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'Basic Instinct' Director Paul Verhoeven: Jesus Was Son of Mary, Rapist
Fox News website ^ | 4/23/08 | Paul Verhoeven

Posted on 04/23/2008 8:48:15 AM PDT by stockpirate

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To: kellynla
Verhoeven is a heretic, is what he is.

With this latest bit ... if he hasn't crossed the line into apostasy, he's sure dancing along on it.

22 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:36 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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strange, wonder when his ‘thoroughly researched’ movie on pedophile murderer muhammad (shit be upon him)will be forthcoming....


23 posted on 04/23/2008 8:56:52 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Wonder Warthog
Isn’t this the same moron who screwed up the movie of Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers”??

The one and the same.
24 posted on 04/23/2008 8:58:51 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: stockpirate

No one would dare make a film attacking Islam or any religion other than Christianity. They would be severely attacked and accused of “hate speech”. Only Christians can be attacked.


25 posted on 04/23/2008 8:59:05 AM PDT by detective
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To: stockpirate

No one would dare make a film attacking Islam or any religion other than Christianity. They would be severely attacked and accused of “hate speech”. Only Christians can be attacked.


26 posted on 04/23/2008 8:59:36 AM PDT by detective
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To: stockpirate
Published by Amsterdam-based Meulenhoff, the book is the result of more than 20 years of research.

Wow, a WHOLE 20 years, golly that's a lot of research. I wonder if during the 2,000+ years since the birth of Christ anyone has EVER thought about this...hmmm.

27 posted on 04/23/2008 9:00:02 AM PDT by AreaMan
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To: stockpirate; AliVeritas

Paging Bill Donohue ...


28 posted on 04/23/2008 9:00:32 AM PDT by sono (Well, what's the matter is the Democrats are an elitist group. That's the truth - Whoopi Goldberg)
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To: stockpirate
Note to self: Do not let your beliefs about eternity and the afterlife be influenced by a Leni Riefenstahl wannabe.
29 posted on 04/23/2008 9:00:46 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: detective

“No one would dare make a film attacking Islam or any religion other than Christianity. They would be severely attacked and accused of “hate speech”. Only Christians can be attacked.”

Make a film, how about just make some cartoons.


30 posted on 04/23/2008 9:01:32 AM PDT by stockpirate (Obamaicans, RNC's RINO Chickens............coming ......home..... to roost................)
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To: stockpirate
Verhoeven is proof of what happens when an atheist tries to rewrite the Bible.
31 posted on 04/23/2008 9:03:14 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: KarlInOhio

Unfair slam at Life of Brian.


32 posted on 04/23/2008 9:03:15 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: stockpirate
This is demented and obscene. However: I really enjoyed Starship Troopers.
33 posted on 04/23/2008 9:03:59 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Wonder Warthog
Isn’t this the same moron who screwed up the movie of Heinlein’s “Starship Troopers”??

He didn't screw it up. He intended to mock Heinlein in the movie. Although why he would do this is anybody's guess. People will be reading Heinlein long after this second-rater is forgotten.

34 posted on 04/23/2008 9:04:34 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: stockpirate
1 Titus 6:1-4 -

Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and [his] doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise [them], because they are brethren; but rather do [them] service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, [even] the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
35 posted on 04/23/2008 9:05:51 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: stockpirate

He’s just a lonely, old, forgotten film guy that no one remembers and he’s looking for publicity and attention.


36 posted on 04/23/2008 9:07:21 AM PDT by J40000
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To: jalisco555
He intended to mock Heinlein in the movie.

Interesting. Sounds like he's intending to mock Someone else, now.

37 posted on 04/23/2008 9:07:48 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: stockpirate

It may be BS, but he didn’t make it up.

1) We have two stories preserved in supplements to the Mishnah called the Tosefta (as well as in other parallel rabbinic texts but primarily see Tosefta Chullin 2:22-24) that refer to “Yeshu ben Pantera” (with alternate spelling variations). The first involves the famous Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus who lived in the late 1st and early 2nd century AD. Rabbi Eliezer relates a teaching in the “name of Yeshu ben Pantera” that he heard on the streets of Sepphoris from one Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin. Eliezer himself had been arrested for “heresy” and some have suspected he might have been sympathetic to the Nazarenes. The second story also involves Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin who attempts to heal a certain Rabbi Eleazar ben Dama of a snakebite in the name of “Yeshu ben Pantera.”

Although Maier and a few others have doubted these references are to Jesus of Nazareth, most experts are convinced that they are. Since both of these texts appear to use the designation “Yeshu ben Pantera” in a descriptive rather than a slanderous or polemical way they offer us evidence that Jesus was remembered as “son of Panthera” in the region of Galilee, and even on the streets of Sepphoris, in the early 2nd century. Indeed, Richard Bauckham argues quite persuasively that this Jacob of Kefar Sikhnin might well be James, son (or grandson?) of Jude the brother of Jesus, otherwise known to us as a prominent leader in the Galilean churches (Jude and the Relatives of Jesus, pp. 114-119).

2. The Greek philosopher Celsus relates in polemical work against the Christians preserved by the Christian theologian Origen that he had found it “written” that Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier named Pantera (Contra Celsum 1. 69). This text dates to the late 2nd century. Origen replies that the story was concocted by those who refused to believe that Jesus had no human father and was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

3. The 4th century Christian apologist Epiphanius seems to take the designation “Jesus son of Panthera” seriously in that he argues the name is actually a nickname for Jacob, the father of Joseph, husband of Mary. So rather than denying it is part of the family tradition he tries to explain it within that context.


38 posted on 04/23/2008 9:08:49 AM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: KarlInOhio
Brian's Mum: He was a Roman

Brian: You mean you were raped??!!

Brian's Mum: Well.... at first

39 posted on 04/23/2008 9:08:51 AM PDT by DCBurgess58
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To: jalisco555

I read his wiki entry and got an idea where he got ideas from. I guess you have to cut this guy some slack. He was living it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Verhoeven


40 posted on 04/23/2008 9:10:18 AM PDT by kinghorse
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