Posted on 03/21/2008 2:23:54 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
MANHEIM TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- A man running around a Lancaster County Chuck E. Cheese restaurant on Thursday evening was spitting and yelling "I have hepatitis C," police said.
Manheim Township police said they arrived at the Chuck E. Cheese of Fruitville Pike around 7:45 p.m. and found David Ecenrode, 45, of Ephrata outside the restaurant. He was taken to a local hospital. Police said they have not confirmed whether he has hepatitis C.
"He was running around acting crazy and spitting, which I think that was probably most significant cause for concern because you're in an eating establishment and this guy's spitting and then on top of that announcing that he has Hepatitis C," said Sgt. Tom Rudzinski.
Chuck E. Cheese managers closed the facility and told patrons to wash with soap and water.
Police said there were no reports of anyone having direct contact with Ecenrode, who police charged with one count of disorderly conduct.
Chuck E. Cheese officials reported that it sanitized the facility and it is now open for business again.
According to the Centers for Disease Control, hepatitis C is not transmitted via saliva. It is transmitted from one person to another through blood. In rare cases, the virus can be spread through sexual contact.
Hepatitis C is a disease of the liver caused by the hepatitis C virus, according to the CDC.
a kids place, no less.
To protect the kids, I would have shot him without hesitation.
It’s a damn shame no one “pointed out” to him just how unacceptable that behavior was.
Probably not.
If I were to guess he’s a tweeker and he’s just tweeker crazy or his liver shut down and he was suffering from hepatic encephalopathy or both.
Shot him on spot and take a chance with high velocity blood splatter? I think not.
Probably, even though you need to exchange blood to transmit Hep C.
Sounds like he’s manic, though I’d have to interview him to make sure. Either way, he needs a swift boot up the !@$#!@. That or 2g of Ativan. Just don’t tell my attending I said that.
Given it was a restaurant, throwing a tablecloth over him and topping it off with a plastic garbage would probably be a more appropriate response. It would be just too bad if he suffocated before the authorities came to take him away. :-)
Pennsylvania, hmmmmm, DPPDS? Oh, you don’t know what DPPDS is. It’s Democrat Party Primary Derangement Syndrome. What I want to know, was this guy a Hillary or a Barack supporter?
Ah yes, a redneck body condom. Works fer me.
Mine is to end an ongoing threat as quickly as possible.
Running around yelling and spitting was gross, but the potential to infect was nil. He wasn’t a threat until he sheds blood, know the facts.
Thanks. You just saved me from posting a furious screed. An assault is an assault..Knives, anthrax, arson, Sulfuric Acid, AIDS, whatever.
In essence, people who announce a disease and spit, etc., are pulling a gun.
You can not get hep c from somebody spitting. The man should have been removed from the place for being a kook. If you shot him then his blood would be all over & the blood is infected. Any parent who stayed there while this kook was running around spitting & acting crazy put their kids in danger. I have no problem with using guns for the right reason but IMHO this doesn’t call for anybody being shot.
OK, so he pulled a gun loaded with blanks, essentially, right? He made the threat and acted on it, but it was not "Loaded".
That is correct, you cannot contract the virus by spitting. It’s blood borne. The first question my MD asked me when I was diagnosed was “Do you have a teenaged daughter at home and does she share a razor with you?” Scenario: I have the virus, I cut myself shaving in the shower. Shortly afterward, daughter goes in to shower, uses the same razor, cuts herself. Bingo....this is nasty stuff.
Yet I have been married to the same guy for almost 36 years and he tested negative [THANK GOD]. Sexual transmission is very rare.
I know some nurses, EMT’s and otherwise Good Samaritans who have contracted it in the field. It takes a microscopic amount of blood to do the job, imagine what a blood spatter in a restaurant full of people would do....
Just sitting there with your hands in your pockets is not an acceptable answer.
You put two rounds into his chest, he's dropping where he stands and not continuing to cause a threat, yes there will be some blood, but a 1911 isn't going to cause high velocity spray from a double tap to the chest cavity.
185 grain jacketed hollow points are not going to over penetrate either, they are staying in the chest, so the chances of my actions endangering the children more than the now dead man are remote.
I know the facts well enough to not be paralyzed into inaction out of fear.
You don't know what kind of risk he poses any more than I do.
So save your second guessing for kibitzing a safe chess game.
As I understand it, PA is Philly in the east, Pitt in the west and Alabama in the middle.
That said, if the guy tried that around this part of Bama, he probably would have had the spit kicked out of him.
I didn’t say sit around like a pansy and let the chump run amok, that thought never crossed my mind. However if some deranged fool shouts I have Hep C and starts spitting, I’m sure not gonna plug him and take a chance of him bleeding out on some little kid or me. Get high velocity blood splatter in the eye and you’re infected.
Now wanna talk about the foolishness of shooting a moving person in a room full of kids and their parents? Geeze.
We couldn’t tell him he’s wrong you know. It might damage his self-esteem.
I’d say electrodes for Mr. Ecenrode might be appropriate...
The battle I fight today is against ignorance. My hometown rag published an article complete with quotes from the state department of public health about how hcv is transmitted largely thru drug use. I about hit the ceiling when I read that! Wrote a lengthy rebuttal to their article....and copied the state department of public health while I was at it!
The man obviously had mental issues, and it is not even known if he has Hep C.
I am amazed that anyone would suggest shooting a person who is acting abhorrently (without a weapon). Of course he should be (and was) subdued, and taken to a hospital for full mental evaluation.
I got up and left a restaurant once, because a woman at the table next to me had taken off her shoes, and was picking callus skin off the bottoms of her feet, and flicking it onto the carpet around her. It never dawned on me that she should be shot and killed. Removed from the restaurant? Yes!
I have two friends with Hep C. Both were infected with blood transfusions over 20 years ago. And neither have ever infected anybody.
I have walked out of many places because of drunks, nose pickers & other reasons. lol. If I am anywhere that I am uncomfortable at I leave. Its really easy & simple to do. Just get up & walk out. If I had Sassy with me & a kook was yelling & spitting I sure would be out the door asap.
Did he work in the kitchen?
Any veteran who had went through the gauntlet of air injection inoculations should be checked for Hep C. I remember the medic using an alcohol swab to sterilize the tip after guys getting cut by the jet. Not good enough!
“Chuck-e-Cheese at Fruitville Point” — there’s a country and western song in their somewhere.
Smash the freak over the head with a chair.
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