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France: Officials put out Olympic torch 3 times (badly traumatized Chicom torch)
AP ^ | 04/07/08 | JEROME PUGMIRE and ELAINE GANLEY

Posted on 04/07/2008 7:58:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Officials put out Olympic torch 3 times

By JEROME PUGMIRE and ELAINE GANLEY, Associated Press Writers

1 hour, 12 minutes ago

Security officials extinguished the Olympic torch three times Monday as protests against China's human rights record turned a relay through Paris into a chaotic series of stops and starts.

Despite massive security, at least two activists got within almost an arm's length of the flame before they were grabbed by police. Officers tackled many protesters and carried off some of them. A protester threw water at the torch but failed to extinguish it and was also taken away.

At the start of the relay, a man identified as a Green Party activist was grabbed by security officers as he headed for 1997 400-meter world champion Stephane Diagana, the president of France's national athletics league, who was carrying the torch from the first floor of the Eiffel Tower. The man was tackled before he got close to Diagana.

The procession continued but, soon after, a crowd of activists waving Tibetan flags interrupted it for the first time by confronting the torchbearer on a road along the Seine River. The demonstrators did not appear to get close to the torch, but its flame was put out by security officers and brought on board a bus to continue along the route.

Less than an hour later, the flame was being carried out of a Paris traffic tunnel by an athlete in a wheelchair when the procession was halted by activists who booed and chanted "Tibet." Once again, the torch was temporarily extinguished and put on a bus despite protesters' apparent failure to get close.

Some 3,000 officers were deployed on motorcycles, in jogging gear and using inline roller skates. Still, police barely stopped the second rush at the torch, and the attempt to extinguish it with water. Other demonstrators scaled the Eiffel Tower and hung a banner depicting the Olympic rings as handcuffs.

The torch was extinguished for the third time when police interrupted the procession as a precaution because they spotted a crowd of demonstrators on a bridge they were approaching.

Police said they did not immediately have a count of the number of arrests. Mireille Ferri, a Green Party official, said she was held by police for two hours because she approached the Eiffel Tower area with a fire extinguisher. In various locations throughout the city, activists angry about China's human rights record and repression Tibet carried Tibetan flags and waved signs reading "the flame of shame."

Riot police squirted tear gas to break up a sit-in protest by about 300 pro-Tibet demonstrators who blocked the torch route.

France's former sports minister, Jean-Francois Lamour, said that though the torch had been put out, the Olympic flame itself still burned in the lantern where it is kept overnight and on airplane flights.

"The torch has been extinguished but the flame is still there," he told France Info radio.

Police had hoped to prevent the chaos that marred the relay in London a day earlier. There, police had repeatedly scuffled with activists angry about China's human rights record leading up to the Beijing Olympics Aug. 8-24. One protester tried to grab the torch; another tried to snuff out the flame with what appeared to be a fire extinguisher. Thirty-seven people were arrested.

In Paris, police had drawn up an elaborate plan to try to keep the torch in a safe "bubble." Torchbearers were encircled by several hundred officers, some in riot police vehicles and on motorcycles, others on skates or on foot. Boats patrolled the Seine River that slices through the French capital, and a helicopter flew overhead.

About 80 athletes had been slated to carry the torch over the 17.4-mile route that started at the Eiffel Tower, heading down the Champs-Elysees avenue toward City Hall, then crosses over the Seine before ending at the Charlety track and field stadium.

Across town, City Hall draped its building with a banner reading, "Paris defends human rights around the world."

One torch bearer, two-time French judo gold medalist David Douillet, told RTL radio that he regretted the choice of China, "because it isn't up to snuff on freedom of expression, on total liberty, and of course, on Olympic values."

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has left open the possibility of boycotting the Olympic opening ceremony in Beijing depending on how the situation evolves in Tibet. Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said Monday that was still the case.

Activists have been protesting along the torch route since the flame embarked on its 85,000-mile journey from Ancient Olympia in Greece to Beijing.

The torch's round-the-world trip is the longest in Olympic history, and it is meant to shine a spotlight on China's economic and political power. Activists have seized upon it as a backdrop for their causes, angering Beijing.

Beijing organizers criticized London's protesters, saying their actions were a "disgusting" form of sabotage by Tibetan separatists.

"The act of defiance from this small group of people is not popular," said Sun Weide, a spokesman for the Beijing Olympic organizing committee. "It will definitely be criticized by people who love peace and adore the Olympic spirit. Their attempt is doomed to failure."

The torch relay also is expected to face demonstrations in San Francisco, New Delhi and possibly elsewhere on its 21-stop, six-continent tour before arriving in mainland China May 4.

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KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; boycottchina; boycottolympics; chicom; china; france; genocide; olympic; olympics; protest; tibet; torch
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Police and security forces surround an athlete as he carries the Olympic torch on the Champs Elysees in Paris April 7, 2008. Eighty Olympic torch relay runners cover 28 km (17 miles) from the Eiffel Tower to the Charlety stadium in the French capital. REUTERS/Benoit Tessier (FRANCE)

Pro-Tibet protestors demonstrate at the Trocadero place opposite the Eiffel tower during the Beijing Olympics flame relay in Paris. Paris city hall has cancelled a ceremony to mark the passge of the Beijing Olympic torch through the French capital, the mayor said. (AFP/POOL/Bertrand Langlois)

Demonstrators shout during the Olympic Torch relay in Paris, Monday April 7, 2008. Chaotic protests against China's human rights policies forced security officials to extinguish the Olympic torch twice during a relay Monday through Paris that became a tortured procession of stops and starts. Poster reads: The Torch in Paris, Guns in Beijing. (AP Photo/Francois Mori)

Pro-Tibet demonstrators and members of the French rights group Reporters Without Borders (RSF) hold banners which show handcuffs in the form of Olympic rings during the Paris leg of the Olympic torch relay April 7, 2008. Protests over China's crackdown on Tibet forced organisers in Paris to put the Olympic torch on a bus on Monday to protect it from demonstrators. Eighty Olympic torch relay runners cover 28 km (17 miles) from the Eiffel Tower to the Charlety stadium in the French capital. REUTERS/Jacky Naegelen (FRANCE) ++ EDITORS NOTE THAT FRENCH LAW REQUIRES THAT FACES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE MASKED IN PUBLICATIONS WITHIN FRANCE ++

Police security run beside the bus where the torch was placed after it set off from the Eiffel Tower in Paris April 7, 2008. Protests over China's crackdown on Tibet forced organisers in Paris to put the Olympic torch on a bus on Monday to protect it from demonstrators. Eighty Olympic torch relay runners cover 28 km (17 miles) from the Eiffel Tower to the Charlety stadium in the French capital. REUTERS/Jacky Naegelen (FRANCE)

1 posted on 04/07/2008 7:58:29 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/07/2008 7:59:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe it’s a sign...


3 posted on 04/07/2008 8:02:01 AM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative (The RINOs think that they have won but we shall see who has the last laugh in '08...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Aside from the obvious basis for these protests, this exercise in Olympic hype must be costing a fortune. These Security people have special Olympic outfits (Probably made in China) and there are veritable armies of them.

Doubt these Olympics will be profitable but that OK with the Chinese. They'll just sell a few more toys to the U.S. and/or charge U.S. media a little more for the coverage. IMO nothing but a commercial extravaganza barely related to the true Olympic Spirit. Again, JMO.

4 posted on 04/07/2008 8:09:20 AM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

French former tennis player Arnaud Di Pasquale reacts as he carries an extinguished Beijing Olympics flame in Paris. Pro-Tibet activists have disrupted the Paris relay of the Beijing Olympic torch, clashing with police and three times forcing torchbearers to extinguish the flame and take refuge on a bus.

5 posted on 04/07/2008 8:13:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I suppose if people were ‘really’ upset about China and human rights

they would quit buying ANYTHING from China.

Dollars, or lack thereof, speak louder than a bucket of water on some poor old (local) dude carrying some cheezy torch.

But, that’s just me.


6 posted on 04/07/2008 8:14:58 AM PDT by ASOC (I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
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To: All

Anyone see any ROP youths here burning things.

I didn’t either.


7 posted on 04/07/2008 8:20:34 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Typical white man.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
News from

Wonderful pictures:

This Chinese official is obviously not amused about his extinguished torch.

Where has the flame gone??! ;)

Vive la France!

8 posted on 04/07/2008 8:21:06 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Stupid torch. I hate the Olympics.


9 posted on 04/07/2008 8:24:47 AM PDT by gunservative
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To: Atlantic Bridge

Are those guys carrying the torch supposed to be athletes? They look more like military types.


10 posted on 04/07/2008 8:26:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Some 3,000 officers were deployed on motorcycles, in jogging gear and using inline roller skates. Still, police barely stopped the second rush at the torch, and the attempt to extinguish it with water. Other demonstrators scaled the Eiffel Tower and hung a banner depicting the Olympic rings as handcuffs.

3000 to guard a freakin flame going to a communist regime. PATHETIC.

11 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:23 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge; Army Air Corps; TigersEye

Great photos - this Olympics needs to be boycotted. I’ve started by stopping my consumption of Coke - an unrepentant sponsor of the Peiping Genocide Olympics 2008.

I’ve also stopped patronizing WalMart - the biggest booster for the PLA. Yep - it hurts the pocket but this is a small sacrifice that I can do to protest against the coddling of the ChiCom tyrants and their enablers.

Thanks for the ping - tiger likes rooster


12 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:32 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Atlantic Bridge
LOL. Cops are really wearing Rollerblades.:-)
13 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:54 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: All

Excuze moi! If you are trying to be one of those muslum youths, shouldn't that me lit?

14 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:59 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Typical white man.)
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To: mewzilla
Are those guys carrying the torch supposed to be athletes? They look more like military types.

They are watchdogs from China.

15 posted on 04/07/2008 8:29:06 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
China is in a world of hurt when the European Socialist and American Conservatives agree!

I would encourage Bush to not attend the opening ceremonies but attend the games. The opening ceremony is for the Country and the games are for the Athletes.

16 posted on 04/07/2008 8:29:34 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)
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To: ASOC

” ...quit buying ANYTHING from China.”

NO WAY! Where else would I get freezeproof toothpaste?


17 posted on 04/07/2008 8:32:28 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: TigerLikesRooster
LOL. Cops are really wearing Rollerblades.:-)

Yeah! And it didn't help at all.

BTW - there are also funny pics from London on the net, where demonstrators used fire extinguishers. Very impressing.

18 posted on 04/07/2008 8:34:03 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
Thanks for posting the photos. They are great.
I will look for London pictures if I have time.:-)
19 posted on 04/07/2008 8:37:33 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: 11th Commandment

I agree. There are people how have been training their entire life for this one moment and I would hate to see us pull a Jimmy Carter and take that opportunity from them. I would just skip the opening ceremonies.

Or maybe march in with a Tibetan flag. That would be funny.


20 posted on 04/07/2008 8:39:55 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; EarthBound

Viva France!


21 posted on 04/07/2008 8:40:47 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: JZelle

You do know that it’s the lead that keeps it from freezing.


22 posted on 04/07/2008 8:41:31 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: SunkenCiv; cardinal4; Darksheare; MARKUSPRIME; driftdiver; kevin_in_so_cal; jmc813; NZerFromHK; ...

You might enjoy these photos. The ChiComs are being taken to task by the people even if their governments are refusing to acknowledge the ongoing genocide that is happening all over China.


23 posted on 04/07/2008 8:41:37 AM PDT by indcons
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To: TigerLikesRooster

One protester was heard to say “I’ve had that “Free Tibet” bumpersticker on three different cars but today was the first time I really felt like I accomplished something”


24 posted on 04/07/2008 8:41:48 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Lretty soon the UK bookies will be giving odds on which country will see the torch extinguished the most and also over-under odds on the number of times extinguished in the upcoming countries.


25 posted on 04/07/2008 8:44:36 AM PDT by rod1 (uestion)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

> “The act of defiance from this small group of people is not popular,” said Sun Weide, a spokesman for the Beijing Olympic organizing committee.

Tell that to the French, Mr Sun Weide. Tell it to the French. Defiance? Is that what Protest is called in your tin-pot Dictatorship? Defiance?

Vive le Defiance, then!

> “It will definitely be criticized by people who love peace

Like the Tibetans, f’r’instance?

> and adore the Olympic spirit.

Like drug-cheating and institutionalized corruption, you mean? *That’s* the Olympic Spirit, mate!

> Their attempt is doomed to failure.”

We’ll see. We’ll see.

MESSAGE TO THE FREE FRENCH FROM FREEDOM CommandCentral in Aotearoa New Zealand: Nothing less than the immortal words of that great British Patriot, Mr Punch:

“That’s the way to do it! That’s the way to do it!”

Well done. Vive la France Libre! Vive la Tibet Libre! Vive la Chine Libre!

That is all. As you were.
*DieHard the Hunter*


26 posted on 04/07/2008 8:45:34 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
One torch bearer, two-time French judo gold medalist David Douillet, told RTL radio that he regretted the choice of China, "because it isn't up to snuff on freedom of expression, on total liberty, and of course, on Olympic values."

Huh?? Then why participate as a torch bearer?

27 posted on 04/07/2008 8:45:36 AM PDT by elli1
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In London the good ones worked with fire extinguishers. :)

28 posted on 04/07/2008 8:47:54 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: CougarGA7

“Or maybe march in with a Tibetan flag. That would be funny.”

That would be bloody brilliant! I also think that Bush should go, and make a very big, very public stink about Tibet, and show the Chicoms that if they want to save face, they should keep their face away from chain saws.


29 posted on 04/07/2008 8:50:25 AM PDT by Humble Servant ( Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: CougarGA7

I thought it was the antifreeze.


30 posted on 04/07/2008 8:51:00 AM PDT by Humble Servant ( Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
I hope somebody up the ante and actually steals the torch, not just extinguishing its flame. I know they have backup torches, but it would be still great.
31 posted on 04/07/2008 8:53:24 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

LOL...

It just gets worse and worse — for Beijing!

I imagine there is a whole pisspot of pissed off commies in China tonight!


32 posted on 04/07/2008 8:54:19 AM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Can’t wait-it gets to San Francisco this Wednesday.


33 posted on 04/07/2008 8:55:27 AM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: Ronin
It must pains them to no end that they cannot handle this mess in good-ol’ fashioned Chicom way.:-)
34 posted on 04/07/2008 8:57:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Humble Servant
I thought it was the antifreeze.

What?! Now they are making lead based antifreeze? How will I know what killed the neighbor's dog?

35 posted on 04/07/2008 8:57:26 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Good afternoon. What is the New Zealand governments position on Tibet?


36 posted on 04/07/2008 9:05:13 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I need a Sarcasm tag?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Backup torches?

Tu es sûr?

Attiser la flamme olympique:

Just exchange "flags" with "torches".

37 posted on 04/07/2008 9:10:23 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (Avoid boring people!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ah, the French. The Frogs lie down in the face of the Muslim invasion, but are willing to go to war over a symbolic torch. Priorities, people!


38 posted on 04/07/2008 9:15:45 AM PDT by Tarkus2040 ("Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about." --Barry Farber)
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To: tanuki
Can’t wait-it gets to San Francisco this Wednesday.

This may be the only time in my life I'll ever get to say this...

Give 'em hell, San Francisco. I hope every veteran protestor on the west coast shows up.

I only wish the torch was coming through Texas, or some other conservative state, so we could show them that conservatives know how to throw a good protest too.
39 posted on 04/07/2008 9:23:59 AM PDT by LonghornFreeper
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To: cardinal4

> Good afternoon. What is the New Zealand governments position on Tibet?

The New Zealand Government today signed a Free Trade Agreement with China. That speaks volumes about New Zealand’s “official” position on Tibet: Helen will make muted squeals about “Human Rights” but nothing concrete or of substance. Same deal with Taiwan.


40 posted on 04/07/2008 9:42:29 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
The New Zealand Government today signed a Free Trade Agreement with China.

Welcome to the club. The sell-out of your country by the politicos, lobbyists and business executives in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I'm a *fair* trade capitalist and nationalist. "Free trade" is a term created by globalists in pursuit of maximum profit, no matter the cost. They'll be the first bastards to leave your country when the sh*t hits the fan.

41 posted on 04/07/2008 10:10:31 AM PDT by Tarkus2040 ("Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about." --Barry Farber)
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To: Tarkus2040

> Welcome to the club. The sell-out of your country by the politicos, lobbyists and business executives in pursuit of the almighty dollar. I’m a *fair* trade capitalist and nationalist. “Free trade” is a term created by globalists in pursuit of maximum profit, no matter the cost. They’ll be the first bastards to leave your country when the sh*t hits the fan.

Very, very true, and you would think in NZ we would have learned that by now. Where are all of our hi-flying capitalists from the 1980’s and 1990’s? That’s easy — they have moved, with their capital, overseas. Those that remain have moved their manufacturing plant and other assets... overseas.

Crikey! Our politicians think we are dumb. I guess we might well be — we keep returning the same turkeys over and over and over again.

One day we might learn, but that day has yet to arrive!

God Defend New Zealand in the meanwhile.

*DieHard*


42 posted on 04/07/2008 10:42:17 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: CougarGA7

I agree with you. Politics will overrun the Olympics, though. The movement will not rest until it has ruined the Olympics. I’m sad about that. I watched as atheletes that had finally gotten their once-in-a-lifetime chance to compete have it dashed by Carter.

What did we gain from boycotting the Moscow Olympics? Nothing, absolutely nothing. And yet people want to follow the same course. The Olympics should not be political but it always is.


43 posted on 04/07/2008 11:31:43 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Ronin
It just gets worse and worse — for Beijing!

and the athletes

44 posted on 04/07/2008 11:33:23 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

I wish we could keep the politics out of the Olympics. But unfortunately you right, it always is political. That aside, I just don’t think the athletes should have to pay for the IOC’s poor judgement.


45 posted on 04/07/2008 11:38:06 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: 11th Commandment

Exactly. Sarkozy and Merkel won´t attend the ceremony - only PM Brown. Prove you have balls, Mr. President and let the Chicoms eat rice!


46 posted on 04/07/2008 12:44:21 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: LonghornFreeper

“This may be the only time in my life I’ll ever get to say this... “

LOL! I hope it was good for you! I wish it were run through part of real America too, but I’m sure it will be a show.


47 posted on 04/07/2008 1:39:35 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

Hey, isn’t it in the IOC rulebook somewhere that if the torch goes out at anytime while in transit, then they have to start all over again back in Athens?


48 posted on 04/07/2008 2:42:47 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: BJungNan

It’s heartless of me to say this, but denying Beijing a propaganda coup on the lines of the 1936 Berlin Olympics is more important than whether or not the athletes get their feelings hurt.

The games will go on. The athletes will compete. Some will get their medals.

It was Beijing’s decision to try and turn the torch run into a long-playing extravaganza showing the world how wonderful China is. Well, if you want respect from the civilized world, it’s a good idea to act civilized.

Beijing isn’t, people notice, and are calling them on it.

Tough.


49 posted on 04/07/2008 2:45:13 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: BJungNan

It’s heartless of me to say this, but denying Beijing a propaganda coup on the lines of the 1936 Berlin Olympics is more important than whether or not the athletes get their feelings hurt.

The games will go on. The athletes will compete. Some will get their medals.

It was Beijing’s decision to try and turn the torch run into a long-playing extravaganza showing the world how wonderful China is. Well, if you want respect from the civilized world, it’s a good idea to act civilized.

Beijing isn’t, people notice, and are calling them on it.

Tough.


50 posted on 04/07/2008 2:58:29 PM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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