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Karl Rove vs. Dan Abrams (Rove destroy' MSNBC's Don Siegelman story)
The Corner on National Review Online ^ | April 13, 2008 | Karl Rove

Posted on 04/18/2008 12:52:21 PM PDT by DesScorp

On April 7th, you again devoted a substantial part of your show to the claim of former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman that I was behind his prosecution. Your continued coverage of this issue raises questions about your journalistic standards and those of MSNBC and NBC. During your broadcast, Mr. Siegelman referred to Ms. Dana Jill Simpson as a “respected Republican political operative,” a reference it seems you accept because of the frequent attention you give her in your broadcasts.

Have you, during your coverage of Ms. Simpson, ever actually looked into her claims? For example, have you ever asked her what campaigns she worked as “an operative” with me?

And if so, did you check out what she said by calling the candidates who were my clients or their campaign managers to ask if she was involved in those campaigns? Did you review campaign expenditure reports to see if her name appeared as a paid operative? Or did you check with the DeKalb County Republican chairman or activists (such as the Moore campaign chairman, an effort she told the Judiciary Committee she was active in) to see if she really was a “respected Republican political operative?”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: democrats; rove; siegelman
In a long rebuttal, Rove tears into MSNBC's reporting of the ex-Governor Don Siegelman prosecution, destroying the assertions one by one. Like The New Republic's problems with Stephen Glass, it appears MSNBC hung its entire story on the fraudulent testimony of a con artist.
1 posted on 04/18/2008 12:52:21 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

“it appears MSNBC hung its entire story on the fraudulent testimony of a con artist.”

And this is new in what way.

Do you expect anything different?


2 posted on 04/18/2008 12:56:37 PM PDT by stockpirate (Obama and Hillery will make me vote for McCain, now if we can just move him to the right.)
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To: stockpirate

You would have think they would have learned from CBS’s “fake but accurate” fiasco.


3 posted on 04/18/2008 12:58:56 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: DesScorp

I saw Karl Rove give a speech at a college a few weeks ago on C-SPAN. I don’t know why the man isn’t running for office.


4 posted on 04/18/2008 1:00:15 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DesScorp

There’s a reason media articles are called stories. That’s what they are most of the time. Stories. A reporter is nothing more than a storyteller when it comes right down to it. He has a limited number of facts to work with, and from those facts he must weave a tale that will hold the reader. Some of the facts the reporter has are accurate; some are not. But either way, the facts are not the story. The story lies in the inferences, the color, and the spin. These are what reports are paid for, and their job – their sacred oath – is to make the news pop. It has to sing. It has to thrill. Without all that, it isn’t really news to anyone.

IMHO - Jane


5 posted on 04/18/2008 1:00:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: oh8eleven
I love Karl Rove.

God bless him all the way.

6 posted on 04/18/2008 1:01:40 PM PDT by what's up
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To: DesScorp
Marxist
Socialist
Nightly
Bull$hit
Channel
7 posted on 04/18/2008 1:02:36 PM PDT by elizabetty (I vote for four years without a president if these three clowns are the choice.)
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To: stockpirate

At least Rove didn’t let it stand.


8 posted on 04/18/2008 1:03:34 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: DesScorp
From the first day the liberals heard the name Carl Rove it became synonymous with and getting their asses kicked.
9 posted on 04/18/2008 1:04:23 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DesScorp
note of an ample-sized, redheaded woman who kept showing up at his events with a camera?

hahaha! excellent word picture by Rove...

10 posted on 04/18/2008 1:05:09 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: DesScorp

I’m sure MSNBC will immediately and publicly apologize for their inexcusably shoddy journalism, and spend as much time exonerating Rove as they spent attacking him.


11 posted on 04/18/2008 1:05:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: I still care

Heck no! The media believe they are infallible. Dick Cheney stated at the Radio and Television Correspondents Dinner that on Wednesday he went from meeting one infallible person (the Pope) to meeting with thousands (the journalists). I love his digs at the press!


12 posted on 04/18/2008 1:06:11 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: DesScorp
In fact, it seems you believe that the absence of any concrete evidence is itself evidence of the conspiracy. If you don’t have any proof Karl Rove did it, that absence is proof enough. I am that good.

Wow....

13 posted on 04/18/2008 1:15:34 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: DesScorp
In fact, it seems you believe that the absence of any concrete evidence is itself evidence of the conspiracy. If you don’t have any proof Karl Rove did it, that absence is proof enough. I am that good.

Bwahaha.
14 posted on 04/18/2008 1:19:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Cicero

Rove by his very association with Bush, Republicans in general, and his stolen victories makes him a suspect, no matter how outlandish the charges.


15 posted on 04/18/2008 1:20:53 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: DesScorp

I rarely watch or read the MSM anymore; and when I do, I do so with a jaundiced eye or ear.

They ARE such a bunch of liars.


16 posted on 04/18/2008 1:23:00 PM PDT by kjo
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To: DesScorp
Rove is awesome!

Dan Abrams, go sit in the corner because you suck and so does your whole "news" channel.

17 posted on 04/18/2008 1:23:59 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: Ouderkirk

Stolen Victories?


18 posted on 04/18/2008 1:24:25 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp
MSNBC has bought into the idea that Fox is the Republican network, and so are operating as if they are the Democrat network. The problem is, Fox is much more balanced in their coverage than what liberals accuse them of, so MSNBC is living a lie and providing lousy news reportage in the process.
19 posted on 04/18/2008 1:24:43 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (We need a new, conservative party to get back to a two-party system.)
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To: DesScorp
Karl Rove: I know you might be concerned that asking these questions could restrict your ability to make sensational charges on the air, but don’t you think you have a responsibility to provide even a shred of supporting evidence before sullying the journalistic reputations of MSNBC and NBC?

I've caught Dan Abrams talking about this issue in an accusatory way. I hope this article puts him in his place.

20 posted on 04/18/2008 1:25:01 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Ouderkirk

Stolen victories? (did you forget your sarcasm tags?)


21 posted on 04/18/2008 1:25:25 PM PDT by Jackson57
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To: DesScorp

Hey Dan!

Better put some ice on that!


22 posted on 04/18/2008 1:26:22 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: DesScorp

Dan Abrams is picking up the “fake but accurate” torch from Dan Rather, and running with it.


23 posted on 04/18/2008 1:28:27 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: DesScorp

Once again....Rove, you magnificent bastard!


24 posted on 04/18/2008 1:42:13 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: DesScorp

i WANT TO KNOW IF rOVE GOT ANY REPLY AT ALL FROM MSNBC OR ABRAMS.


25 posted on 04/18/2008 2:22:21 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: DesScorp

Ouch!

That left a mark!


26 posted on 04/18/2008 2:33:39 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: DesScorp

Dan Abrams, Dan Rather. Same man, different suit.


27 posted on 04/18/2008 3:22:31 PM PDT by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: DesScorp

Simpson is impossible to miss due to her height and strawberry hair.

Those of us who know of her in college likewise know that she decorated her dorm room and her personal night attire floor to ceiling, head to to toe, in Strawberry Shortcake memorabilia (including sheets and PJ’s).

As for her being a “Republican Operative,” she’s never been at any state, local, or national event, meeting, or work effort for which I’ve attended over the past 14 years here in Alabama...and her friendship with former Governor Siegelman (a Democrat) brings such a claim to the contrary by her into sharp doubt.

but then...I only live/work here. It’s not like I made a phone call from New York as the full extent of some journalistic “reporting” of an Alabama story.

MSNBC needs to research: Truman Capote and his in person interviewing, as none at that channel seem to have picked up such habits in J-School.


28 posted on 04/18/2008 3:31:09 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Congressman Billybob

28 for you


29 posted on 04/18/2008 3:32:21 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: DesScorp

Rove just gave Dan Abrams a slap-down of epic proportions.


30 posted on 04/18/2008 3:32:21 PM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: DesScorp
Yes... I did forget the sarcasm tags.

I just thought that it was assumed that anything associated with Rove is in some way delusionaly illegal.

31 posted on 04/18/2008 4:44:04 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

ping


32 posted on 04/18/2008 5:29:47 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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bookmark


33 posted on 04/18/2008 6:12:43 PM PDT by tapatio
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