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MA: Police Get Black Uniforms to Instill Sense of 'Fear'
Fox News/AP ^ | 4/24/08 | n/a

Posted on 04/28/2008 9:40:26 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Springfield's men in black are returning.

The city's new police commissioner, William Fitchet, says members of the department's Street Crime Unit will again don black, military-style uniforms as part of his strategy to deal with youth violence.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: banglist; crimecorruption; leo; police; uniform
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1 posted on 04/28/2008 9:40:28 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

What needs to instill a sense of fear is the judicial system. The thugs know that the cops can dress whatever way they want - but they still won’t shoot - and that in any case, when the thugs get before the judge, they’ll still be let off with a wink and a nod.


2 posted on 04/28/2008 9:44:32 AM PDT by livius
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To: kiriath_jearim

So we are supposed to fear the police?Not a good way to foster cooperation with the community.


3 posted on 04/28/2008 9:44:40 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: kiriath_jearim
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4 posted on 04/28/2008 9:46:08 AM PDT by Sax
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To: kiriath_jearim

Andy Taylor was the perfect cop. Respected by all, and only feared by those who really needed their butts kicked.

And then he put those size twelves to good use.


5 posted on 04/28/2008 9:47:05 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The republic is over kids!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Re: MA: Police Get Black Uniforms to Instill Sense of 'Fear'

Does Rev Wright... know about this?

6 posted on 04/28/2008 9:47:07 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Delaney said a sense of "fear" has been missing for the past few years.

Fear in the criminals or in the citizens? I dare say the latter. Criminals aren't scared of stark uniforms, but citizens will be.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." (Thomas Jefferson)

7 posted on 04/28/2008 9:47:13 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Republican...because not everyone can be on welfare.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Not a good way to foster cooperation with the community.

They probably figure it's a lost cause so why not go all the way in the other direction?

8 posted on 04/28/2008 9:47:33 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The secret of Life is letting go. The secret of Love is letting it show.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Fear != Respect


9 posted on 04/28/2008 9:48:03 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: kiriath_jearim

And these people wonder why the general population does not trust them anymore. The youth of today will not go to a police officer for help anymore, because they are afraid of them, my six year old grand daughter included. They scared her out of her wits about a year ago at a traffic stop.

To many Rambo wannabes out there.


10 posted on 04/28/2008 9:50:47 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Domandred
They should wear Orange Tuxedos so they look like Waiters and instill a sense of camaraderie.
11 posted on 04/28/2008 9:52:09 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Roklok
And these people wonder why the general population does not trust them anymore.

I think asset forfeitures have contributed to that. It has turned public perception of the police from "peace officers" to "bounty hunters". Apparently they think they're getting enough money out of the forfeitures that it's worth it.

12 posted on 04/28/2008 9:54:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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13 posted on 04/28/2008 10:00:37 AM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: kiriath_jearim
Police want to instill fear in the population to make them more compliant.

What other groups uses fear to force changes in their targets?

The Mafia? Yep.

Terrorists? Yes again.

Totalitarians? And once more, bingo.

Sounds like the Masstards are finally taking the wrapper off their shiny new police state.

14 posted on 04/28/2008 10:01:37 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Collar pins to include a skull on one side and two lighting bolts on the other.


15 posted on 04/28/2008 10:05:20 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: Roklok
The youth of today will not go to a police officer for help anymore, because they are afraid of them, my six year old grand daughter included. They scared her out of her wits about a year ago at a traffic stop.

It's not just the youths out there, they scare the crap out of me as well.
16 posted on 04/28/2008 10:05:50 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Won’t black uniforms show the powdered sugar from donuts?


17 posted on 04/28/2008 10:13:30 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Farmer Dean
"So we are supposed to fear the police?Not a good way to foster cooperation with the community."

Springfield is a depressed area with lots of gang/drug crime. I have to go into some of the worst neighborhoods there, and IMO, it's worse than any of the rough neighborhoods in Boston.

That said, I don't know that these black uniforms will be the answer. How about just cracking down on the hoods?

18 posted on 04/28/2008 10:13:40 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: kiriath_jearim

“Since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved.”

Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

And it’s easy as well, since fear can be commanded, whereas respect needs to be earned.


19 posted on 04/28/2008 10:18:48 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: 6SJ7

LOL!


20 posted on 04/28/2008 10:19:04 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Police are not the military.

Military are not the police.

End of story.


21 posted on 04/28/2008 10:24:07 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Act Swiftly Awesome Pachyderm!)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

My first thought as well. If I weren’t headed out the door, I would have found a pic and posted it.


22 posted on 04/28/2008 10:26:41 AM PDT by radiohead (I stood up for Fred at the Iowa Caucus. Where were the rest of you so-called conservatives?)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Springfield's men in black are returning.

Another one of Mayor Quimby's bright ideas?

23 posted on 04/28/2008 10:28:30 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: kiriath_jearim

Why not go all the way and choose brown shirts?


24 posted on 04/28/2008 10:30:21 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Agreed, however some of them didn’t get the memo.


25 posted on 04/28/2008 10:32:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Now they’re all going to be JBTs.

Don’t they know black isn’t good at night?


26 posted on 04/28/2008 10:34:06 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

That sounds positively fascist.


27 posted on 04/28/2008 10:36:42 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: livius

Exactly.


28 posted on 04/28/2008 10:36:52 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: kiriath_jearim

That sounds positively fascist.


29 posted on 04/28/2008 10:37:22 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: kiriath_jearim

That sounds positively fascist.


30 posted on 04/28/2008 10:40:03 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Farmer Dean
So we are supposed to fear the police?

Isn't that their motto? "To molest and unnerve."

31 posted on 04/28/2008 10:40:35 AM PDT by gundog (John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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To: rabscuttle385
There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand

32 posted on 04/28/2008 10:44:17 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: processing please hold

***That sounds positively fascist.***

Deserving of a third bump.

Lol


33 posted on 04/28/2008 10:44:25 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: gundog

“To Punish And Enslave”

Found on Barricade from Transformers.


34 posted on 04/28/2008 10:45:34 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Citizens who “fear” police is a very “bad” thing. What kind of idiot wants to achieve the goal of “fear”? What you will get is “fight or flight”, neither of which produces as much results as “trust and respect”. It gives you a 50/50 chance that it’ll be the cops getting hurt in the end.


35 posted on 04/28/2008 10:46:00 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: 6SJ7

Post of the day!


36 posted on 04/28/2008 10:46:56 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Sounds like they are trying to make up for some other inadequacy.


37 posted on 04/28/2008 10:51:35 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Death’s Head Devices on the caps? Siegrunes on the lapels?


38 posted on 04/28/2008 10:54:37 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: kiriath_jearim

That sounds positively fascist.


39 posted on 04/28/2008 10:54:54 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: School of Rational Thought
That's Ernst Rohm on the far left...


40 posted on 04/28/2008 10:55:57 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: Lancer_N3502A

Is that the insignia that the

Secular Socialists

will be wearing when they decide it’s safe to be open about their agenda?


41 posted on 04/28/2008 10:58:23 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: johnny7

They required to wear hats a size too small for their heads?


42 posted on 04/28/2008 10:59:16 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: kiriath_jearim
When the going gets tough, REAL men go for fashion. Add some white pancake makeup and heavy black eyeliner...very Goth.
43 posted on 04/28/2008 11:24:50 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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44 posted on 04/28/2008 11:57:01 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: wastedyears

Oh my. I only hit the post button once. Talk about the hiccup from h3ll.


45 posted on 04/28/2008 12:03:33 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold

Might want to check the sear pin in that mouse....


46 posted on 04/28/2008 12:08:54 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Does a laser mouse have a sear pin?


47 posted on 04/28/2008 12:37:08 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold

Or should that be lazer?


48 posted on 04/28/2008 12:39:22 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: kiriath_jearim

Would it be OK then to call them stormtroopers?


49 posted on 04/28/2008 12:47:55 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The city's new police commissioner, William Fitchet, says members of the department's Street Crime Unit will again don black, military-style uniforms as part of his strategy to deal with youth violence.

Huh SpringSheild didn't have black uniforms, and they were the Springfield LEOs able to close down Fat Touny's operation.

50 posted on 04/28/2008 6:42:21 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Holy State or Holy King - Or Holy People's Will - Have no truck with the senseless thing.)
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