008 7:53:32 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Vote McCain - The Choice who Sucks Less!)
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To: Alouette
“Can you kill a grizzly with a handgun? A grizzly would grab the handgun and eat it.”

So many beleive. Fortunately, the idea that a handgun is ineffective against a grizzly has been disproved many times. It would not be the weapon of choice, but if it is what you have, it can do the job.
17 posted on 04/30/2008 7:54:07 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; kingattax
"I should've been paying more attention," said Johnson, a burly man with an oversize beard, who often spends weeks at a time alone in the mountains.

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18 posted on 04/30/2008 7:55:14 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Damifino
If you believe he was looking as a hobby I have a good tip on some bridge stock.

A man got caught moving water bed rock up on the blue ridge parkway, thought it looked good around his house. After he put it all back like he found it, and the replacement inspection was passed,he and his fines were paid I don't know if he still had a house.

19 posted on 04/30/2008 7:56:05 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: tongass kid

“Yep, my brother killed a 4 year old Alaskan brown bear with a 9 mm pistol in self defense. “


Good for him. Congrats.


20 posted on 04/30/2008 7:56:19 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: riverrunner

But, but - we’re invading their homes in the woods! Don’t you people watch Disney? Can’t we all just get along and love God’s fluffy and gentle critters? [Ah, for the good old days when every man and boy carried a rifle, and the sight of us struck terror in their dim brains.]

A reminder: “When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.” - Jacobson


21 posted on 04/30/2008 7:58:36 PM PDT by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: org.whodat

“If you believe he was looking as a hobby I have a good tip on some bridge stock.”


This was not in the park. I don’t think it is illegal to rock hound on BLM or national forest land.... yet.


22 posted on 04/30/2008 7:58:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

You know, some say there’s a bear in these woods...

(if you don’t know what I’m talking about, go and stand in the corner)


23 posted on 04/30/2008 7:59:54 PM PDT by ClaudiusI
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To: Alouette

Check out the real story of “Grizzly Adams”, he use a Colt and finished the bears with a Bowie Knife.


24 posted on 04/30/2008 8:00:57 PM PDT by razorback-bert (If yer gunna regret this in the mornin, we kin sleep til afternoon.)
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To: org.whodat
If you believe he was looking as a hobby

Does it have value to sell?

25 posted on 04/30/2008 8:03:28 PM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: marktwain
The pistol was an old German gun. My brother eventually sold it because he did not like the reminder of a bear attack.
26 posted on 04/30/2008 8:09:39 PM PDT by tongass kid
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To: marktwain
In other news...
27 posted on 04/30/2008 8:10:49 PM PDT by rabidralph (The Clintons managed to make $109M during Pres. Bush's "failed" economy.)
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To: org.whodat

I believe him.

I myself collect petrified wood as well as many other rocks. We do it at mines, private land, forest service land where allowed, etc. I collected petrified wood on my own land in Texas.

Not everyone is a criminal up to something. Many of your posts seem to give the impression that you think everyone is.


28 posted on 04/30/2008 8:14:35 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: marktwain
He was convicted of a federal poaching charge in the early 1980s and was unsure if carrying a handgun would land him in trouble.

Depends on if the crime of poaching is a felony, punishable by more than one year in prison. If so, he's in deep doo-doo when the BATFE gets wind of this "felon in possession". But if, as I suspect, it's a misdemeanor, then he's ok. I did find one reference for someone getting a year for poaching, but couldn't find the actual allowable punishment.

29 posted on 04/30/2008 8:14:50 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: marktwain

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-12-12-park-looters_x.htm


30 posted on 04/30/2008 8:15:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: marktwain

Isn’t the law truly screwed up when a person has to choose beteen protecting his life and obeying the law?


31 posted on 04/30/2008 8:20:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: bill1952

Well, if they throw him in prison one thing’s for sure - nobody’s gonna mess with him.


32 posted on 04/30/2008 8:22:26 PM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: taraytarah

LOL!!


33 posted on 04/30/2008 8:26:03 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: AlmaKing
Many of your posts seem to give the impression that you think everyone is.

That is silly, you can take anything you want off of your own property, but if you take it from public land you are stealing from me.

34 posted on 04/30/2008 8:26:03 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: marktwain
S&W has a gun for the job, .50 Caliber. Griz Killer


35 posted on 04/30/2008 8:43:31 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

.50 CAL HANDGUN??!!! I would have to hold that monster with both arms ... and both feet.


36 posted on 04/30/2008 8:48:11 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: marktwain

Clean shoot as far as I’m concerned.


37 posted on 04/30/2008 9:06:03 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole; LiberConservative

That S&W .50 could probably be had for less than a Desert Eagle.


38 posted on 04/30/2008 9:10:29 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: LiberConservative
I have only witnessed someone shooting one on the range — yeah, hang on .... very impressive.
39 posted on 04/30/2008 9:13:51 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite)
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To: marktwain

First Griz I ever saw in the wild was at Glacier; more precisely, at a trail near Logan Pass. I had...a stick. It wasn’t a good feeling, although it felt great to be able to talk about it afterwards having not been eaten. I’d never hunt a bear with my .41 magnum but if he were hunting me I’m thinking it would be one heckuva lot better than a stick.


40 posted on 04/30/2008 9:21:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: org.whodat

You are allowed to take rocks and petrified wood from certain public lands without permits. Different lands (ie. BLM vs. USFS) have slightly different regs. for quantity & size. Larger quantities require permits and may actually be harvested for commercial use.

If as a child 50 years ago, you lost a toy in the USFS and found it today, it is no longer yours and you can’t pick it up. Lots of regs out there.


41 posted on 04/30/2008 9:21:59 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: org.whodat
That also is illegal,

It isn't illegal to look for petrified wood. It's illegal to remove petrified wood.

Here in Washington state, you can metal detect in the national forests, but you can't dig a hole to investigate a signal.

42 posted on 04/30/2008 9:34:45 PM PDT by poindexter
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To: org.whodat
"...does this man not know you are not allowed to steal out of a public park?"

I'm guessing he probably does.

Do you know how to read an article fully?

I'm guessing again.....no?

43 posted on 04/30/2008 9:37:47 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: poindexter

Not illegal to remove petrified wood from some public lands. Check the regs before you harvest.


44 posted on 04/30/2008 9:43:18 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Alouette
Can you kill a grizzly with a handgun? A grizzly would grab the handgun and eat it.

That is a topic of debate out west and in places like where this story took place. It is possible to do it. You have to have the right load, have presence of mind in a crisis and know where to shoot.

This fellow Johnson is one tough son-of-a gun. He shot from laying on the ground into just under the bear's snout. Picture that shot. It goes into the mouth of the bear and hits him in the roof of the mouth, puncturing his skull and hitting the brain. A bear's skull is very thick and has been known to deflect bullets. The roof of the mouth is the thinest part of a bear's skull. It is his kill zone but darned hard to hit. This man Johnson knew what he was doing and was a cool shot in a very, very tough situation.

That area is well know for its petrified wood. There are whole stumps of it there. Some of it is in the YN Park and some is not. In that Montana FWP is involved in the investigation I suspect that he was not on Park land when this happened. Anyone hiking in that area is wise to hike armed with the right load.
45 posted on 04/30/2008 9:58:27 PM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: BooBoo1000
I will bet the trades that little Pi** water 41 caliber in for a real piston a 44 Special at least.

A .41 Remington Magnum is much more powerful than a .44 Special.

46 posted on 04/30/2008 10:10:34 PM PDT by BikerTrash
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To: BikerTrash

Glad he shot the bear and killed it.

That being said, one thing might be better to carry up there. Bear Spray.

Even if you don’t hit it in the face the fumes are overpowering. From what I understand no one using bear spray has been killed by a bear.


47 posted on 04/30/2008 10:19:12 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: JSteff

I’ve heard it works well on black bears but not grizzly...but I have no personal experience.


48 posted on 04/30/2008 10:26:44 PM PDT by BikerTrash
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

The only place grizzlies should be is in a zoo where the tree- huggers can feed them.


49 posted on 04/30/2008 10:57:21 PM PDT by pankot
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To: diogenes ghost
I'm guessing again.....no?

What part of illegal do you not understand.

50 posted on 05/01/2008 4:15:01 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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