Posted on 04/29/2008 8:04:52 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
Imagine a world without men: Lauren Bacall but no Bogie, Hillary Clinton but no Bill, no Starsky or Hutch.
This isn't just an unlikely sci-fi scenario. This could be reality, according to Bryan Sykes, an eminent professor of genetics at Oxford University and author of "Adam's Curse: A Future Without Men."
"The Y chromosome is deteriorating and will, in my belief, disappear," Sykes told me. A world-renowned authority on genetic material, Sykes is called upon to investigate DNA evidence from crime scenes. His team of researchers is currently compiling a DNA family tree for our species.
Y Chromosome 'Fatally Flawed'
The Y chromosome is passed from father to son, it's what makes babies into boys. Basically the human template is a female: the Y chromosome kicks in a few weeks after conception and makes a boy. "Men are genetically modified women," explained Sykes. But unlike other chromosomes, the Y chromosome can't repair itself and will, says Sykes, disappear altogether in about 125,000 years.
"Every generation one percent of men will have a mutation which reduces their fertility by 10 percent," explained Sykes. Unlike most chromosomes, the Y does not travel through the generation in pairs, so can never repair itself from a mirror. Flaws are never repaired. "So if that goes on for generation after generation," Sykes argued, "eventually there are no functioning Y chromosomes left."
So no more men … sparsely populated sports bars, Ferrari would lose the lion's share of its business, and Hooters would probably go out of business.
It's a long time, 125,000 years. But we men have a far more immediate problem: sperm counts have fallen by an incredible 20 percent in the past 50 years. Stress? Alcohol? Environmental pollution? Who knows, but it's deeply concerning for those of us with a vested interest in the survival of the male.
Sykes has received hate mail. "To seem to be saying that men will become extinct, which is what I am saying," he mused. "I've had all kinds of messages from male groups saying, 'how can you betray your gender?'"
But would the absence of men make the world a better place? There would be far fewer wars without men on the planet, and the U.S. prison population would drop a colossal 97 percent. Road deaths in the U.S. would fall 70 percent. The Olympics would be half as long, which some people might view as a good thing.
Female-Only Reproduction
But surely, flawed Y chromosome or not, bad behavior or not, we are needed for procreation. Women can't have babies without us … right? I'm afraid, pretty soon they won't need our sperm, our chromosomes, our anything.
Until now, female-only reproduction has been limited to the plant and animal kingdom. So-called parthenogenesis, observed in the Cape Honey Bee, the Kimono Dragon and the hammerhead shark. In humans: confined to 1950s B movies. But Sykes says the technology for women to procreate without us is just around the corner.
"Within the next few years you will get two women having a child who is the biological child of both of them," Sykes said. "And entirely normal in every respect, but always female."
They've already done it with mice. Two mothers: the genetic material from one used to fertilize the egg of the other.
Two Mommies
The picture that Professor Sykes is painting is of a nuclear family without a man in sight. We went in search of what could be the template for the survival of our species. Laura and Natalie are a lovely couple who live in South London with their 13-month-old daughter Sanne. They agreed to let our all-male crew take a peek into their lives. Natalie actually gave birth to Sanne. The sperm came from an anonymous donor. She's raised by two moms.
"That the child will be well balanced with just two moms: Well, that's been proven back in the 40s," explained Natalie, who is also a child psychologist. "It's the care giving and the relationship between the care-giver and the infant that is the important part."
Laura, who right now is the bread winner, thinks any family will work as long as the child is, "getting the attention, the affection, the discipline." Looking at her very contented daughter, Laura told me, "She's obviously confident. She's very stable and secure. So I think so far we're doing okay."
Laura attended both the dads' and the moms' prenatal classes. I asked Natalie if having Laura as the partner was better than having a man? "I had actually a couple of mothers saying, 'Well, at least Laura's a woman she will understand better.'" Natalie told me. "And I said, 'no.' … She was exactly the same as the dads!"
Could Laura mount a defense? "I would like to think that I separate from the dads in that I'm not hooked on the ball games and things like that," she explained. And I must say, she was knee-deep in diaper changing and feeding time while we were hanging out.
So judging by this family, two moms aren't necessarily better, but can be just as good. But surely they must need a burly man for some things? I offered to put up some shelves, or change some light bulbs. "Actually, Laura is very, very handy," Natalie told me, trying not to hurt my feelings.
"My father's a mechanic, so there's nothing about a car that disturbs me," explained Laura. "I've also … I renovated a house. So, I'm really not concerned about that either."
Maybe our only hope as men is that women decide to keep us alive for their own amusement. For the pop music, perhaps, or maybe the dancing. We can be good at that.
Try it worldwide and see how you fare.
“A world without men” ping.
How are they going to decide who does the digging and who holds the flag at those construction sites?
very little will get accomplished without people with stones.
The Feminazis still pondering about gendercide, I see.
Cool. Toward the end just think of the benefits men can accrue under endangered minority status.
Imagine how the world will look when the trash is NEVER taken out, the lawn NEVER gets mowed, the oil is NEVER changed and shopping is considered a PROFESSION.
This B.S. has been repeatedly debunked.
The Y chromosome (or iternations of it) have been around sicne the dawn of male/female sexes in animals.
The Y chromosome, also, unlike other chromosomes, has copies of itself on itself, and repairs itself.
A female analog is the mitochondria, which similarly is asexual it its DNA replication.
It’s just lesbian wishful thinking.
“Could Laura mount a defense? “
I mounted a fense once, or is that too much information.
“Every generation one percent of men will have a mutation which reduces their fertility by 10 percent,” explained Sykes. Unlike most chromosomes, the Y does not travel through the generation in pairs, so can never repair itself from a mirror. Flaws are never repaired. “So if that goes on for generation after generation,” Sykes argued, “eventually there are no functioning Y chromosomes left.”
Nonsense. Back-mutation is a form of repair and selection will naturally ensure that the fertile males who reproduce will pass on the functioning Y chromosome.
What was the old commercial, “There is an unlimited supply of Bud Light, and we are the only men here, and we can never leave......We can live with that.”
So, that will just leave females and gays?
(grin)
This thread is begging for pictures of women.
Any credibility I had given this scribbler went out the window with “Kimono Dragon”, and its editor needs a kick in the posterior as well.
“Men are genetically modified women”
No, man came first then woman, so that is backwards.
[Killing spiders, investigating strange noises in the night, parallel parking...what did you think I meant?]
There was a movies about that........
More like females, liberals, and RINOs...
written like a true mommy coddled cakeboy....
this notion women are more peace loving will come as quite a shock to the 50 million babies murdered by their mommies since Roe in the US alone....try stacking that up against worldwide war casualties in the same period for example.
and ...this may come as a shock but there are a lot of women out there who like being women, having babies, being loved and provided for and being free to raise the kids.....and having toe curling, gasping, multiple orgasms sex and prefer that with a man. Period.
This sorta drivel appeals to the Andrea Dworkins of our culture who can't get a man anyhow.
"WHAT YOU SAY?!!!"
I once mounted a parked car. Least I think it was a car. Too much whiskey.
I do not have to envision a world without men. Such a world is real. A world without men is named both the Democrat Party and the cable network PMSNBC.
At least they got this part right. Without those pesky men around to do the dirty work of constructing and repairing all those roads*, they'll fall into disrepair and no one will be driving on them at all.
*: And building the automobiles, and fixing the automobiles, and working on oil rigs in storm-lashed oceans and baking-hot deserts to get the gasoline to make cars run, and working the dull graveyard shifts in the gas stations, and designing the traffic lights that ensure smooth traffic flow, etc., etc., etc.
“The Y chromosome is deteriorating and will, in my belief, disappear,”
Why?
What a sickening thought.
What a bunch of liberal, lesbo, feminazi bullcr@p.
Dang, are you ever fast with that Photoshop, dude!
Two generations of no exterminators or boys performing “experiments” will mean humanity overwhelmed by bugs, mice, and other assorted “icky” vermin.
“very little will get accomplished without people with stones.”
That explains the mess that is our government.
Envisioning a World Without Men
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No thank you. I LIKE men.
Just think girls; only 125,000 years to go!
And getting tight lids off of jars. Don't forget that one. ;-)
“How are they going to decide who does the digging and who holds the flag at those construction sites?”
Or, who will kill that oh-so-scary (but actually quite harmless) snake in the back yard?
No Men in 125,000 years, huh? I wonder if Hillary can remain politically viable that long?
And who will defend these new feminists against jihadis with guns who will not follow this practice, but do practice polygamy?
Just imagine how noisy the world will be with nobody to step on spiders!
Fixed yer typoz.
;^D
Note the article as mentions that human parthenogenesis requires technological assistance. Consider what happens if another plague wipes out the remaining "technologists" required to achieve reproduction by parthenogenesis. The old "low tech" method is gone and we die as a species.
This is a geneticist? If 1 percent of men have 10 percent less fertility in a given generation, they'll be fathering 10 percent fewer of the children of the next generation—by definition. That means those without the "less-fertile" mutation will father a 1-percent-times-10-percent greater proportion of the next generation's children. Generation after generation, the ratio of men with the fertility problem will stay the same.
It's the same logic that tells you that you can't pass along your infertility to your kids.
Idiot.
"Men are genetically modified women,"
Ah-ha!
That explains Rooty's penchant for wearing women's clothes. His Y Chromosome is screwed up.
(and most of his brain, and moral compass)
Don’t you know that that’s why men have nipples?
In reply: Imagine how the world will look when the trash is NEVER taken out, the lawn NEVER gets mowed, the oil is NEVER changed and shopping is considered a PROFESSION.
Oh perfect, keep the economy running!
But seriously, how much longer do we really have on this earth. This is not part of the master plan.
In reply: Imagine how the world will look when the trash is NEVER taken out, the lawn NEVER gets mowed, the oil is NEVER changed and shopping is considered a PROFESSION.
Oh perfect, keep the economy running!
But seriously, how much longer do we really have on this earth. This is not part of the master plan.
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