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IBM temporarily barred from government business
MarketWatch ^ | 3/31/2008 | John Letzing

Posted on 03/31/2008 8:01:42 PM PDT by revtown

International Business Machines Corp. has been temporarily banned from new business with the federal government and is being investigated by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Virginia over a contract awarded by the Environmental Protection Agency, the company said Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: contracts; epa; government; ibm
Looks like IBM got caught doing something wrong. I wonder if this applies to IBM as a sub-contractor? That would huge.
1 posted on 03/31/2008 8:01:42 PM PDT by revtown
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To: revtown

Exact link:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/ibm-temporarily-banned-us-government/story.aspx?guid=%7BD307FEA3%2D7784%2D4456%2D88AE%2D0DC8B982D7F2%7D


2 posted on 03/31/2008 8:02:36 PM PDT by revtown
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To: revtown

Are series?


3 posted on 03/31/2008 8:02:49 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: revtown
Ridiculous.

The govt would cut off it's nose to spite it's face? I think not.

That would be like barring General Dynamics from Defense contracts.

IBM IS the government.

4 posted on 03/31/2008 8:04:31 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: revtown

EPA employee gave information to IBM employee that may have been used in a bid. This could be a violation of:

Federal law
EPA contract guidance
IBM business conduct policy


5 posted on 03/31/2008 8:08:05 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Mariner

“IBM said that the U.S. attorney’s office served “IBM and certain employees with grand-jury subpoenas requesting testimony and documents” related to interaction between EPA and company employees. IBM said it plans to contest the suspension, which can continue for an initial period of up to one year.”

If IBM contests it, maybe the suspension will be held up pending the investigation and by then IBM will settle up and pay a fine.


6 posted on 03/31/2008 8:08:39 PM PDT by revtown
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To: ShadowAce

/mark


7 posted on 03/31/2008 8:10:29 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Mariner

IBM is small potatoes these days. Sounds like someone was trying to play catch-up.


8 posted on 03/31/2008 8:10:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: revtown

That’s okay, maybe they can get another contract in Germany: http://www.news.com/Selling-technology-to-the-Nazis/2010-1071_3-876539.html


9 posted on 03/31/2008 8:14:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: revtown

That would be huge. Usually some subsidiary of the main company actually bids on the contract to prevent that very thing.


10 posted on 03/31/2008 8:17:25 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: revtown
How the mighty have fallen...
11 posted on 03/31/2008 8:17:51 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: revtown

Doesn’t China own IBM????


12 posted on 03/31/2008 8:20:03 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77 (Atypical Black Person)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

A Chinese company bought their PC business, is all, IIRC.


13 posted on 03/31/2008 8:23:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanx :-p


14 posted on 03/31/2008 8:25:50 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77 (Atypical Black Person)
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To: muawiyah
"IBM is small potatoes these days".

I don't know why you would say such a thing, unless it's from ignorance...or a different metric than I would use.

The Fed govt, and MOST agencies within the Federal Govt...could not function without IBM's largest computers. The IRS. FDA. SEC. EVERY AGENCY with the government has a BIG, BLUE IBM Mainframe...or dozens of them.

The desktop doesn't matter if you can't process payroll or collect taxes.

Sheesh.

15 posted on 03/31/2008 8:27:45 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: muawiyah
IBM is small potatoes these days.

That's what they WANT you to think! :-)

16 posted on 03/31/2008 8:27:59 PM PDT by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: revtown

Here in Austin IBM bidded, and won, the contract for the State of Texas to migrate MOST of TX systems/transactions moving to the I-Series (AS/400) in a monstrous migration project from the MVS and other systems.

Turns out IBM *way* underbid the contract to get it, and is underperforming.

I got a bunch of headhunting calls and emails for the migration, and all of them had no real clue what needed to be done.

Glad I didn’t get into the conversion.


17 posted on 03/31/2008 8:30:55 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: muawiyah

You are kidding, right? IBM is freakin huge still in corporate/government land.


18 posted on 03/31/2008 9:16:09 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: revtown; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

19 posted on 04/01/2008 3:52:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: revtown
IBMers have to read and certify their commitment to IBM's Business Conduct Guidelines every year.

If an IBMer behaved unlawfully or even unethically in this situation, their career is over.

IBM has hundreds of thousands of employees. Whether an IBMer is at fault or not in this situation, some IBMers will occasionally screw up and and pay the price with their job (or worse). IBM suffers the consequences and moves on without them, admonishing those that remain.
20 posted on 04/01/2008 4:08:39 AM PDT by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well...)
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To: EasySt
If an IBMer behaved unlawfully or even unethically in this situation, their career is over.

That's what's strange about this total suspension. Every contractor company goes through this, every employee knows it's a firing offense, or worse. Normally the company slaps down the offender and keeps doing business, but something happened here to escalate it. Did IBM try to protect the employee?

21 posted on 04/01/2008 1:08:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Did IBM try to protect the employee?"

Unlikely. Since IBM began what appears to be regular quarterly layoffs starting back in the mid 90's there has been little to suggest that any employee protection, beyond what the law requires, is going on. If such a thing did happen, the responsible employee will have plenty of company in his search for future employment...

Breaking the rules in today's IBM gets one thrown off, or under, the bus real quick.
22 posted on 04/01/2008 1:44:47 PM PDT by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well...)
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To: revtown

I can’t say too much about this because I don’t know what is public/private but this has defense implications.


23 posted on 04/01/2008 4:00:43 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

It sounds like the 1 year suspension is in place, but IBM has 1 month to appeal the decision. So if IBM wins the appeal, it might be over in 1 month or less.

Per you comment, there could be defense implications where IBM is a subcontractor to a primary.

Somebody else mentioned the super computer business. The gov’t is a major buyer of those.


24 posted on 04/01/2008 4:57:42 PM PDT by revtown
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To: rb22982
IBM isn't the 8 trillion pound gorilla anymore. As you recall IBM folks were fearful that their recently developed PC would display workstations (that sold for a far higher price) they set it up so that your programs could progress only at the speed the video chip could write to your screen.

That's where all those other PC companies came in ~ to fill the IBM gap ~ and, as the IBM work station marketing people predicted they kicked IBM's A$$.

Sure, there are still big computers around, but IBM doesn't build all of them anymore, and they definitely are invisible on the desk top.

25 posted on 04/01/2008 6:24:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

IBM is bigger now than they were 5 years ago. Sure, not as big as in the late 80s/early 90s comparitably but they are still very, very large. In terms of market cap there are I believe one of the top 15 or 20 companies, period.


26 posted on 04/01/2008 6:50:10 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
Within the US government they've lost more ground than they've lost in the US economy on the whole, or in the world economy.

The question was their ability to dominate the US government's administrative, technical and support operations.

I was there and watched them lose ground, much of it of their own volition. In the early days they were the company of choice when it came to designing computer systems. More recently they've been edged out of that by federal government agency employees and by independent contractors.

No doubt they're still a large company. Think they were worth $162 billion today. Microsoft, much newer to this field, was worth $274 billion. Dell, a major equipment vendor to the US government, was worth $44 billion.

27 posted on 04/01/2008 7:03:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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