Posted on 04/18/2008 8:40:13 AM PDT by cogitator
Summary:
"The average global temperature (land and ocean surface combined) for last month was the 2nd warmest on record for March, while the average temperature for the contiguous U.S. was near average (ranking the 63rd warmest), according to an analysis by NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C."
U.S. Temperature Highlights
"In the contiguous United States, the average temperature for March was 42°F, which was 0.4°F below the 20th century mean, ranking it as the 63rd warmest March on record, based on preliminary data.
Only Rhode Island, New Mexico and Arizona were warmer than average, while near-average temperatures occurred in 39 other states. The monthly temperature for Alaska was the 17th warmest in the 1918-2008 record, with an average temperature 3.8°F above the 1971-2000 mean.
The broad area of near-average temperatures kept the nation's overall temperature-related residential energy demand for March near average, based on NOAA's Residential Energy Demand Temperature Index."
Global Highlights
"The global surface (land and ocean surface) temperature was the 2nd warmest on record for March in the 129-year record, 1.28° F (0.71° C) above the 20th century mean of 54.9° F (12.7° C). The warmest March on record (+1.33° F/0.74° C) occurred in 2002.
The global land surface temperature was the warmest on record for March, 3.3° F (1.8° C) above the 20th century mean of 40.8° F (5.0° C). Temperatures more than 8° F above average covered much of the Asian continent. Two months after the greatest January snow cover extent on record on the Eurasian continent, the unusually warm temperatures led to rapid snow melt, and March snow cover extent on the Eurasian continent was the lowest on record.
Although the ocean surface average was only the 13th warmest on record, as the cooling influence of La Niña in the tropical Pacific continued, much warmer than average conditions across large parts of Eurasia helped push the global average to a near record high for March.
Northern Hemisphere snow cover extent was the fourth lowest on record for March, remaining consistent with boreal spring conditions of the past two decades, in which warming temperatures have contributed to anomalously low snow cover extent.
Some weakening of La Niña, the cold phase of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation, occurred in March, but moderate La Niña conditions remained across the tropical Pacific Ocean."
They’re calling for snow this weekend in Seattle (actually snow and rain mix right now) ....
Once again NOAA shows they are more interested in PR propaganda for the sake of increasing their budget from Congress then serious science.
“The global surface (land and ocean surface) temperature was the 2nd warmest on record for March in the 129-year record”
So we have .0000003% of the Earth’s temperature history to extrapolate into a global warming crisis. lol
You can beat whatever facts you want out of data. Of course we won't hear anything if perhaps February was one of the coldest ever.
Sounds like the Euro-weenies are fudging their data set. And for the record, there is no such meaning to the term "average global temperature" in a nonequilibrium system such as the Earth's atmosphere and oceans. Average temperature only has meaning in a homogeneous system which can reach equilibrium.
63rd "warmest" month is the USA means it one of our COLDEST months in 100 years! Sheeze.......
But of course, those facts are ignored since they do not feed NOAA propaganda line about “Global Warming”.
Wake me up when we get a year warmer than 1998, please. It’s been cooling since then. Did you ask NOAA why CO2 atmospheric concentrations are now falling?
The left wing inner circles when exposed, often reveal some very dangerous anti Amrican a$$holes.
The MSM used to be able to hide these associations. Now we find out who the crazies are, and the whole world can know if they are interested.
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Friday, April 18, 2008 10:43:54 AM · 14 of 17
griswold3 to SJackson
http://holycoast.blogspot.com/2008/04/school-district-fails-economics-while.html
School District Fails Economics While Trying to Save the Planet
The law of unintended consequences hits a planet-friendly school district:
And the movement to convert San Diego schools to solar power has stalled — because it has led to a huge increase in energy costs. The San Diego Union Tribune reports electric bills went up $20,000 a year after solar energy systems were installed in 28 schools. So a plan to put solar in a total of 50 schools has run out of steam.
The administrator who runs the solar project for the Lemon Grove district says schools went solar not just to save money but to provide a lesson in planetary stewardship.
But one school board member says the unanticipated costs have taken money away from the classroom and put it into the hands of the utility companies.
School officials are hoping that an electricity rate change coming in May will work to their favor — but will not propose any more solar panel installations until they see what happens.
With school districts all over the state currently scrambling for enough funds to maintain current programs, perhaps they should disconnect the solar panels and just go back 100% on the grid. They can save the planet another day
odd that the map doesn’t show the snow that killed so many in China
February Temperature Highlights
"February was 61st warmest in the contiguous U.S. and 15th warmest globally on record. For the U.S., the temperature was near average, 0.2°F (0.1°C) above the 20th century average of 34.7°F (1.5°C), which was 2.0°F (1.1°C) warmer than February 2007.
"Globally, the February average temperature was 0.68°F/0.38°C above the 20th century mean of 53.8°F/12.1°C."
Here in north Idaho as well. We are also supposed to set record low and (low) high temperatures as well with teens and twenties overnights.
Noticed that a special weather advisory is out for the Washington coast for unusually (February-like) weather.
The weather service is claiming an inch and a half on the ground this morning, but I have been shoveling and know firsthand it is four inches and still snowing. It is 25, the warmest since Monday.
"Only Rhode Island, New Mexico and Arizona were warmer than average"
61st "warmest" makes it one of the COLDEST!
"Globally, the February average temperature was 0.68°F/0.38°C above the 20th century mean..."
And with an error of margin of plus/minus of 0.75°F (according to James Hansen) that 0.68°F is meaningless.
You missed the point....
Let me try again:
Of course we won’t hear much if some other recent or near future month turns out to be one of the coldest ever.
It was not warmer than average in AZ this March. It was colder than average, and wetter than average. NOAA is out right lying.
Don’t you just love it though? Where’s the weather expert Owlgore now?
I already know why.
Pretty obvious which is wrong. Perhaps they should stop trying to massage the data by mingling the various data sets to validate a preconceived opinion and start concentrating on simply dealing with the facts.
Hard to test your supposition unless we experience an event that could generate such cold temperatures, like a Tambora-class volcanic eruption (or bigger).
Scientists have admitted that they still don’t know what causes El Nino or La Nino...but they know for certain global warming will destroy everything in the next 50-100 years. lol
“Chilling” out?
And the gov’t reported inflation is under control too. We wonder why people have lost faith in our gov’t, this is why. What people are seeing and shoveling is trumped by NOAA. Of course NOAA uses their own data sets, and for some STRANGE reason the numbers our gov’t puts out always seem the most alarmist when it comes to temperatures, but most benign when it comes to inflation.
See http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/PEK150218.htm
For last 3 months (not March), you are correct.
Southern Arizonans always know better than than to listen to the national weather guys, they have no idea how things work down here. Every year they declare the monsoons late in June even though everybody whose lived here a while know the monsoons don’t start until July. I think they picked one year as “average” back in the 50s and it turns out it wasn’t an average year at all, but they just can’t seem to adjust their charts.
Boy is that data fictitious. Below average rainfall for the winter monsoon?! BS. Warmer than average March?! BS. Just plain BS, take all their numbers and reverse them, every last one of those stats for AZ is 100% LIES. Your source is lying to you. It was a cold wet winter, and everybody lives here knows it.
That’s part of the problem with you GW people, you give us data that is 180 degrees opposite of what we’re experiencing outside, then you insist that you’re right. But you’re not right, your source is lying, it was not warmer than average, it was not dryer than average, those are LIES. You should abandon NOAA, they are not to be believed.
Yep. You still missed the point.
Rhetoric isn’t a complex science. You just have to go slowly and think.
I wasn’t predicting a cold month, or any event at all. All I said was that you could beat whatever facts you want out of data; ergo the enviro kooks and their enablers in the media shout from the rooftops when random fluctuations move in their favor, such as a warm month, and ignore the data when the events move in the other direction?
Understand now?
I live in the NH lakes region. We had the 2nd snowiest year in NH history. Last year we had little snow but it was cold for this region, 10 to 15 below Zero, as recorded on my thermometer.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2003531/posts
Seems quite a few people are finding NOAA’s data highly at odds with reality
Northern Hemisphere snow cover extent was the fourth lowest on record for March, remaining consistent with boreal spring conditions of the past two decades, in which warming temperatures have contributed to anomalously low snow cover extent.
Please review below and tell me if you can tell difference in snow cover this year as of yesterday from last year or the year before. As usual the NOAA Hansen/Hthaway crowd is distorting and using their data sets, whci disgree greatly from the other three reputable data sets of global temps. Go to solarcycle24.com and read the real scientists who find those two laughable in their bias.
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=04&fd=17&fy=2007&sm=04&sd=17&sy=2008
the GISS (and RSS would it be plotted) tell a VERY different story. In fact, the GISS satellite temps indicate probably that March was below the 30 year average
Picking NOAA to come to conclusions on global temps is like believing the gov’t when they tell you their is no inflation.
I’m inclined to agree, while SE Texas did not get any hard freezes this years it was one of the coolest winters I remember. Normally we bounce between cold (25-45 north wind blowing) and warm (65-85 south wind blowing) warm days being much more common. This winter was pretty much a constant cool (40 - 65) in fact it is still cool here. So based on my experience I’d said SE Texas was cooler then normal this winter.
Yes, and now April in Alaska will be one of the coldest ever, along with just about the most snow ever. So much for globull warming.
Yes, and now April in Alaska will be one of the coldest ever, along with just about the most snow ever. So much for globull warming.
Hiding most likely ....until the next ‘unusual’ hot spot pops up ....
Atmospheric CO2 is falling at Mauna Loa Observatory for the first time since recording started in 1958. You point to La Nina, El Nino and Phytoplankton blooms. That’s a nice try, but the fact is the cooling of the oceans over the past 5 years is causing atmospheric CO2 to go into solution, just as it has done for eons. The trend is down, temperature and CO2, like I said...........wake me up when we see a year warmer than 1998. methinks it’s going to be some time, I hope you are patient.
And these significant events are important how?
Is this chart supposed to present these storms as something unprecedented?
Really? I went to this site:
Trends in Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide - Mauna Loa
and looked at the graph. I can't post it because it's a PDF. Anyway, I see declines (in the black line; read the description paragraph below) in mid-2004 and mid-2005, and a squiggle in 2006. Now, the red line shows the full seasonal cycle, so it's grossly incorrect to say that atmospheric CO2 is "falling for the first time since recording started in 1958". It falls every year when the Northern Hemisphere greens up in spring. But the black line is more interesting, because seasonally corrected it shows the heightened phytoplankton activity and probably some cold water absorption in the Pacific are slightly lowering the atmospheric CO2 near Mauna Loa right now.
Go to the next graph down and you'll see what's happening globally.
wake me up when we see a year warmer than 1998. methinks it’s going to be some time, I hope you are patient.
It'll happen by 2013.
For the winter I see above normal rainfall over most of Arizona (light green). Before you go blasting at me and NOAA, make sure you're interpreting the charts correctly.
But you’re not right, your source is lying, it was not warmer than average, it was not dryer than average, those are LIES. You should abandon NOAA, they are not to be believed.
I'll take it under advisement.
I knew exactly what you were trying to tell me.
Amen. Amen again. This is ridiculous. It’s as if someone could describe the Sistine Chapel to you by extrapolating what they have seen on a pinpoint under a microscope.
More than anything, apart from the liberal gibberish, this is just very bad science.
Do you have a source for that data? I don't see satellite data at GISTEMP.
They were significant because they happened in March and no, they aren't unprecedented. I just grabbed the image that accompanied the report.
I am interpreting the chart correctly, it says below average rainfall (light brown) for southern AZ. And subsequently the chart is complete BS.
You should do more than take it under advisement, you should understand that NOAA data is fictional, and will be ignored and probably even mocked whenever presented in the future.
Those are funny. We always make fun of how Tucson official temp is the airport because it’s always a couple degrees cooler there.
Post 26 has five charts. Top to bottom, they are:
Temperature: March 2008 Divisional Ranks
Temperature: Departure from normal: 3/1/2008-3/31/2008
Temperature: Jan-Mar 2008 Divisional Ranks
Temperature: Departure from normal: 1/1/2008-3/31/2008
Precipitation: Jan-Mar 2008 Divisional Ranks
The only chart showing precipitation is the last one. There is no light brown in Arizona, though there is in New Mexico. There is yellow (below normal) in southern Arizona, and light green (above normal) over most of northern Arizona.
Note: there is light brown in the Arizona TEMPERATURE chart, the 2nd from the top.
The January-March 2008 temperature map shows below normal temperatures over most of Arizona; less so for New Mexico, where only the northern section is below normal.
So your statement that the winter has been colder and wetter than normal is correct for most of Arizona. March 2008 actually had slightly above normal temperatures; I did not look at March 2008 precipitation.
You should do more than take it under advisement, you should understand that NOAA data is fictional, and will be ignored and probably even mocked whenever presented in the future.
I am now curious if a correct interpretation of the charts, which is in complete accord with your anecdotal observations, changes your opinion at all.
As for the quality of this data, if you have problems with it, NOAA is the agency to complain to. However, I have trouble understanding why %@#!@^ rain gauge data is fictional.
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