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Firing of library worker causes uproar (dismissed for reporting child porn surfing to police)
LA TIMes ^ | 3/26/08 | By Steve Chawkins

Posted on 03/26/2008 10:20:45 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

Many in the Central Valley farm town of Lindsay were shocked when a man was arrested after allegedly viewing photos of nude boys on a computer in the local library.

But even more shocking was the dismissal two days later of the library branch's lone employee, who said she alerted police over the objections of her supervisor.

The firing of aide Brenda Biesterfeld has prompted a prayer vigil outside the library, a stinging letter from the City Council to Tulare County officials, rumblings about the town of 11,000 breaking off from the county library system and a wave of anger throughout the community

On Tuesday, an organization promoting "family-friendly" libraries honored Biesterfeld, 46, a single mother of two, before the Lindsay City Council. Attorneys connected with a conservative legal group based at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University have taken up her cause, threatening to sue the county. Local firefighters are talking about giving her some of the proceeds from a department fundraiser next month.

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But the next day Biesterfeld, nagged by doubts, used her lunch hour to visit the police station next door. She was told to contact the station if the same thing happened again, said Mathew Staver, one of her attorneys. "She was doing the moral and legal thing that anyone would do," he said. "When you see someone viewing child pornography, you report it to the proper authorities."

On March 4, she called police when she saw Chrisler allegedly viewing the same kind of images. Police arrested him and confiscated the computer as evidence. They then received an angry call from Hill, who told them they had violated Chrisler's "privacy rights," according to a letter Biesterfeld's lawyers sent county officials.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: libraries; publicporn; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 03/26/2008 10:20:46 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Our tax dollars at work.


2 posted on 03/26/2008 10:25:07 AM PDT by detective
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To: BurbankKarl
They then received an angry call from Hill, who told them they had violated Chrisler's "privacy rights," according to a letter Biesterfeld's lawyers sent county officials

When you're in "public".... you don't get "privacy".

3 posted on 03/26/2008 10:25:17 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: BurbankKarl

“On March 4, she called police when she saw Chrisler allegedly viewing the same kind of images. Police arrested him and confiscated the computer as evidence...”

If he had been surfing an Islamic terrorist site or looking up bomb making, I bet the the librarian would have offered him sanctuary.


4 posted on 03/26/2008 10:25:39 AM PDT by y6162
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To: BurbankKarl

Don’t get it: child porn is illegal. There must have been a technicality, i.e. the guy didn’t technically “possess” the porn cuz it wasn’t on his computer? It was on the library’s? What gives?


5 posted on 03/26/2008 10:26:12 AM PDT by PLK
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To: BurbankKarl

I’m disgusted, plus the ALA (her professional org) probably won’t even support her.

I have a family member who is working on an Internet crimes squad. When somebody goes into a chat room and mentions that they’re, say, 11 years old, within 10 minutes there will be men sending videos of their private parts.

Librarians have an obligation to keep porn and its users out of this public space, paid for by our tax dollars, and to protect the children who are using the Internet.


6 posted on 03/26/2008 10:27:32 AM PDT by livius
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To: PLK

He was distributing child porn at the library.


7 posted on 03/26/2008 10:27:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: PLK

Accessing is a crime as well as possessing.


8 posted on 03/26/2008 10:27:44 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: PLK

WOW, people still use libraries?


9 posted on 03/26/2008 10:28:23 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: BurbankKarl

Sounds like her boss, Judi Hill, is more concerned about pedophiles rights than those of the children they molest.


10 posted on 03/26/2008 10:28:53 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: BurbankKarl

How crazy is this?!


11 posted on 03/26/2008 10:29:08 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: BurbankKarl

They need to can the supervisor and promote the lady with common sense.


12 posted on 03/26/2008 10:30:47 AM PDT by proudpapa (May God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Isn't it true that a pediatrician or school authority who knows (or suspects) that a child is being abused at home has a duty to report it? I recognize that this is slightly different, but if you really care about children, you have to take steps to stop the victimizers of children.

Or at least, I woudl think so.

13 posted on 03/26/2008 10:33:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: BurbankKarl

Libraries have turned into havens for the homeless & perverts. If I had a kid I wouldn’t take them to a library, especially a big city library.

The American Library Association doesn’t even support internet filters on Children’s computers. Them & their wacko brethren, the ACLU think taxpayers owe all these perverts access to free porn.

I work in a library and it virtually took an act of congress to get the system to install filters. I hope to find new employment soon, I’ve had about all I can stand.


14 posted on 03/26/2008 10:36:43 AM PDT by Smittie
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To: PLK

No porn filters on library internet connections?


15 posted on 03/26/2008 10:39:21 AM PDT by y6162
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To: DonaldC

Libraries are basically museums these days....


16 posted on 03/26/2008 10:40:18 AM PDT by y6162
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To: y6162

Filters would infringe on the rights of pedophiles.


17 posted on 03/26/2008 10:41:01 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: LaineyDee

Read the Constitution. Not once will you find the word “privacy” because the Founding Fathers never put an express right to privacy in there.

These guys were all great writers. Had they meant a right to privacy to exist the would have put it in there. No need to imply anything. Madison et. al. seldom wrote with implication.

Instead we have all these legal gymnastics twisting what’s not there so it appears to be....and leading to bad law like “Roe v. Wade”.


18 posted on 03/26/2008 11:03:51 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Emperor Palpatine

The 4th Amendment in the Bill of Rights addresses privacy issues....(not in those exact words) but there again.... this guy was in “public” and none of the things he was in possession of, belonged to him.


19 posted on 03/26/2008 11:14:44 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: BurbankKarl

I know that our library system is using computer access to gather more visitors to their libraries and then use this data to demand more tax increases.


20 posted on 03/26/2008 11:19:07 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: LaineyDee

I’m not disagreeing with you.

But why did the Burger Court use a twisting of the 14th to get “Roe” through...using the big “privacy” argument?

Of course the big word in the Fourth is unreasonable....

Seeing kiddie porn on a library computer and reporting it to the cops ain’t unreasonable.

Besides, the Fourth constrains the cops only, it doesn’t constrain what any other citizen can do.


21 posted on 03/26/2008 11:25:13 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Oh, I agree with you..

But why did the Burger Court use a twisting of the 14th to get “Roe” through...using the big “privacy” argument?

The agenda reigned supreme. There have been forces trying to undermine everything we are as a nation, using petty arguments like this... for many years. Even the moral compasses we had in our churches, pastors and priests have succumbed to the pc stuff. Sad.

22 posted on 03/26/2008 11:39:19 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: BurbankKarl; beaversmom; Jeff Head; Darkwolf377; Armigerous; Mojave; citizencon; Hong Kong Expat; ..
Here are dozens and dozens of links to stories about this Lindsay, CA, librarian being fired. The story has even gone international.

SafeLibraries.org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?
Contact me to get on or off my library crime ping list.
SafeLibraries. org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

23 posted on 03/31/2008 7:14:25 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: plan2succeed.org

Thanks for the PING


24 posted on 03/31/2008 7:23:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Smittie
"I work in a library and it virtually took an act of congress to get the system to install filters. I hope to find new employment soon, I’ve had about all I can stand."

Would you write something I could publish at SafeLibraries.org?
25 posted on 03/31/2008 8:42:55 PM PDT by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: BurbankKarl
By law here in Georgia, we have to kick people off the computer, and, many have been banned for porn viewing, not just child porn.

Georgia state government is our ISP and they don't take kindly to folks abusing the privilege.

26 posted on 04/01/2008 12:00:15 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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