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USA 2008: The Great Depression (Barf Alert)
The Independent | April 1, 2008 | David Usborne

Posted on 03/31/2008 8:20:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Cannot be posted due to copyright issues: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/usa-2008-the-great-depression-803095.html


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: Michigan; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: automotiveindustry; business; depression; economy; foodstamps; illegalaliens; illegals; inflation; joblessness; leftyeuropropaganda; manufacturing; recession; rustbelt; unemployment
Aren't they gleeful? I think some Europeans hate us more than the Taliban does.
1 posted on 03/31/2008 8:20:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Link to story: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/usa-2008-the-great-depression-803095.html


2 posted on 03/31/2008 8:20:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just quickly checked and the UK’s unemployment rate appears to be higher than America’s “depression-level” unemployment rate . . . and I’m guessing that a greater percentage of the British population is on the dole to boot . . .


3 posted on 03/31/2008 8:22:20 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Look at how impoverished New Yorkers have become. I had no idea it was this bad on Wall Street:


"Disadvantaged Americans queue for aid in New York"

4 posted on 03/31/2008 8:28:07 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here in AZ there are numerous Hispanic families who get food stamps via electronic swipe card. The DES (Department Of Economic Security) issues them to people if they meet the requisite criteria. I’ve seen these families at supermarkets. They don’t look like they’re starving.


5 posted on 03/31/2008 8:30:03 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the countrywide unemployment rate hits 25%, then the eurosnobs have the right to bitch at us about a depression. Until then, STFU.


6 posted on 03/31/2008 8:35:04 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the countrywide unemployment rate hits 25%, then the eurosnobs have the right to bitch at us about a depression. Until then, STFU.


7 posted on 03/31/2008 8:35:58 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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Worth repeating


8 posted on 03/31/2008 8:45:40 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: iowamark

Most of the people in that line don’t LOOK like Americans. They are mostly illegals, and the permanent homeless. Permanent homeless should be in gov’t sponsored mental facilities, in my opinon, and looked after.


9 posted on 03/31/2008 8:58:37 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's about the most bearish newspaper that I've seen in the 27 years I've been following this stuff.

If the past is prologue, the Dow should be 20,000 by November.

(I'm too lazy to look, but I think the US has the second lowest unemployment in the G8, after Japan.)

10 posted on 03/31/2008 9:00:39 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The gubmint ADVERTISES on radio, looking to get more people on food stamps! I hear the ads on Boston radio stations all the time.


11 posted on 03/31/2008 9:01:53 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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12 posted on 03/31/2008 9:06:15 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Aren't they gleeful? I think some Europeans hate us more than the Taliban does.

I think the reporter is both lazy and stupid. Although it's unclear which characteristic is dominant.

Article: "They should be refilling it in the next three or four days," Liepnieks says. At times, he admits, he and friends bargain with owners of the smaller grocery shops to trade the value of their cards for cash, although it is illegal. "It can be done. I get $7 back on $10."

Sounds like this guy is using food stamps to buy liquor and/or drugs.

Article: "Last St Patrick's Day, we were selling Irish soda bread for $1.99. This year it was $2.99. Prices are just spiralling up, because of the cost of gas trucking the food into the city and because of commodity prices. People complain, but I tell them it's not my fault everything is more expensive."

In New York City, a 22 oz loaf of store brand (C-Town) white bread is $1.29. Shelf life is about a week.

Article: The US Department of Agriculture says the cost of feeding a low-income family of four has risen 6 per cent in 12 months.

In the UK, salaries are the same as American ones, but expenses are twice as high. This means rent, groceries, etc. Eating out is usually triple the cost in New York City.

Like I said, this reporter is stupid and lazy.

13 posted on 03/31/2008 9:12:04 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: iowamark
Look at how impoverished New Yorkers have become. I had no idea it was this bad on Wall Street:

I am gonna guess you're joking. This looks like the Bronx, or maybe Brooklyn. It might be Harlem, but it's definitely not Wall Street.

14 posted on 03/31/2008 9:15:03 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: iowamark

The article’s ultimate measure of poverty is the supposed 28 million Americans that “need” foodstamps to “survive”. I don’t have the energy to dissect the various levels of disingenious in the article. Needless to say many if not most foodstamps are going to those that don’t deserve them due to dishonest declarations of poverty. There are truly some people in desperate situations that need some food stamp assistance but the vast majority of food stamps are given to people that are either purposely or ineptibly part of an ever-repeating cycle of government dependency.


15 posted on 03/31/2008 9:19:24 PM PDT by torchthemummy (W's Margin Of Victory In Florida 2000 - 537 / FL House Bill Number To Move Up Florida Primary - 537)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I only read the first few paragraphs so I’m not sure... Did the author mention that the US population is at an all-time high, and that there might be some correlation with food stamp recipient numbers also being at an all-time high, or did he miss that part in his rush to publish?


16 posted on 03/31/2008 9:20:10 PM PDT by Zeppo (Every mighty mild... seventies child... Beats me (Metric - Combat Baby))
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To: Zhang Fei
Like I said, this reporter is stupid and lazy.

This reporter AND his newspaper are dishonest.

17 posted on 03/31/2008 9:20:42 PM PDT by torchthemummy (W's Margin Of Victory In Florida 2000 - 537 / FL House Bill Number To Move Up Florida Primary - 537)
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To: Zhang Fei
It's The Independent, and they've had a jihad against the Bush administration for about the last oh, the last 7 1/2 years....

They're clueless about economics so that sort of ultra-negative sentiment is a *good* thing.

No recession! Dow 20,000!

18 posted on 03/31/2008 9:21:19 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: iowamark
Another left wing fraud.
The photo is the usual homeless shelter crowd .
Its nice that Drudge report is still doing its best to promote the Obama campaign with an enlarge photo of this left wing rag .
19 posted on 03/31/2008 9:24:05 PM PDT by ncalburt
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Personally, I think Matt was doing it tongue-in-cheek. The premise was so ridiculous. And as for the photo...

“Unemployable, hungover “corner boys” queue up for soup line.”


20 posted on 03/31/2008 9:33:17 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: iowamark

That picture just looks like a typical day in the Tenderloin in San Francisco.

21 posted on 03/31/2008 10:10:35 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Photobucket This is the most riduclous thing I've heard...anti-americanism running rampant. They would actually welcome such a catastrophe...the undeniable human suffering if we actually did have another one. Remember, these are the same people who have been crashing the dollar and over-inflating the euro. There are a number of people, if not countries, who want to see the U.S.A. fail, despite the worldwide ramifications. It's disgusting!
22 posted on 04/01/2008 12:01:30 AM PDT by xuberalles ("Barack Obama: Change Is A Dime Bag!" http://www.cafepress.com/titillatingtees.225246874)
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These folks are despicable! Unemployment rate is under 5%!!! Inflation is low. Rates are VERY low. NO recession, at least not yet...

Things are not nearly as bad as the media and the Dems want us to believe

23 posted on 04/01/2008 3:51:08 AM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
These folks are despicable! Unemployment rate is under 5%!!! Inflation is low. Rates are VERY low. NO recession, at least not yet...

Things are not nearly as bad as the media and the Dems want us to believe

24 posted on 04/01/2008 3:51:15 AM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...)
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To: torchthemummy

Disgusting! Don’t you first have to blow through a major recession before even being considered a depression?


25 posted on 04/01/2008 3:55:18 AM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...)
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To: Zhang Fei
"expenses...twice"

You got that right. Took a trip over there in 20006 with my English-born wife to visit her relatives. Everything and I mean everything is twice as high. whiners in the U.S. and on this forum should take a trip there sometime. For example my Brit in-laws pay seven dollars equivalent a gallon. Not only is everything twice as much, it's usually smaller. Even so my in-laws live nice because they know how to save and spend wisely.

26 posted on 04/01/2008 11:34:40 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Nation magazine also has a headline in their recent edition wondering if this is the new Great Depression. I’m sure all the leftists are salivating at the thought. Lots more governement control over people they’re thinking.


27 posted on 04/01/2008 11:37:28 AM PDT by driftless2
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Five or six years ago, my friends and I had curry at an unremarkable little dive. The total tab came out to $140. This was a meal that would have cost $50 max in New York City. And we went with someone who had lived in London for a decade. Note that this was before the recent rise in the prices of basic foods.


28 posted on 04/01/2008 12:15:55 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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I am gonna guess you're joking

Thanks for clearing that up. ;^) ;^)

29 posted on 04/01/2008 1:59:20 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1994856/posts?page=6#6


30 posted on 04/01/2008 4:41:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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Brit Hume reported that the cover queue picture was from three years ago and was for a free coat giveaway; nothing related to food stamps. Does anyone have a link or documentation. I am in one of those nonsense arguments with a liberal.


31 posted on 04/03/2008 7:02:29 AM PDT by Truth29
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Independent’s ‘Great Depression’ Photo Was From 2005 Coat Drive | NewsBusters.org
Address:http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2008/04/02/independents-great-depression-photo-was-2005-coat-drive Changed:10:53 AM on Thursday, April 3, 2008


32 posted on 04/03/2008 7:59:35 AM PDT by Truth29
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