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Truckers Protest High Fuel Prices, Clog NJ Turnpike
Yahoo News ^ | 1 April 08 | None

Posted on 04/01/2008 5:16:53 PM PDT by SkyPilot

RIDGEFIELD, N.J. -- Truckers angry about the high price of fuel staged a rolling protest on Tuesday, using their big rigs to slow traffic to a crawl on the New Jersey Turnpike.

The protest was part of a loosely organized nationwide effort by independent truckers to draw attention to the high prices they face.

On the Turnpike, southbound rigs "as far as the eye can see" slowed to about 20 mph near Newark around lunchtime -- jamming traffic on one of the nation's most heavily traveled highways.

State Police said several drivers were issued tickets as troopers broke up the slowdowns.

At a Turnpike rest area in North Jersey, about 200 truck drivers carried signs and protested high fuel prices.

"The gas prices are too high," said one of them, Lamont Newberne, a 34-year-old trucker from Wilmington, N.C. "We don't make enough money to pay our bills and take care of our family."

Newberne said a typical run carrying produce from Lakeland, Fla., to the Hunt's Point Market in The Bronx, N.Y., had cost $600 to $700 a year ago. It now runs him $1,000.

Some truckers, on CB radios and trucking Web sites, had called for a strike Tuesday to protest the high cost of diesel fuel, saying the action might pressure President Bush to stabilize prices by using the nation's oil reserves. But the protests were scattered because major trucking companies were not on board and there did not appear to be any central coordination.

Outside Chicago, three truck drivers were ticketed for impeding traffic on Interstate 55, driving three abreast at low speeds, said Illinois State Police Master Sgt. Luis Gutierrez.

Near Florida's Port of Tampa, more than 50 tractor-trailer rigs sat idle as their drivers demanded that contractors pay them more to cover their fuel and other costs.

Echoing Newberne, many truckers said they can't support their family on what they make.

"We can no longer haul their stuff for what they're paying," said David Santiago, 35, a trucker for the past 17 years. "If it wasn't for my wife, we would have been bankrupt already," Santiago said.

Charles Rotenbarger, 49, a trucker from Columbus, Ohio, said he felt helpless.

"The oil company is the boss, what are we going to be able to do about it?" said Rotenbarger, who was at a truck stop at Baldwin, Fla., about 20 miles west of Jacksonville. "The whole world economy is going to be controlled by the oil companies. There's nothing we can do about it."

Jimmy Lowry, 51, of St. Petersburg, Fla., and others said it costs about $1 a mile to drive one of the big rigs, although some companies are offering as little as 87 cents a mile. Diesel cost $4.03 a gallon at the Jacksonville-area truck stop.

Teamsters union officials said they had nothing to do with any kind of protests. An independent truck drivers group, the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, said it also was not organizing anything. Federal law prohibits the association from calling for a strike because it is a trade association.

In Washington, meanwhile, top executives of the five biggest U.S. oil companies said Tuesday they know high fuel prices are hurting consumers but deflected any blame and argued their profits -- $123 billion last year -- were in line with other industries.

Dan Little, a cattle hauler in Carrolton, Mo., said he stopped working Tuesday and would likely remain idle the rest of the week in support of fellow truckers striking in Georgia. He said he's gotten around 50 phone calls and 100 e-mails from fellow Missouri truckers also stopping Tuesday. "We are trying desperately to send a message to Washington to open your eyes to the disaster going on in this industry," said Little, who wants Congress to suspend fuel taxes on diesel fuel for Class A trucks.


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This issue is going to doom the Republicans in the next election if oil prices do not stabilize or go down.

There are many factors at work as to why oil prices are spinning out of control - none of them matter much to people who are losing their livelihood or business because of them.

I know a great guy, mid-50s, honest, family man, staunch Christian. He bought his own rig last year after saving for years.

Now, he cannot affort to operate it, and he cannot sell it. He calls it a very expensive piece of scrap iron.

A woman I work with drives over 200 miles each day to and from work. Between tolls and gas, she cannot afford to work with us anymore.

And if you all think food prices are going up at a steep rate now, just wait until next year.

If the GOP wants to lost Congress and the Presidency, they are poised to inherit all the blame for out of control gas and fuel prices. The MSM will make sure of it.

1 posted on 04/01/2008 5:16:53 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Now, he cannot affort to operate it, and he cannot sell it. He calls it a very expensive piece of scrap iron

I am in no way justifying the cost of fuel. We clearly need more refineries and more drilling. But, the cost of fuel is an operation expense. Your friend needs to charge more to cover the cost. It's not like the competition doesn't need to cover the same cost for the same fuel.

2 posted on 04/01/2008 5:20:20 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: SkyPilot
Bush's Faulttm
3 posted on 04/01/2008 5:21:49 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: chaos_5
I agree - and I don't know that business. But he tells me he can't get the business he needs. Perhaps people won't accept the higher prices, or the larger trucking companies can afford to charge less than private owners.

In any event, high oil prices are killing average American families. The Republicans will ignore this huge problem to their political peril.

The GOP has to hammer away at the Democrats and environmentalists for blocking drilling in places like ANWR and for blocking the building of new refineries.

It is true that untold wealth is being amassed by Arab oil producing nations. It is a shame so much of our wealth is going to a bunch of Muslim nations who hate us.


4 posted on 04/01/2008 5:28:41 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: SkyPilot

I’m with the truckers in spirit.


5 posted on 04/01/2008 5:28:50 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: SkyPilot
If the GOP wants to lost Congress and the Presidency, they are poised to inherit all the blame for out of control gas and fuel prices. The MSM will make sure of it.

You are correct. Our government cannot control oil prices, but the average american will vote with their wallet anyway, because that is what they have always done.

Can We say "President Hussein Obama'?

I hope not, but that's what it is coming to.
6 posted on 04/01/2008 5:29:23 PM PDT by lmr (The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
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To: chaos_5
Exactly. And if it is now cheaper to perform long haul shipping by train than by truck, then more of the cargo should go by train.

As an added benefit if there was more cargo going by rail, then it might actually make long haul passenger rail more cost-effective.

There are companies who are trying to add passenger cars to freight trains, but these plans don't make sense if there are not enough trains traveling from Point A to Point B.

If there is a continuous amount of rail traffic moving along the tracks, then passenger cars can be added and people can be guaranteed acceptable schedules, travel time, and pricing.

7 posted on 04/01/2008 5:30:12 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I love traveling by train.
susie


8 posted on 04/01/2008 5:31:39 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: SkyPilot
Anyone know who is organizing this?

Their calls for depleting the strategic oil reserves sound awfully familiar.

9 posted on 04/01/2008 5:34:20 PM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: SkyPilot
The liberals and thier conservationist radicals are preventing us from stabilizing the market. WE NEED TO DRILL OFF SHORE AND ON OUR OWN LANDS NOW!
10 posted on 04/01/2008 5:35:17 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: ronnie raygun
"The liberals and thier conservationist radicals are preventing us from stabilizing the market. WE NEED TO DRILL OFF SHORE AND ON OUR OWN LANDS NOW!"

......instead, the rat basterd politicians on both sides of the aisle are handing over the economy to the federal reserve which is a consortium of foreign entities who do not have Americas best interest as a priority.

God help us.

11 posted on 04/01/2008 5:44:24 PM PDT by KTM rider (McCain '08, ....better than the alternative)
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To: SkyPilot

A friend of mine just sold his rig. After his last run, after expenses he cleared $39.00. Independent truckers don’t have a chance.


12 posted on 04/01/2008 5:45:32 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: SkyPilot
"This issue is going to doom the Republicans in the next election if oil prices do not stabilize or go down. There are many factors at work as to why oil prices are spinning out of control - none of them matter much to people who are losing their livelihood or business because of them."

No, actually there's only ONE factor at work. The choke-hold that the "Green" faction of the Socialst party has on increasing the production of domestic oil and gas, by drilling in Alaska, and offshore of both Florida and California.

If these damn-fool truckers think differently, then they are idiots. And all these "slow-down" tactics do is piss off the section of the public who would normally be sympathetic to them. There is not one thing preventing truckers from driving a uniform 55 mph if they wish---no laws or regulations on speed limits are needed.

13 posted on 04/01/2008 5:47:30 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: SkyPilot
The GOP has to hammer away at the Democrats and environmentalists for blocking drilling in places like ANWR and for blocking the building of new refineries.

The GOP held the White House, The Senate and The House from 2001-2007 and could not pass a bill to drill in ANWR.

14 posted on 04/01/2008 5:51:18 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Railroads are good but they don’t go everywhere. Trucks are still needed to move freight.


15 posted on 04/01/2008 5:51:48 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Old Sarge

Polar bears and caribou!


16 posted on 04/01/2008 5:53:33 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: SkyPilot
The fastest way to decrease the price of gas is for the Federal Reserve Bank to increase short term interest rates.

However, that will wreak even more havoc in the housing market.

So which do you prefer, expensive gas or higher mortgage defaults?

Let's not forget that we are now on a path to increase the use of food for fuel. Ironically, this is what the automobile was created to stop! At the turn of the 20th century, the demand for personal transportation was going up as were the number of horses. Horses required so much "fuel" that more and more arable land was going to feed horses. And the "pollution" required an army of street cleaners in major cities.

Thankfully, the internal combustion engine came to our rescue!

It's dejavu all over again.

 

17 posted on 04/01/2008 5:56:26 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: SkyPilot

Why don’t they shut off all truck shipments in and out of Washington DC. That’ll get the dumbass politicians excited.


18 posted on 04/01/2008 5:57:47 PM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: SkyPilot
Wait until the truckers clog the highways around D.C. You ain't seen anything yet . . .

They did it back when Jimmy Carter was in the White House. Truckers will do it again. The Teamsters hate Bush. Get out your popcorn, people! This is an election year.

19 posted on 04/01/2008 5:58:22 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: GVnana
"Anyone know who is organizing this? Their calls for depleting the strategic oil reserves sound awfully familiar.

from what I heard is is not organized and is just whipped up in CB radio land.

Over the road trucking is a subculture within america tied together mostly through CB radio communication. The trucking companies throw into lobbyist groups who act like they support the independent when in reality they try to sqeeze them out to maximize corporate profits for the mega transportation entities like Pepsico, etc

20 posted on 04/01/2008 6:02:14 PM PDT by KTM rider (McCain '08, ....better than the alternative)
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To: KTM rider

then they throw down a lean bone to the independent like a $300 load from Miami to Bozeman MT


21 posted on 04/01/2008 6:04:15 PM PDT by KTM rider (McCain '08, ....better than the alternative)
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To: KTM rider

come to think of it, this whole ridiculous diesel fuel price scam could be a conspiracy to finally kill off every last independent and replace them with illegal alien harbor container truckers


22 posted on 04/01/2008 6:07:14 PM PDT by KTM rider (McCain '08, ....better than the alternative)
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To: o_zarkman44
I agree that trucks are needed for short hauls, but if all or most of the long haul traffic goes to trains that would be fine by me.

Containers make it easy to automatically move cargo from ships to trains, and from trains to other trains.

There is no longer a major cost of loading and unloading.

They can even move trucks by train, and have vehicles that have one set of wheels for rail and one set of wheels for the road.

When the NAFTA fans finally get their way and allow Mexican truckers to roam wild and free throughout the US, there will no longer be any jobs for American long haul truckers anyway.

Better that the traffic go by train freeing up some highway space, minimizing the stress on our highway system, and minimizing the threat of Jihadi truck bombs.

23 posted on 04/01/2008 6:09:14 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SkyPilot

We feel for the independent truckers.

They may have borrowed too much money with too little money down ( sound familiar ? ).

If he can not pass on his expenses plus make a decent profit, he should do something else.

Harsh, but better than also losing his home, next.

” I agree - and I don’t know that business. But he tells me he can’t get the business he needs.”


If we must have an investigation, how about investigating the extent to which government regulations drive up prices and block new production?

Profit is “whatever government lets a company keep.”

But most folks have a vastly inflated view of corporate profits. One regular survey of Americans found that the majority believes the average corporate profit is between 30 percent and 40 percent of sales, while the real figure is less than what the government takes in taxes and fees.


24 posted on 04/01/2008 6:10:11 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

> If he can not pass on his expenses plus make a decent
> profit, he should do something else. Harsh, but
> better than also losing his home, next.

~How~ can one plan for gas to go from $2 to $4 in months? That’s something that they probably could not foresee when “writing their business plans”. How can a private trucker employ risk mitigation and/or buy in bulk?!

> They may have borrowed too much money with
> too little money down ( sound familiar ? )

Does the individual trucker have someone to analyze oil futures?! Several small firms, those that are /bigger/ than just owner-operators, have shut down in some parts of the country.

Personally, I think your point of view is unreasonable.

Yes, some (many?!) will have to get out of the business now - but I can’t agree with the implication that it’s their fault!


25 posted on 04/01/2008 6:54:52 PM PDT by mbj
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To: Incorrigible

That’s pretty funny.


26 posted on 04/01/2008 6:55:29 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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To: thackney; M. Espinola; Candor7
Are these accurate ?

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27 posted on 04/01/2008 7:02:42 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: mbj
Rising costs can hurt anyone. There are ways to minimize risk of surprises. An independent trucker is likely unable ( assets, knowledge...) to hedge his future energy costs.

Hopefully he did...but probably did not have written a business plan nor a long term budget.

How~ can one plan for gas to go from $2 to $4 in months? That’s something that they probably could not foresee when “writing their business plans”. How can a private trucker employ risk mitigation and/or buy in bulk?!

28 posted on 04/01/2008 7:10:07 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SkyPilot
I was reading this link http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/truckers_clog_turnpike_to_prot.html, which I Googled from your original post.

The comments following the article show clearly how the educational system has been destroyed in this country. Half the people commenting haven't got a clue.

"The evil oil companies" - LOL!

29 posted on 04/01/2008 7:10:29 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: SkyPilot

Shades of 35 years ago.

What we need is a remake of ‘Convoy’ with Kris Kristofferson.

Then, again, maybe if he does a remake of ‘Sunday Morning Sidewalk’ that would be better.

Park the sob until economic conditions improve!

None of us, who don’t work for the governments’ have a guarantee in this like.


30 posted on 04/01/2008 7:11:03 PM PDT by x1stcav (McCain for President. Or we're <i>really</i> screwed.)
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To: SkyPilot
I predicted several years ago that the politicians had buried the needle on the tax-o-meter, and that they'd have to start raising the price on necessities in order to continue robbing us blind without a revolt.

It appears as though I was right - with a vengeance. What kind of fricking idiot would let diesel get over $4 a gallon?

Our good buddies in Congress - the same idiots who were grilling Roger Clemens while the subprime market was imploding.

31 posted on 04/01/2008 7:15:20 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: mbj
It may or it may not be his fault. That really does not matter now.

I hope that he finds some relief . Perhaps his customers will pay a fuel surcharge ?

If not, decisions available now may be terrible. Holding on to his home might be the first priority ( looking into the future).

Emptying his retirement accounts, maximizing his credit cards, taking a big line of credit on his home...may be worse than losing his truck. The firms that you mention apparently have made that unhappy conclusion.

Several small firms, those that are /bigger/ than just owner-operators, have shut down in some parts of the country.

.

32 posted on 04/01/2008 7:22:47 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: trumandogz
The GOP held the White House, The Senate and The House from 2001-2007 and could not pass a bill to drill in ANWR.

You're just saying that 'cause it's true...

Hey, at least they permanently fixed the AMT, and made the Bush tax cuts permanent also...

33 posted on 04/01/2008 7:23:45 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: george76
They look comletely accurate. But then in the UK, gas costs about $10.00 per gallon. We still got low prices.
34 posted on 04/01/2008 7:27:09 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

and of course this will make it much easier for terrorists to take out a crap load of people again all at one time!!!


35 posted on 04/01/2008 7:31:15 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: SkyPilot
Yet the truckers continue to both blame and vote for the wrong people, as well as advocate short-term solutions.

Amazing.

36 posted on 04/01/2008 7:31:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Candor7

The gas taxes in Europe are terrible.

Fortunately for them, the distances there are smaller than ours.


37 posted on 04/01/2008 7:33:40 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SkyPilot
This issue is going to doom the Republicans in the next election if oil prices do not stabilize or go down.

The cool-aide drinking mccain crowd don't give a rats ass. And neither does the republican party, the lobbyists from Con Agra and Monsanto are calling the shots.

38 posted on 04/01/2008 7:34:25 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

trains are great for bulk material that can be delivered whenever,like coal,but trains are pretty much clogged up with the freight they already have and building new track is almost impossible.
The truckers deliver quick to any point,nothing else will work for that purpose. The truckers are in serious trouble,but don’t worry,we all are in trouble,America functions on cheap fuel,oil and coal are it. When their price goes up due to mainly a worthless dollar added with the socialist dreams of America running on some environmentally suitable fuel,we all are in trouble.We better drill and mine or plan on riding horses to work and sleep when it gets dark because of electricity shortages.


39 posted on 04/01/2008 7:40:07 PM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: Incorrigible
Good point. In Washington State, one county used to grow nothing but oats for the horses in Seattle. Now it's peas and potatoes.
40 posted on 04/01/2008 7:41:02 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: SkyPilot
I know, congress could block all drilling in Alaska, off the coast of Florida, and on all Federal owned lands. The they could pass environmental laws and safety rules that would prohibit the construction of new refineries, coal and nuclear powered power plants.

What do you think?

41 posted on 04/01/2008 7:52:22 PM PDT by kempo (H)
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To: KTM rider
Over the road trucking is a subculture within america tied together mostly through CB radio communication. The trucking companies throw into lobbyist groups who act like they support the independent when in reality they try to sqeeze them out to maximize corporate profits for the mega transportation entities like Pepsico, etc

Any unionizing activites going on?

42 posted on 04/01/2008 8:14:10 PM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Do you know why you get fresh food in the stores? Trucks, that’s why. It used to take me and another guy 44 hours to drive from Los Angelos to Miami. That produce wasn’t more than 60 hours old since it had been picked.

Try that with a train and you’ll be looking at food that is two weeks old. You should be happy with that, I suppose.


43 posted on 04/01/2008 8:26:44 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Rope, Tree & Traitor; Some Assembly Required || Gun Control Means Never Having To Say I Missed You)
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To: investigateworld

 

 

44 posted on 04/01/2008 8:31:54 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: george76

Where in the HECK is gasoline being sold for 2.45 a gallon in March of 08? Georgia is one of the cheapest states and it’s 3.50 a gallon here. Milk is nearly $5. $6 in some stores!


45 posted on 04/01/2008 8:32:41 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Candor7

They look comletely accurate. But then in the UK, gas costs about $10.00 per gallon. We still got low prices.

***************************

$10 a gallon? You mean 5 pounds or so? If that is the case, you have to compare the weaker dollar against it. Back in the 30’s in Germany a gallon of milk probably cost 24000 in Marcs(sp).

However, they do not have the drive that most in the US have. To transport from docks or airports to homes.


46 posted on 04/01/2008 8:36:41 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: ex-Texan; george76
What will happen once diesel fuel climbs over $5 a gallon?

Truckers Angered Over Fuel Prices, Even If Not Striking

Truckers strike against increasing fuel prices

47 posted on 04/01/2008 9:12:08 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: Southerngl

Taxes...


48 posted on 04/01/2008 9:17:58 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SkyPilot
> A woman I work with drives over 200 miles each day to and from work. Between tolls and gas, she cannot afford to work with us anymore.

Huh? Is this for real?

Whatever...

1997 Honda Civic HX 5 speed

$16 bucks each way.

49 posted on 04/01/2008 11:17:54 PM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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To: Incorrigible
At the turn of the 20th century, approximately 30% of the arable land in the US went to providing feed for horses and mules.
50 posted on 04/01/2008 11:55:20 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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