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Texas Polygamy Case: Based on a Hoax?
FoxNews ^ | 4/21/08 | Unknown

Posted on 04/21/2008 12:34:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," April 18, 2008. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: This is a "FOX News Alert." The fate of the FLDS children, 416 of them, taken from a Texas polygamist compound has been decided, at least temporarily. A Texas judge ruled that all 416 children will remain in state custody and will be subject to DNA testing. Individual hearings will be set for the children over the next several weeks.

Now, the news tonight, 33-year-old Rosita Swinton just arrested in Colorado for filing a false police report, pretending to be an abused girl locked in a basement. But it gets even more bizarre. Who else has Swinton been calling? Well, Swinton has many, many times called Flora Jessop, a former FLDS church member who now runs a rescue mission for teen girls trying to escape.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: flds; mormon; polygamy; texas
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1 posted on 04/21/2008 12:34:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Greta Van Susteren, Scientologist, seems to be very concerned about whether or not the cult was unfairly treated.

However, she is an attorney and knows that the answer is no: they were treated the same as anyone else would be in that situation.

2 posted on 04/21/2008 12:45:38 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Looks like this fake report of abuse is exactly the excuse the state of Texas was looking for.


3 posted on 04/21/2008 12:46:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Another person unable to understand the chain of events.

The Colorado calls had NOTHING to do with the original warrant.

The Texas calls were taken by a shelter which does not record calls. Jessop never heard the original caller.


4 posted on 04/21/2008 12:48:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I really don’t care if the original call was a hoax.

From EVERYTHING I’ve seen, there is polygamy and statutory rape going on in that Mormon compund, and I for one am glad that Walker, Texas Ranger and all of his fellow officers are putting an end to it.


5 posted on 04/21/2008 12:48:12 PM PDT by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Is this the same Rosita Swinton who posted this on a blog? Is she an Obama delegate?


Keith is going to expose Hillary for the despicable liar she is. If he doesn’t, I’ll make a few phone calls and get him arrested for fraud and treason. When Obama is elected president, I will be working with him and his administration to round up every domestic war criminal and send them to sensitivity training camps. That will include all those Fox people, conservative bloggers, Republican operatives, war profiteering warmongers, those anti-choice bigots who shout at women exercising their God-given right to choose, and of course all those sick child molesting christian bigots. The last eight years has been a reign of terror from the right. Nothing less than eight years of unrelenting war against the whole right wing and their sympathizers will balance out what our stinking pile of pig crap Nazi president has done. I’m going to the convention for Obama, because he’s the only person who is willing to beg Europe for our reputation back, talk with and ally himself with Chavez and Ahmedinejad and all the world’s true freedom-fighters. Only with Obama will it be down with Haliburton and the international cabal of war profiteers and down with the so-called christian ideals. Let the new era begin without this ridiculous notion that the U.S. is better than anyone else. Sen. Obama knows this, that’s why he won’t wear the stupid American flag pin on his jacket. The whole thing makes him sick like it makes me sick. If Hillary steals the nomination, no real Democrat will ever vote for her. Better let the rupugnicans win, while we organize the underground resistance.

Posted By: Rosita Swinton | April 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Clinton_on_Olbermann.html


6 posted on 04/21/2008 12:48:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All

If Rosita Swinten is disturbed, it is quite possible she was abused earlier in her life. At any rate with the DNA they should be able to determine if underaged girls have given birth, and who the fathers are.


7 posted on 04/21/2008 12:51:48 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Looks like this fake report of abuse is exactly the excuse the state of Texas was looking for.

It looks like your should learn to read, a question is not a statement of fact?

8 posted on 04/21/2008 12:54:41 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Is this the same Rosita Swinton who posted this on a blog? Is she an Obama delegate?”

Sure looks like it.

Guess we found the Mrs. Rev. Wright.


9 posted on 04/21/2008 12:56:51 PM PDT by wilco200 (Typical White Person)
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To: org.whodat
‘It looks like your should learn to read, a question is not a statement of fact?’

Heh.

We are all on the same team here. The truth will come out. Just keep your powder dry and lets hold the animosity for the right people.

10 posted on 04/21/2008 12:59:47 PM PDT by BGHater ("If any question why we died/ Tell them, because our fathers lied")
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To: fishtank

“the nature of the evidence is irrelevant and the seriousness of the charge is”

Now let’s go justify it at all costs and anyone that disagrees with the actions of the state is merely supporting pedophilia.

Burn the witches!!!!

/s


11 posted on 04/21/2008 12:59:51 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out.)
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To: gleeaikin

In ever major enter-city schools there are thousands of underaged girls having babies every year......


12 posted on 04/21/2008 1:01:44 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That would be a random internet troll who typed her name in.


13 posted on 04/21/2008 1:02:23 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: BGHater; org.whodat

Agent org is a mission to root out all the government God heretics here on FR. :)


14 posted on 04/21/2008 1:02:41 PM PDT by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Could be a “hoax” but I’m going to wait and see how many 12-16 year old pregnant girls and mothers they find and see what DNA says about who the father is.


15 posted on 04/21/2008 1:03:06 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: fishtank
From EVERYTHING I’ve seen, there is polygamy and statutory rape going on in that Mormon compund

I haven't seen any evidence to support that yet. There is a lot of speculation, and there may well be evidence .. but I haven't seen any of it yet.

I think the truth and evidence needed will come out with these DNA tests they are doing. I think the raid needed to be done .. and based on other *like* sects .. I'm sure that evidence will be forthcoming.

Sometimes people have pre-drawn conclusions and believe what they want to believe. Remember when everyone rushed out to believe that Dan Rather had real evidence to prove his case against Bush in the Reserves? And then it all blew up?

I want to see some conclusive evidence .. and I think that will not come until the DNA results come back.

16 posted on 04/21/2008 1:04:21 PM PDT by CometBaby (You can twist perceptions .. reality won't budge!)
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To: navysealdad
In ever major enter-city schools there are thousands of underaged girls having babies every year.

Not usually fathered by men 20-40 years their senior.

17 posted on 04/21/2008 1:05:55 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Politicalmom
Yes, Jessop never heard the original caller, and can't know if Swinton placed those calls, or if someone else placed those calls, or even if they are genuine.

The police probably couldn't get a warrant for the phone records of the shelter where the original calls were received without evidence of a false report, and may still be having trouble getting them now. They may be able to get a Judge to order that if the records show the calls came from Swinton, or the area where she lives, the whole records of those particular calls would need to be turned over.

However, if the police didn't have good reason to suspect that the calls were falsified, they likely couldn't have gotten a warrant for phone records from the shelter, and wouldn't have had good reason to suspect that the calls were faked since they seemed credible based on their contents.

If the police didn't attain the warrant under false pretenses (they didn't know the reports were false) I doubt the evidence attained under the warrant is going to be thrown out even if it turns out the calls weren't from a real victim.

18 posted on 04/21/2008 1:07:44 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Politicalmom

There’s some major weirdness going on here. I wonder if Swinton has a friend who works at the Texas domestic abuse shelter/hotline. If so, 2 possiblities: 1) the whole thing was a hoax arranged by the friend in Texas, who knew bad things were going on inside the compound and was frustrated that police/CPS wouldn’t investigate without a call from a specific victim, or 2) the friend told Swinton a lot of details about the initial call(s) from a real victim, received by the shelter hotline on March 29, not realizing what a nutcase Swinton is, and this prompted Swinton to start making the phony calls to Flora Jessop.


19 posted on 04/21/2008 1:09:22 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Let’s remember “innocent until proven guilty.”

Michael Savage has been screaming that this whole thing is a hoax for days, an excuse for lesbians at the call center to steal the girls or some such thing. That last part doesn’t make sense to me, since it is my understanding that the girls are in the custody of the state of Texas.

I’m taking no positions, just reporting what I heard Savage raving about. He was rather out of control, but that’s not unusual.


20 posted on 04/21/2008 1:09:49 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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