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Gorbachev signed JP II KGB death warrant
thenews.pl ^ | 27.04.2008

Posted on 04/27/2008 12:28:00 PM PDT by lizol

Gorbachev signed JP II KGB death warrant

Created: 27.04.2008 15:50

The weekly Wprost, out tomorrow, shows a politburo document, signed by Mikhail Gorbachev, which appears to warrant a KGB contract killing on John Paul II.

So claims Polish journalist David Dastych in a book, also released tomorrow, Chodzi o papieża szpiedzy w watykanie - (About the Pope: Spies in the Vatican). The politburo document says: "Use all available possibilities to prevent a new political trend, initiated by the Polish pope…"

The document, which dates back to November 1979, - one year after Karol Wojtyla became pope - is signed by eight top Party officials including Konstantin Rusakov, who coordinated action with the Polish communist party, and Mikhail Gorbachev.

In Rome, Pope John Paul II survived four bullets on May 13, 1981 shot by Turk Mehmet Ali Hagca.

“If this information is true, Gorbachov should be brought to account,” said Zbigniew Chlebowski, head of the ruling Civic Platform’s parliamentary party.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; communism; gorbachev; johnpaulii; poland; pope; sovietunion

1 posted on 04/27/2008 12:28:00 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

It should be no suprise. Gorbachev was a hard core communist. He turned in fellow students at Moscow university in the 1950’s.


2 posted on 04/27/2008 12:29:46 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: lizol

That would’ve made a lot of countries want to bomb the Soviets.


3 posted on 04/27/2008 12:38:06 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

The surprise is in the extant document. Gotta be fake. (Where’s Dan Rather and Mary Mapes?) No politician would ever sign something so incriminating. No failing regime would ever let such evidence survive it.


4 posted on 04/27/2008 12:40:10 PM PDT by flowerplough (I suck at Photoshop)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Absolutely.


5 posted on 04/27/2008 1:15:10 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: flowerplough
> The surprise is in the extant document. Gotta be fake. (Where’s Dan Rather and Mary Mapes?) No politician would ever sign something so incriminating. No failing regime would ever let such evidence survive it.

Precisely. This is most likely a setup for some other more hidden purpose. In Russian, then and now, things are rarely what they seem on the surface.

6 posted on 04/27/2008 1:30:00 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; flowerplough
Oops, bad edit:
In Russian politics, then and now, things are rarely what they seem on the surface.

7 posted on 04/27/2008 1:31:34 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: lizol

Isn’t this already a Tom Clancy novel called “Red Rabbit”????


8 posted on 04/27/2008 1:40:29 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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shot by Turk Mehmet Ali Hagca(sic)

Mehmet Ali Ağca

9 posted on 04/27/2008 2:16:52 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: flowerplough
The surprise is in the extant document. Gotta be fake. (Where’s Dan Rather and Mary Mapes?) No politician would ever sign something so incriminating. No failing regime would ever let such evidence survive it.
That presumes that the possibility of the failure of the regime was admissible within the KGB. Which was I think emphatically not the case. I think that if you raised your head within the KGB and said, "but what happens if the USSR collapses?" you would have been taken to the dungeon below your what had been your office . . . and never seen again.

I would agree that the number of people who would have had a "need to know" would have been minimized. But I also think that by the time the possibility of the collapse of the USSR was admissible within the KGB then any KGB officer who might have been able to shred a document so damning to the KGB in general would have had more interest in shredding documents to cover his own behind than that of former General Secretary Gorbychev - who was by then considered a traitor within the KGB. Recall that Gorbychev had been arrested and deposed by then, and was saved by Yeltsin, who proceeded to outlaw the Communist Party of the USSR. A move at which Gorbychev blanched, but to which he had to acquiesce.

Such a document would not have been destroyed before that day - the question being, what happened within the offices of the KGB after that? I seem to recall a statue of the founder of the KGB being torn down in front of the central KGB office . . . what was going on inside at the time? And why would such a sensitive document have been kept under wraps until now, and yet come to light now. There must have been chaos inside that office on that day, of people thinking about their own backsides. Maybe someone thought of that document and hoped it might be a valuable thing to have, and possibly a get-out-of-jail card in the future.

Now if you told me that someone was peddling a copy of a copy of a copy of such a document, then I would really be suspicious . . .


10 posted on 04/28/2008 2:38:02 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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To: lizol; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
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11 posted on 04/28/2008 7:11:28 AM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

And he ordered the Vilnius massacre in 1991.


12 posted on 04/28/2008 7:14:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: dayglored

Only in Russia? Hardly.


13 posted on 04/28/2008 9:35:01 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: lizol
Good, and not a moment too soon. Not long ago Gorby was seen in Assisi offering reflections about St. Francis and giving out every impression that he found repentance: Mikhail Gorbachev admits he is a Christian. But when pressed, no signs of it were found: Gorbachev Dispels 'Closet Christian' Rumors; Says He is Atheist.

Lying bastard.

14 posted on 04/28/2008 11:11:38 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: lizol

So that’s why the liberals loved Gorbachev so much! Now it makes perfect sense.


15 posted on 04/28/2008 11:12:29 AM PDT by dbehsman (NRA Life Member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: lizol

I wouldn’t be surprised if this were true. The USSR ran on a mountain range of paper because everyone had to
CYA all the time. The KGB wouldn’t undertake an assassination of this calibre without the full list of names from the Politburo.


16 posted on 04/28/2008 12:15:15 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: lizol

I think you will find Gorby teaching at the University of Hawaii, Barack Obaba’s sperm donor’s alma mater. He’s the one with the wine stain that looks like the Philippines on his head.


17 posted on 04/28/2008 2:27:44 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: lizol

The association between Communism and its hired thugs — Islamic Jihadists — is crystal clear for any who care to see it.


18 posted on 04/28/2008 4:57:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("resort not to force until every just law be defied")
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To: Jaded
> Only in Russia? Hardly.

Oh, agreed; elsewhere as well. But certainly, in Russia.

19 posted on 04/28/2008 5:55:44 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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