Posted on 04/19/2008 8:02:51 AM PDT by garbageguy
The days of Swift Boating are numbered
Friday, April 18, 2008 12:25 PM EDT While the Democrats continue to gnaw at each other for the partys nomination, there are signs, indications even, that some of the recent methods of electoral success in the past are fading as effective tools.
Most notably, Swift Boating, may finally be on its way to becoming a historical footnote.
Swift Boating describes the effective use on well funded false charges against th
(Excerpt) Read more at irontontribune.com ...
All these restrictions of speech have to stop...and remove themselves. Thank you Soros and McCain.
The key to effective “swift boating” is that that target has to be a liar with little character or spine. The swift boater has to be honorable, truthful and courageous. If either one is not just right, it is ineffective.
He doesn’t even know what “Swift Boating” means or is. What a dork.
Umm, what false charge would that be? They had Kerry dead to rights, lying like a S.A.S.
S.A.S.= S.O.S.

He has it defined exactly as the Dems want it defined.
and speaking of garbage ... I can’t read more tha the excerpt. Does the author go on to enumerate the ‘false charges?’
Unlike most ‘negative’ political advertising, the Swift Boat Vets were real people who served w/Kerry who stepped forward courageously against the odds to tell their story and version of events. To this day we haven’t seen a 180.
No barf alert? Yeesh.
“well funded false charges”. The Swift Boat charges were true!
HAHAHAHAHA! The ones printed on Band-aids?
" Thing you don't recognise your "hero" Kerry was a fraud. The swift boat vets told the truth. Calling attacks on politicians "swift boat attacks" is disrespectful to these vetrans. I think you ows them an apology. I'm sure they won't get one from you but you owe it none the less. "
What false charges?
Did anyone keep count - how many vets questioned Kerry’s
accounts vs. how many came to his defense? Had to be like
100 to 2 against.
The moonbat lexicon says... false (adj.): true, but politically harmful to Democrats.
That is well documented at the swift vet’s web site.
He has confused Rather-gating with Swift boating. Attack Bush with false lies like Rather, and thats OK. Attack Kerry with the truth and that is wrong? As usual the liberals have it A@$backward.
And as this never happened before 2004, the term dates from that time
Has Jon Carey collected his $1 Million yet? He said he was gonna do it...
The writer obviously thinks that Richard Nixon really did send John Kerry into Cambodia in 1968. (Tip: Nixon wasn't President in 1968.)
The leftist publications have control of the language. Control language and you control thought. It doesn't matter that their definition is the reverse of reality. "Swiftboating" will mean what they say it means.
Only rarely has a conservative been able to put a word into our vocabulary that hasn't had its meaning twisted by the left. And we are bombarded with "swift-boating", defined (by the left) as lies, "anything scandalous"-gate to remind the unwashed of Nixon, etc, etc. And the list of words usurped by the homosexual lobby is growing. "Gay" is gone from its historical usage. Rainbow, partner, buddy, etc, etc are going fast.
Please. I want my language back.
I e mailed Jim Crawford a link to this thread and how people think about his writing.
With writers like him, it’s no wonder Ohio is in deep trouble
“Swiftboating” is actually the revealing of the truth that has been swept under the rug and kept out of the daylight by the MSM.
It means whatever liberals want it to mean, facts be da m ed
To me being Swift Boated is to be a truthful whistle blower and be branded as a liar by partisans who don’t like your message.
I sent the Swiftboater’s money before I sent them some more money. Bought their book too.
One of the few times I’ve ever sent any group or political campaign money.
I guess I was duped. /Sar.
The Swift Boat Vet’s ads worked because they were simply video footage of Kerry’s testimony in Congress, his lies were finally put out for the nation to see.
Since the MSM refused to discuss Kerry’s history and shoved it down their black hole, (just like Saddam and Son’s history), someone had to do the job of reporting to Americans.
Bingo...and not enough conservatives are fighting back.
I always refer to the Iraq operation as the ‘liberation of Iraq’, I never use ‘Iraq war’.
When idiots complain about Bush and his oil buddies I remind them of their war for oil lies.
I don’t use ‘suicide bombing’, I use ‘genocide bombing’ or ‘homicide bombing’.
I seem to remember a $1 million bet to prove any charges false. The bet was ignored(?). Kerry has sunk back into his little liberal hole in the ground.
But hey, thats just reality.
there was no other president but NIXON involved in the vietnam war, dont you know that. (sarc)


False charges that John Kerry has yet to refute despite being offered $1,000,000 in cash if he could do so. This is a great example of "the dog that didn't bark". Kerry's failure to refute the charges and Go Past Go is evidence enough of their truth.
I think that the Dems are very, very fearful of what a Swiftboat attack could do to the candidacy of their Marxist candidate for President, the one and only Obama. Personally, I expect the Swiftboating of Obama to be very effective given the wealth of material available. And that is just what we know now. Just wait until we really dig into this guys political past.
They weren't false charges.
Which is why they were effective.
It turns out John Kerry really was an awful liar and a poor leader devoid of character.
The more you know...
don't have to look hard to find the false charge in this drivel do you?
‘Swift-boating’? Hah!
The democrats cooked up this cooked up phraselet to get the media away from THEIR truly evil invention, ‘Borking’.
Thanks for including the above line at the end of the excerpt - - it indicates there's no need to click the link and read any further. The author is clearly a lying p.o.s., so why bother? See ya on another thread!
FRegards,
LH
Obama, Kerry, and the democrats can just hope.
Purple hearts that he recommended for himself. A fact F Kerry never denied.
If leftists couldn't lie, they'd have to be silent.
The real story of how the Swift Vets torpedoed Kerry can be found right here.
Nor have we seen a refutation of these charges by Kerry or anybody associated with his campaign.
That is, unless you want to count the New York Times' idle claim that the charges had been "discredited" (they never said how or by whom)...
Vietnam veterans have now been granted popular acceptance, and a multitude of sources are stating they served with courage, commitment, and dedication, while holding to the position SwiftBoat Veteran’s for Truth were a blight on our society. This position directly contradicts John Kerrys report to the Washington Star, saying, “We established an American presence in most cases by showing the flag and firing at sampans and villages along the banks. Those were our instructions, but they seemed so out of line that we finally began to go ashore, against our orders, and investigate the villages that were supposed to be our targets. We discovered we were butchering a lot of innocent people, and morale became so low among the officers on those ‘swift boats’ that we were called back to Saigon for special instructions from Gen. Abrams. He told us we were doing the right thing. He said our efforts would help win the war in the long run. That’s when I realized I could never remain silent about the realities of the war in Vietnam.” Kerry further testified before Congress saying, We had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command ..They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country”.
Such a position poses a dilemma. Is the first position true? If so, then how are we to regard assertions Swiftboat Veterans for Truth made scurrilous and disgraceful attacks when they vehemently contradicted Kerrys claims about his and others actions in Vietnam. In which roll was John Kerry a great patriot? How do we regard his four months of service in Vietnam, where he was given the Silver Star, Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts? How do we regard his two years of service with Vietnam Veterans Against the War, which the North Vietnamese consider sufficiently valuable to recognize him in their war memorial in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). Only the presence of a stunning naiveté approaching the supernatural could not identify a contradiction.
The current position does not offer a means to re-interpret the understanding of others and my service with TF-116. In my little corner of the war on the Ca Mau Peninsula our boats and ships were ordered not to return fire from the village of Nam Can as they transited to and from Seafloat. We were expected to gut it out through the kill zone, because the village was designated by us as a sanctuary from the war for civilians. However, I am popularly and historically considered a victim and un-indicted war criminal, while now at the same having served courageously.
maybe the best part of the SBV ‘04 activities was watching Lawrence O’Donnell’s veins popping as he screamed repeatedly at John O’Neill who sat there cool as a cucumber. I thought for the second time in my life I’d see someone die live on tv.
“Swiftboating” is repeatedly presenting truth to the lies told by a political aspirant so that the liar’s plans are foiled and he looks like a fool. JF Kerry is the gold standard example.
Your definitions are certainly convoluting the definition of Swift Boating. Like reassigning Red and Blue colors to running away from the word liberal, a definition more in tune with a libertarian than a statist such as yourself.
Swift Boating is an exposure of a person's falsely defined public image. It is only done by forces outside the media and parties. The media does not Swift Boat it libels or engages in character assassination. Dan rather was swift-boated. So was Kerry.
If the charges against Kerry were false, he has had plenty of time to refute them,all he has to do is fully release his service records. "
Good work.
Here’s mine:
Swiftboating: Exposing the lies, deceit and fraud of self-glorifying public officials or candidates for public office who exaggerate their military service by lying about feats of heroism or combat wounds.
Kerry is a man whose honor wasnt besmirched as much as his dishonor was revealed.
If you disagree (and have PROOF the Swifties lied about John Kerry), there’s $1 million waiting to be collected from T. Boone Pickens.
Jim Crawford, your money awaits you. Show us the PROOF.
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