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Police: Outlaw masked hoodies (dumb quotes of the day inside)
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Posted on 03/29/2008 11:45:29 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

Police: Outlaw masked hoodies

Posted by gswan March 29, 2008 7:24 AM

The Mobile Police Department wants to ban the sale of a specific kind of hooded sweatshirt that zips over the face and has been used in several recent robberies.

At a Friday afternoon news conference, two cadets modeled the hoodies the police were going after. One was adorned with logos of the rap duo the Insane Clown Posse, and the other was designed to look like an Egyptian sarcophagus.

Unlike ordinary hooded sweatshirts, which zip up to the neck, these garments zipped all the way to the top of the head. Designs were printed on the fabric covering the face, and the shirts had eyeholes cut into them.

"I'm almost to the point of outrage concerning the hoodies," Police Chief Phillip Garrett said. "I don't think these should be sold. The only reason you would buy one is to disguise your identity."

The Police Department is looking into writing an ordinance outlawing the sale of the clothing, Garrett said.

The chief also asked that parents go through their teenagers' closets and cars to see if they own any hoodies. Even if they are not committing a crime, kids wearing the outfits could put themselves at risk of being mistaken for criminals by police, Garrett said.

"I don't want anybody to get hurt, the child or the police officer," Garrett said. "But that's going to happen at some point if this doesn't slow down."

Deputy Chief Jim Barber said the hoodies are not just offering camouflage to hardened criminals. Normally good kids are committing crimes because the hoodies give them a feeling of invulnerability, he said.

"This is what's motivating people who otherwise would not commit crimes to commit some very serious crimes, armed robbery in particular," Barber said.

But while the hoodies have been worn in a number of recent crimes, Barber said, robbers wearing hoodies are not part of an organized gang.

"There is no hoodie gang," he said. "There is a hoodie garment that seems to be motivating people to do a lot of things they otherwise wouldn't."

Mobile has a mask ordinance that outlaws people covering their face in public outside of Mardi Gras activities. But police officials said it doesn't apply to the hoodies until they are zipped up, and by then it's often too late.

At the Friday news conference, Garrett also said police made several robbery arrests on Thursday and Friday.

Lecurtis Morrison, 19, Carl Taite, 17 and two juveniles aged 14 and 15 were charged with first degree robbery Thursday in connection with five incidents on Tuesday and Thursday.

Skyler Poellnitz, 16, was charged with first degree robbery and first degree receiving stolen property at 1:30 a.m. Friday. Police said he and another man stole a woman's purse and Chevrolet Trailblazer Thursday afternoon.

Police are looking for the accomplice, whom they described as a 5-foot-7 black male with medium build and a dark complexion.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; beserkcop; ccw; donutwatch; rkba

1 posted on 03/29/2008 11:45:32 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain

When hoodies are outlawed, only outlaws will have hoodies.

Does this epidemic of epic stupidity have some kind of conclusion, or is it forever?


2 posted on 03/29/2008 11:50:01 AM PDT by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: Sir Gawain

“The chief also asked that parents go through their teenagers’ closets and cars to see if they own any hoodies. Even if they are not committing a crime, kids wearing the outfits could put themselves at risk of being mistaken for criminals by police, Garrett said.

“I don’t want anybody to get hurt, the child or the police officer,” Garrett said. “But that’s going to happen at some point if this doesn’t slow down.”


I was following the story pretty well until I got to the weird threat, I don’t want any one killed or injured because of their sweat shirts.


3 posted on 03/29/2008 11:50:55 AM PDT by ansel12 (If your profit margin relies on criminality to suppress wages, then you deserve to be out .)
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To: Sir Gawain
Mobile has a mask ordinance that outlaws people covering their face in public outside of Mardi Gras activities.

I wonder if they apply this to the Mahometan brood mares?

4 posted on 03/29/2008 11:52:50 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: JennysCool

Police are unionized, therefore, it will continue.


5 posted on 03/29/2008 11:53:18 AM PDT by papasmurf (WWOD? (What Would Obama Do?))
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To: Sir Gawain

Skyler Poellnitz!
His parents are GUILTY!


6 posted on 03/29/2008 11:53:18 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Sir Gawain
What is next from these clowns?

Registering sewing machines?

I am really doubting that Law Enforcement truly values freedom.

7 posted on 03/29/2008 11:55:06 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Sir Gawain
Even if they are not committing a crime, kids wearing the outfits could put themselves at risk of being mistaken for criminals by police, Garrett said.

What a tool.

8 posted on 03/29/2008 12:00:19 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: Mark was here

“I am really doubting that Law Enforcement truly values freedom.”

Only their freedom.

They violate every law from speeding to parking and darkness of car windows themselves. So it’s natural to assume everyone else is violating the law.

Now they want their own Predator drones so I assume the next law will require everyone to walk around with their face to the sky with hoods down.

This cr*p started when we let them have cars instead of walking a beat.


9 posted on 03/29/2008 12:30:55 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

lolz


10 posted on 03/29/2008 12:55:33 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Sir Gawain
This is the next step, after they outlawed pantyhose.

Now that we don't see this kind of thing any more, it is "special hoodies" coming under fire.

11 posted on 03/29/2008 1:15:03 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (2 John: 9-11 Too often ignored. Short Books are equally important parts of the Bible!)
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To: Sir Gawain; JennysCool; ansel12; ccmay; papasmurf; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Mark was here; ...
Here they are:


12 posted on 03/29/2008 2:36:42 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
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To: Albion Wilde

The dude on the left looks straight out of a Woody Allen movie.


13 posted on 03/29/2008 2:42:24 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Mark was here

” straight out of a Woody Allen movie.”
BWAAAAA! The “Sperm Scene!” That was hilarious!


14 posted on 03/29/2008 2:46:50 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Mark was here; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“The dude on the left looks straight out of a Woody Allen movie.”

that’s not what I thought of at first glance. Something not nearly so funny.


15 posted on 03/29/2008 3:32:26 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Mark was here; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; swmobuffalo
The dude on the left looks straight out of a Woody Allen movie.

I remember that movie. But I think in real life this hoodie could look rather threatening—especially if this model also comes in black.

16 posted on 03/29/2008 3:45:53 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
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To: Sir Gawain
Back in the—well, never mind which decade—I read a science fiction story in which part of the premise was that it was customary for people to wear masks in public as a matter of privacy due to all the video surveillance equipment in use. Guess he was half right. We've got the surveillance.
17 posted on 03/30/2008 9:50:28 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle
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To: A Strict Constructionist
The Police Department is looking into writing an ordinance outlawing the sale of the clothing, Garrett said.

They violate every law from speeding to parking and darkness of car windows themselves. So it’s natural to assume everyone else is violating the law.

Well if the PD writes the new law, maybe theyll follow it as well...

18 posted on 03/31/2008 5:31:54 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Sir Gawain
"There is a hoodie garment that seems to be motivating people to do a lot of things they otherwise wouldn't."

Let's see, Guns kill people, SUVs kill people, and Hoodies motivate people to do bad things!

When did AI get so common? I missed it somehow.

19 posted on 03/31/2008 6:08:23 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Alabama is "shall issue" CCW.

Just have it be considered "probable cause" to believe that somebody with the hood zipped over his face in public is about to engage in armed robbery and may be shot on sight by any armed citizen. Sales of the hoodie will drop

20 posted on 03/31/2008 6:22:43 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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