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Think Ox Concept (Norwegian Electric Car)
blogs.cars.com ^ | 04/25/2008 | Staff

Posted on 04/25/2008 8:45:50 AM PDT by Red Badger

Think is a Norwegian company specializing in small electric vehicles. Its new concept, called Ox, looks to be a much more mainstream vehicle than any of the minicars the company sells overseas. Roughly the size of a Scion xB, the front-wheel-drive Ox MPV will have a 60-kW electric motor and a range of 124 miles on a full charge. It can be charged via a normal household outlet. Charging the car to 80% will take just an hour using a special charger, while a full charge will take 12 hours.

The company is planning to use either sodium or lithium-ion batteries, and there’s a strip of solar cells running down the center of the roof. The Ox is built on an interchangeable platform, so a coupe body style with a larger motor and batteries or a taxicab configuration could also be manufactured.

Unfortunately, the Ox looks to be a true concept, with no firm date on when we could expect to see it on the road. The other unfortunate part is that Think doesn’t have a presence in the U.S. General Electric recently invested $4 million into Think, though, so don’t give up hope of one day seeing the Ox on the street.

More photos AT LINK


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: auto; battery; electric; norway

This is actually what they will be shipping here.....

FROM THE BLOGS.CARS.COM ARTICLE:

The Norwegian company Think Global plans to ship 50,000 of its bite-sized electric cars to the U.S. The vehicles are all electric plug-ins that achieve a top speed of just 65 mph and cost $30,000.

Other than very basic urban driving, we have to call the utility of the Think Global electric car into question. At its size and speed, it would be obnoxious, if not dangerously undersized and slow, on any highway. Not to mention, if you're going to pay $30,000 for a green vehicle, you might as well wait two years and shell out another $5,000 for a Chevy Volt (at least, we hope two years and an extra $5,000 is all it will take).

Also keep in mind that, as with all plug-in vehicles, most of that energy is still coming directly from a coal-fired, carbon-dioxide-happy power plant. We do, however, like the Ox Concept that Think showed earlier this year. If they build that we’ll definitely take it for a test drive.

1 posted on 04/25/2008 8:45:50 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

The top one is CGI.


2 posted on 04/25/2008 8:48:59 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

CGI?......


3 posted on 04/25/2008 8:50:49 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

..and if you die in it, it serves as a casket.


4 posted on 04/25/2008 8:52:16 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Red Badger

$30K for something that is that butt ugly, only goes 125 mile and top speed is 65MPH? Nowegians are smoking crack if they think this will sell!


5 posted on 04/25/2008 8:58:42 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: Red Badger

Ttop speed of just 65 mph and still cost $30,000? Errrnt!

You early-adopters go ahead. Jump on board these tiny electric bandwagons, folks, and somebody please let me know when the electrified prices come down to hit the break-even point figuring $3.50 gasoline.


6 posted on 04/25/2008 9:00:07 AM PDT by flowerplough (I suck at Photoshop)
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To: Red Badger
Just occurred to me but how do you drive a 500 mile trip in one of these? Will there be a new chain of "12-hour" motels spring up to give you and the kids a place to hang out while you're waiting on the car to charge? Why is it always assumed by these folks that we're all densely-packed urban dwellers who can go all day on a 124-mile charge? Similarly, why do they expect to make a profit on the smallish percentage of people who can actually get away with using such a thing?


7 posted on 04/25/2008 9:01:02 AM PDT by ProfoundMan (Money is the mother's milk of politics but righteous indignation is the drug of choice.)
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To: Red Badger

A computer-generated image.


8 posted on 04/25/2008 9:07:52 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: Bommer

It would be interesting to see how much the electricity consumed costs. If the cost of electricity is in the 10 - 12 cents a mile range, it would be cost competitive to gasoline.

The short range would not matter much, because you would “fill it up” every night when you park it. In my most recent home renovation, I had the electrician run a GFI protected outlet to the end of the driveway, just in case.


9 posted on 04/25/2008 9:11:40 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: ProfoundMan

I think that’s why it’s considered an urban vehicle. You just wouldn’t go on a long drive with it.


10 posted on 04/25/2008 9:16:23 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: gridlock

Hmmm. Let’s see I am 6’2” and weigh, well let’s say my ideal wieght is 200lbs. I am going to “fit” into this car and have an enjoyable ride?


11 posted on 04/25/2008 9:20:03 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Red Badger
Air conditioning and heater? Maybe a sound system? I wonder how long those batteries will go in -10 degree weather?
124 mile long extension cord is optional, I guess.
12 posted on 04/25/2008 9:21:35 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Red Badger

I never understood the appeal of electric cars.
Wouldn’t charging the batteries from household current just about spin the meter off the pole? A bigger electric bill and more coal/oil/water used to generate that extra electricity to charge your “green” car. And all of those resources getting more and more costly. To say nothing about what happens to that trunkload of batteries when they reach the end of their usable life-what then? Landfill? Somesort of haz mat disposal akin to that of the ‘squiggle’ light bulbs? Oh yeah, real earth friendly.*pfffft*
Electric cars are “feel good” solutions, nothing more.


13 posted on 04/25/2008 9:23:00 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Still waiting for my flying car!)
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To: flowerplough

And by the way, sweat yer azzez off in hot weather with no air conditioning.


14 posted on 04/25/2008 9:34:28 AM PDT by Erasmus (Old Principals never die; they just lose their faculties.)
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To: Maine Mariner
Hmmm. Let’s see I am 6’2” and weigh, well let’s say my ideal wieght is 200lbs. I am going to “fit” into this car and have an enjoyable ride?

I love my two Scion xBs, and it sounds like we could be brothers. The Ox looks doable. The smaller one, not so much.

My daughter wants to do a Daddy/Daughter project to convert a car to electric. I am not ready to hack into one of the Scions just yet, so I am looking at VW 181s (Things) on eBay. It would just be for around-town, so aerodynamics don't matter so much. That is a pretty comfortable, if somewhat spartan, car.

15 posted on 04/25/2008 9:35:15 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: Red Badger
It's not a physical prototype. It's a computer generated image (CGI) on a photo of a real location.
16 posted on 04/25/2008 9:40:29 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ProfoundMan
Just occurred to me but how do you drive a 500 mile trip in one of these? Will there be a new chain of “12-hour” motels spring up to give you and the kids a place to hang out while you're waiting on the car to charge? Why is it always assumed by these folks that we're all densely-packed urban dwellers who can go all day on a 124-mile charge? Similarly, why do they expect to make a profit on the smallish percentage of people who can actually get away with using such a thing?

I remember an old (10+ years) TV show about early amateurs converting cars to electric.

The one I though was neat was an electric Honda Civic... when he wanted to further than his battery range, he towed a mini trailer behind with a gas powered generator on it running and giving him an electric supply...:^)

17 posted on 04/25/2008 9:40:30 AM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats)
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To: gridlock

With Turkey point getting another nuke plant down here, I’m very interested in an EV.

It’s wAy more efficient that the ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) in your car!


18 posted on 04/25/2008 9:43:04 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (FT. LAUDERDALE FLORIDA ($3.61/gal. yesterday))
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To: ozark hilljilly

There is some appeal just in the sense that you don’t have to fill them up at a gas station, just plug ‘em in and go. They’d need to be on fast, smart charger (like they have with higher-end electric tools.

I am not an electric car fan. Mainly because they are so limited in many ways when compared to a gas vehicle. The gas vehicles have much more potential to travel farther, haul more, get there comfortably, take an impact better, better visibility for the driver and to be seen, and of course, if you are in a crash, not burning to death trapped inside because emergency crews don’t want to hit the large voltage circuits/cables trying to cut through the car to get ya out.


19 posted on 04/25/2008 9:45:29 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ozark hilljilly
...just about spin the meter off the pole? A bigger electric bill and more coal/oil/water used to generate that extra electricity to charge your “green” car. And all of those resources getting more and more costly.

Yes, the "green car conundrum". Less pollution at the tailpipe, in this case no tailpipe, and more pollution at the source. A shell game, UNLESS all that electricity is powered by NUCLEAR fuel, which is ZERO EMISSIONS. Talk about nuclear power to any greenie and they go berserk.........well, more berserk than usual...................

20 posted on 04/25/2008 10:03:15 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: windsorknot

That’s pretty good. Reminds me of the parody song on Rush about the two young liberals that die in a Yugo.


21 posted on 04/25/2008 10:09:17 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Red Badger

Gee, I wonder what they use to make the electricity to power this Smurfmobile? Fossil fuels, for sure unless it is fiord-driven from tidal energy. There is no free lunch.


22 posted on 04/25/2008 10:11:17 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Red Badger
The Real Ox Concept Car (preferred by 9 out of 10 Socialists!):


23 posted on 04/25/2008 12:40:33 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: ozark hilljilly
I never understood the appeal of electric cars.

I Do. They have certain fundamental advantages in comparison to classic gasoline system that unfortunately remain overshadowed with inadequacy of current technology.

For example, fundamentally simpler power transmission (kiss the old gearbox goodbye), smaller engine (four engines, one per wheel, sized like coffee can), easily configured regenerative braking, fundamentally higher engine efficiency, etc. The list is long.

Wouldn’t charging the batteries from household current just about spin the meter off the pole?

Still cheaper than gasoline.

A bigger electric bill and more coal/oil/water used to generate that extra electricity to charge your “green” car.

The Key questions here are efficiency and method of producing that electricity. Moving a car around requires energy, that's fundamental. The questions are how the requisite energy (or more accurately, motive power) is produced and how efficient that production is.

Nuclear power is first thing that comes to mind as an enviromentally friendly way to power electric car. There are others.

And all of those resources getting more and more costly. To say nothing about what happens to that trunkload of batteries when they reach the end of their usable life-what then? Landfill? Somesort of haz mat disposal akin to that of the ‘squiggle’ light bulbs? Oh yeah, real earth friendly.*pfffft*

Recycling, man. Recycling. And even then, we have to compare which solution pollutes less in overall lifetime.

Electric cars are “feel good” solutions, nothing more.

Nope. Electric cars are a future solution which still requires some R&D to be competitive with traditional gasoline solutions. There are no fundamental "show-stoppers" to their development and competitive solutions are only a matter of time.
24 posted on 04/26/2008 6:13:35 AM PDT by MirrorField (Just an opinion from atheist, minarchist and small-l libertarian.)
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To: MirrorField

All good points, but as you said- electric cars are a future solution.
I’ve been hearing about electric cars as a solution to all our woes since the 1980’s.
How far into the future are we willing to wait?
At this point, electric cars are becoming like the flying cars we were all promised back in the 60’s. Neat idea, but it’s not helping us NOW.

I’m glad you’re passionate about those vehicles. I wish I could share your enthusiasm. But I don’t see any new nukes going online any time soon to provide that “cheap electricity” to charge these things. As for recycling batteries. HA! Y’all ain’t from around here are you? Our nearest recycler for ANYTHING, let alone batteries, is about 70 miles away. And if the batteries for your electric car have gave up the ghost, how are you going to get there to recycle them? Ah, yes-once electric cars become the norm recycling centers will spring up like mushrooms-even here. That’s still many years away, I fear.
Suped up golfcarts might be fine for all you metro/suburb folks but here in the remotest regions of flyover country they just don’t make sense for now.

I don’t have a solution. However, propane and compressed air cars are looking better to me.
But I am seriously considering buying a mule- slower, but way cheaper than gas right now and better suited to the terrain.


25 posted on 04/26/2008 7:16:36 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly
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To: crusty old prospector
..I wonder what they use to make the electricity to power this...

What's more, most of the energy from those fossil fuels is lost on the way from the power plant to the car.

26 posted on 04/26/2008 7:21:07 AM PDT by Mediocrates
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