"What was the middle one again?"
Posted on 04/22/2008 10:42:02 AM PDT by RDTF
As the legend goes, when the Spanish conquistador Hernando Cortez landed in what is now Mexico in 1519, he ordered the boats that brought him and his men there to be burned. Obama seems to have something similar planned for NASA.
Although the MSM has largely ignored Barack Obama's plans for NASA, the issue is likely to bubble up during the general election campaign, if he's the Democratic nominee. Here's why.
There's a potential confluence of two events - one possible and one planned: an Obama presidency and a mission shift already underway at NASA.
The Space Shuttle program will end in 2010. The Constellation program is not scheduled to begin manned flights until 2015. Meanwhile, NASA faces dramatic job reductions among its 21,000 labor force at the close of the Shuttle Program. For example, the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral, FL faces a cut of 8,000 contractor jobs. The Michoud Assembly Facility near New Orleans could lose 1,300 of its 1,900 jobs.
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Cortez, according to the story, burned his boats to force his men to move inland with no option of going back. The Shuttle program is, metaphorically, like Cortez's boats. After 2010, the Shuttles are gone. The Constellation project will provide the vehicles for the next big step in space exploration. That is unless Barack Obama becomes our 44th president.
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Something interesting happens in the Obama campaign document entitled "Barack Obama's Plan For American Leadership in Space." The "something" is that there's nothing in there about "American leadership in space." It states,
"As president, Obama will support the development of this vital new platform [CEV] to ensure that the United States' reliance on foreign space capabilities is limited to the minimum possible time period."
Translated into English, that means that he'll maintain the Constellation project at a minimum $500 million per year budget as the band takes an extended break between sets, taking their instruments with them. And for how long does the U.S. postpone a new space transport capability? Obama's answer is the "minimum possible time period." (Now is that in human or dog years?)
In the meantime, the U.S. space program sits on the tarmac. This will free-up funding for his aggressive plans to federalize pre-school. (For one non-MSM explanation of what that's about read here.) Note that the final three paragraphs of Obama space plan are not about space exploration at all. They're about his education plan wherein he will:
Recruit High-Quality Math and Science Teachers Enhance Science Instruction Improve and Prioritize Science Assessments
Back to the Cortez analogy. The space boats are being burned on schedule as the Shuttle program phases out. The way forward is on the Ares 1 rocket and the CEV - Cortez's guns and horses. But Capitan Hernando Obama says, "Men, let's keep the guns clean and the powder dry, but not feed the horses for five years while we sit here on the beach and hope."
In the meantime what happens to NASA's cadre of scientists for five years? The answer is they move on because putting the Constellation Program on hold for five years is tantamount to killing it. (Would you want your dentist to perform a root canal on you after she returns from a five year sabbatical as a lifeguard in Tahiti?) Those scientists that can, retire. Many of those that cannot retire find jobs elsewhere - maybe teaching High School math for Obama, or working in China's space program. Then, at some indefinite "minimum" time down the road, the U.S. space program restarts and they come back. Or not.
In the meantime, how do our astronauts get to the International Space Station? Simple, they hitch rides on Russian space craft until the Chinese enter the space transport competition.
USA Today quoted Obama's perspective on the space program.
"We're not going to have the engineers and the scientists to continue space exploration if we don't have kids who are able to read, write and compute."
By the same logic, we should also suspend medical research grants and close down the National Institute of Health because we're not going to have physicians and biologists if we don't have kids who are able to read, write and compute. Yes?
During the Q. & A. session at a campaign stop in Wyoming, Obama was asked about the nation's space program. Here's a revealing account of his response written by Greg Zsidisin, the person who asked Obama "Why are you specifically pitting the space program against education, and where's the vision in shutting down the [human] space program?
"‘I grew up on Star Trek,' Obama said. ‘I believe in the final frontier.' (Huh?)
"But Obama said he does not agree with the way the space program is now being run and thinks funding should be trimmed until the mission is clearer. (It's actually much clear than his intentions toward Iran and nuclear weapon.)
"‘NASA has lost focus and is no longer associated with inspiration,' he said. ‘I don't think our kids are watching the space shuttle launches. It used to be a remarkable thing. It doesn't even pass for news anymore.' (Neither do heart transplants. So...should we stop them?)
"Obama seemed to resent my question. A little later, he addressed another on energy, and spoke of the need for an alternative energy effort. He concluded by turning to my direction and saying pointedly, ‘And that, sir, is what our next Apollo Program should be.'"
So there it is. The Global Social Worker aims to shift funds from space exploration to federal pre-schools. Or is it to an alternative fuel? Hard to figure.
All this suggests the most poignant irony of this entire campaign season.
Barack Obama, the candidate who has often been portrayed by some in the media as Kennedyesque, would leave the space exploration legacy of JFK sitting idle on the beach. Watching the boats burn.
“”We’re not going to have the engineers and the scientists to continue space exploration if we don’t have kids who are able to read, write and compute.””
Wow, I actually agree with Obama on something....hope it passes soon. :)
Has anyone noticed Hussein is the first candidate since FDR that smokes. How smart is the guy to not realize the associated health issues? Also note the media makes no mention of his tobacco addiction.
Obama wants to be sure that the Chinese control the high ground of space before we do.
"‘I grew up on Star Trek,' Obama said. ‘I believe in the final frontier.' (Huh?)
Yet another example of the empty suit that is Barry (Barack) Obama
"But Obama said he does not agree with the way the space program is now being run and thinks funding should be trimmed until the mission is clearer. (It's actually much clear than his intentions toward Iran and nuclear weapon.) "
Hint...the mission will never be clarified and therefore funding will never be restored.
yea, it would be nice to get rid of NASA, funny, this author thinks conservatives are going to be critical of him for this his lack of funding expansion?
The Chinese will be on the Moon, Japan will have a permanent orbital station building a Mars mission, India wil be the goto country for sat launches, and we’ll have change. And hope.
1. This article only addresses the manned program which is wasted money. The unmanned program produces all the science.
2. The Atlas V will be man rated and meet all NASA safety criteria long before 2015.
3. The Ares is in trouble and may not even be viable.
4. If Obama allowed the manned program at NASA die it would be the best thing that could happen to NASA.
I wouldn’t expect Hussein to support NASA since he hasn’t a clue as to what science and engineering are about—the guy is nothing but a cheesy, cheap, race-baiting, politician lawyer seeking to lord it over whitey.
An occasional drink and swearing don’t have near the detrimental effect on healthcare that people that smoke or practice homosexual behavior or use IV drugs.
Perhaps because cigarettes are a legal product and it is no big deal?
Well, if money was diverted from BS science and math such as global climate change to real math and science programs we might find that we have students interested in science and math.
One of the key motivators during the 50s and 60s for kids to go into math and science was the space program — initiated by a GOP administration and hijacked as their own by a corrupt pair of democrats.
Possible scifi list ping?
If Barack Hussein Obama were to become president of the United States, his plans for NASA would be the least of our worries.
Has anyone noticed Hussein is the first candidate since FDR that smokes. How smart is the guy to not realize the associated health issues? Also note the media makes no mention of his tobacco addiction.
He quit that is why. Isn’t it a freedom of choice question. I can’t stand Obama, but let’s not get carried away with your liberalism. No I don’t smoke, but feel that people can if they want without the smoking police always saying snide remarks.
Gil Scott-Heron had a song about this back in 1970 I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5smPcN8AoE
Day one of the Obama Administration: Executive order authorizing unionization of 200,000 TSA employees (those wizards who make you take off your shoes at the airport). This is another bone to throw to his buddies at the Gov’t Unions - 18 billion of pre-K education is a GIFT to the teachers unions.
Report: Soyuz crew was in serious danger during descent
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Ya....government math programs, where 1 + 1 = 3, and government “science” programs, aimed at inventing data to support preconceived social programs.
He won’t need NASA. He’ll just get his buddy Farrakhan to contact the mothership.
This may make Dennis Miller happy enough to vote for Obama.
Space Ping.
You are ruining my dreams that the halfrican will get lung cancer and die before January.
"Obama seemed to resent my question. A little later, he addressed another on energy, and spoke of the need for an alternative energy effort. He concluded by turning to my direction and saying pointedly, ‘And that, sir, is what our next Apollo Program should be.'"
So there it is. The Global Social Worker aims to shift funds from space exploration to federal pre-schools. Or is it to an alternative fuel? Hard to figure.
Now, THAT is a great line.
Like most policy makers, sounds like snOBAMA is largely a technical illiterate. Ever notice that the policy makers set the goals (CAFE, man on the moon, etc.) and it is the Engineers who make it work DESPITE the laws of physics and economics? Why don’t we put more engineers in policy making positions?
Because we lack the charisma and interpersonal skills to convey our brilliance to all you stupid people. ;)
What’s wrong with my interpersonal skills? I can use scarcasm and insolence with the best of them.
You know, I never sold my car before aquiring new transportation. This is what this seems like and when we have a liberal in office for the next 4 years (which is a forgone conclusion) we could be figuatively hitching rides for the next decade at a minumum.
My DH is an engineer. I love his group’s Christmas party dinner. A dozen guys with low interpersonal and social interaction skills and their chatty (me included) wives. Its a hoot...because (sorry) you guys are kinda all the same...and the wives are kind of all the same (much more extroverted than the husbands)...just my observations :)
But you still need to master the art of switching between thoughtful and bemused.
Actually I think Willy-Bill included among his uses for cigars actually smoking them, and I heard Rush describe a smoker (cigars) with our current President in the Map Room at the White House. I also remember hearing Willie Nelson describe inhaling the wildwood flower on a White House portico during the Carter administration. I puff the occasional cigar, and know they’re referring to cigarette smoking—nevertheless the White House has not been smoke-free since FDR.
I hear he's going to return us to the glory days of The Old Negro Space Program.
I’m not an introvert. I’ll at least stare at the other person’s shoes. (There was an additional tasteless comment here that I wisely deleted)
"What was the middle one again?"
Lol. I was wondering how long before someone posted that. One of the classics.
Deleting tasteless comments shows both superior intelligence and interpersonal skills. :)
True, it was a different time then, 1957 or 58....
Shh!
LOL I *k n e w* that was comin’ before I even clicked!!1!
That's our Coug.... LOL
Wh-wh-wh-what mi-dd-dd-ddle one?
Haven't you heard:
1.) the JFK story of him sending out lackeys to buy up all the Cuban cigars in the metro DC area before he issued the embargo?and
2.) the LBJ story while recovering from a heart attack, he says to the doctor "I guess I can't smoke any more while I'm President"?
It’s CCCCCCCCCCoug! CCCCCCCCCComing to KKKKKKKill Me!
What else would we expect from this race baiting liberal POS ?
Pay no attention to him PaMom. I’m a very charismatic person. If I had any friends they would tell you.
Well, that not an unbiased comment.
2. The Atlas V will be man rated and meet all NASA safety criteria long before 2015.
Who is paying for that and whats your point? That we throw all our eggs in one basket again?
3. The Ares is in trouble and may not even be viable
Says who? The program is not mature enough to even make such a statement.
4. If Obama allowed the manned program at NASA die it would be the best thing that could happen to NASA.
I have a great respect for those who perform the unmanned exploration mission, but I have to disagree with your assertion. Manned space is and should be the end goal of our exploration efforts.
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