Texas LDS deal with confusion

Deseret News ^ | 04/21/2008 | Ben Winslow

[DelphiUser]

What is Mormonism: HERE

Seems like the fLDS fits the description to me.

Oh PULese!

So if I go and set up a website called what is "color country" and rip you up and down and then post a link, it's true?

[colorcountry]

At the Joseph Smith conference at the Library of Congress in 2005, Robert Millett told of a letter he had received from a long-time acquaintance and friend who was a religious scholar from another denomination.

Oh, you mean THIS Robert Millett. The one who condones Lying for the Lord?

[DelphiUser]

Why are you attacking others as being "vile?" (Doesn't that, then, by your own standard make you guilty of what you accuse others of being?)

Apparently you have not seen some of the posts I have, Vile is mild.

That said, who said anything about you?

[colorcountry]

Perhaps it would be true. I’m surprised you actually looked at my link. Haven’t you already determined that I am an APOSTATE and everything I say is a lie?

[Colofornian]

Let's see...OMM is averaging now about 3 times a thread in posting this. (I don't mind if he wants to spam the exact same content on distinct threads...but it'd be nice if the post average was 1.0 per thread).

The fact that you're repeating it, OMM, reminds me of the defensive posture some Mormons go into when they don't know how to respond to a faith challenge...They usually respond..."I know that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the true church and that Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God and J..."

(It's almost like a propaganda mantra button pushes on & the same phrase comes out almost-as-if, "Boy, if we just say this enough times to each other in our meetings & when challenged in public, it'll be true & everything will just turn out alright.")

[Colofornian]

That said, who said anything about you?

Read my post again...I said "others"

[Colofornian]

Oh, you mean THIS Robert Millett. The one who condones Lying for the Lord?

Wow! So "Elsie-like!" (Is Elsie incarnating thru you today? LOL)

[lady lawyer]

Bro. Millett never advocates lying. He is only saying what I just got through saying. You have no obligation to engage with anti-Mormon bigots on their terms, and no obligation to answer their supposedly clever setup questions.

But this is the kind of distinction I don’t expect you to understand. So I will engage no further with you.

[rightazrain]

“Mormon” should never be used to describe polygamous sects.”

Except for when the polygamist women ask for a Book of MORMON.

[DelphiUser]

U Said: That doesn't prove anything. LDS missionaries hit up every house,

My point precisely.

U Said: and if they happen to stumble upon a random fLDS household, so be it. I'm not talking about if the LDS missionary division intentionally & routinely sends missionaries to the SW border of Utah/Arizona & the other fLDS strongholds. Your response didn't have specific info on that.

Sorry, I have talked about these friends before, and quite a lot recently, we all telecommute, the FLDS person I was talking about lives in Colorado City, which is an FLDS stronghold...

U Said: Your pretend "answer" falls flat (again).

Do I need to rebut this? Obviously there are missionaries there bugging them the same as they bug you, sorry for the perceived lack of inconvenience.

[Colofornian]

We know that the LDS church is a restoration of Christ’s church, with the priesthood, the ordinances, and points of doctrine which were lost or removed, restored.

Another example of what I addressed @ the end of post #65...a propaganda testimony mantra kicking in.

(Of course what LL doesn't tell all the historic Christians reading this is that when LDS use the term "restoration" that means they believe that what you have, faith-wise, was completely lost...hence when she accuses those of not having "an ounce of good faith in all of those people put together" she is really citing something that is standard Mormon doctrine toward ALL Christian sects:)

LDS "Scripture": "I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were ALL wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that ALL their creeds were and abomination in his sight, that those professors were ALL corrupt.... (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith--History 1:19)

[Eva]

I’ve read articles on the internet that this campaign against the FLDS cult has been played up by the Huckabee supporters. Is that true? They also claim that it is connected to the petition to demand that Mitt Romney be excluded from consideration for VP. Is that true, are they the same people?

The other question that is being raised on the web is who is funding the movement? Is is the same lobby group that changed their name to, Trust Huckabee?

[DelphiUser]

You do have a point.

[DelphiUser]

Perhaps it would be true. I’m surprised you actually looked at my link. Haven’t you already determined that I am an APOSTATE and everything I say is a lie?

Why are you surprised? I follow every link I have not already followed, I read fast, it's good "opposition research". I just wish all the anti's would follow my links...

Besides, When in Taiwan, I learned a saying "A truly wise man can learn from even a fool" Yes it's attributed to Confucius, what isn't? It still has taught me much over the years.

[DelphiUser]

Read my post again...I said "others"

Yes, but you responded... Never mind this is a stupid sub thread, agreed?

(although it does bring my average post size down :-)

[colorcountry]

You don’t need to answer, to paraphrase Br. Millet, because as Latter Day Saints you know more about God than the rest of us. Sounds kinda bigotted to me, and against God’s word.

1 Peter 3:15 but sanctify the Lord God always in your hearts:and be ready ALWAYS to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear......

[DelphiUser]

and no obligation to answer their supposedly clever setup questions.

So, when did you stop beating your second wife?

(I just couldn't resist!)

[colorcountry]

Which Missionary field is the Colorado City mission in?

Where are the headquarters, could you get me in contact with that particular Mission President? I have a few questions to ask him.

[lady lawyer]

Your post is a perfect illustration of what I am talking about. You have twisted what I said, and twisted Mormon doctrine.

We believe that much truth, but not all, remains in mainstream Christianity.

At the time the Mormon Church was founded, mainstream Christians recognized the same thing. My great-great grandfather was a Methodist preacher. He and his fellow religionists knew and understood that the church at that time was, in his words “fallen,” with a hireling priesthood, for one thing. He knew that a restoration was necessary, and he recognized it when he saw it.

In fact, Protestantism exists because the Protestants believed that the “mainstream Christianity” of that time — Catholicism — had become corrupted. But the Protestants claimed no restoration of the original church. They did the best they could by interpreting the Bible. And there were and are many good people among them.

Mormons believe that all people have the Light of Christ, and that they can respond to truth no matter where they hear it.

You need to read the entire story of Joseph Smith, and what sent him into the woods to pray about which church was true. You need to read about the preachers from various denominations making speeches about Christian love in public, but in private these professors of Christian love were as vicious to each other as you are to us Mormons.

That attitude was an abomination. As are some of the “creeds” that have evolved over the centuries.

But to say that is not to deny the good faith of Christians who show some semblance of Christian love and who recognize Christ as their Savior.

[DelphiUser]

I am responding to the accuses those of not having "an ounce of good faith in all of those people put together"

I have met many Orthodox Christians with bags of integrity, and loads of good faith, they generally don't frequent forums and attack other religions. All the good faith, god works and Good intentions will not make up for being wrong.

I know you guys think the same of us, but I don't frequent forums attacking other religions, and try to give the benefit of the doubt to those attacking me and mine, I try to assume they are just ignorant.