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LAW & ORDER episode on "Christian Fanatics" (Vanity)
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Posted on 03/19/2008 11:36:17 PM PDT by L.A.Justice

Did anyone else watch the LAW & ORDER episode on Wednesday night? I managed to catch last 30 minutes of it.

Jason is accused of stoning his mother to death because she was having an affair. He is a student of a pastor who runs a Christian camp for children. DA people play a videotape of the pastor's sermon...The pastor tells the children that we are in a "war" with Islamic fanatics. He speaks out against "hypocrites". Prosecutors shake their heads...The deputy prosecutor states that one doesn't have to go to Middle East to find a school for extremists.

Jason accepts the deal for 15 year jail sentence. The DA's office charges the pastor for inciting the murder of Jason's mother.

There is a trial. The pastor, on the stand, states that we are in a struggle against radical Islam...The prosecutor accuses the pastor of brainwashing kids. One woman stands up and tells the prosecutor that he will go to hell.

The jury goes into deliberation. A problem...One juror is busted with a bible. The prosecution asks for mistrial. The judge refuses. The jury refuses to convict the pastor...DA McCoy says that our "radicals" will go up against their radicals...McCoy wonders when the war would end.

This was a silly episode. The message seemed to be that "radical Christians" were just as dangerous as "radical Muslims". Moral equivalency? This episode portrayed Christians mostly as wackos...I guess that's not really new in Hollywood...


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1 posted on 03/19/2008 11:36:18 PM PDT by L.A.Justice
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To: L.A.Justice

I remember that episode. It was the last episode of Law & Order that I watched. They’ve been making a lot of hard-left turns for a long time, but that was so obviously insulting over the top that it took the cake. The worst kind of moral equivalence.

Criminal Intent is the only iteration I will watch these days. (whenever they show new ones).


2 posted on 03/19/2008 11:38:46 PM PDT by Der_Hirnfänger
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To: L.A.Justice
Liberals of course hate Christians. Christians live in a world of moral absolutes and judgments and liberals abhor both yardsticks. You can't be a good liberal and a good Christian unless you have doubt and you accept all values as equal.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 03/19/2008 11:41:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: L.A.Justice
"This was a silly episode."

Gross understatement. It's old hat for that show.

4 posted on 03/19/2008 11:44:10 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Der_Hirnfänger

I was never interested in watching CRIMINAL INTENT...It also didn’t help that I read an article about Chris Noth. In the article, he is unhappy that the media is not aggressive enough in dealing with conservatives...


5 posted on 03/19/2008 11:45:08 PM PDT by L.A.Justice
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To: L.A.Justice

This is why I no longer have television.


6 posted on 03/19/2008 11:49:17 PM PDT by baa39
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To: L.A.Justice

Unbelievable.


7 posted on 03/19/2008 11:50:47 PM PDT by John Robie
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To: baa39

8 posted on 03/19/2008 11:57:01 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander

I thought she was cute, but she’s gone this year, replaced by a hot redhead.


9 posted on 03/20/2008 12:01:00 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: All
It's a 9/10/01 kind of world.

stepping back in time to a snaphot in time...

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TIME.com Asia: "WRATH OF GOD Osama bin Laden Lashes Out Against the West" (January 11, 1999)

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10 posted on 03/20/2008 12:03:40 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: L.A.Justice
Saw the whole thing, have watched the L & O shows since they started. The preacher in this show was Sean Astin (Sam the Hobbit). They said he was leading adolescents, but showed him driving 10 year olds to tears. The kids chanting ‘This means War’, and pumping their fists like so many Palestinian kids.

Looks like Fred Thompson should go back to the show!

11 posted on 03/20/2008 12:05:07 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

How did they write Fred Thompson out of the show?


12 posted on 03/20/2008 12:07:31 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: L.A.Justice

I stopped watching a couple of weeks ago when a woman was killed by a bomb near a clinic that identified “gay” fetuses.

The first thing the cops asked was “have you gotten any death threats from Christian youth groups?”

I hate the Dick Wolfe stereotyping of anything Christian as violent and evil.

I stopped watching after that show, and I won’t watch again.

Ed


13 posted on 03/20/2008 12:13:17 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: trumandogz
How did they write Fred Thompson out of the show?

Didn't see the last show of last year or first show of this year. Apparently Arthur Branch was appointed to a higher office, and his Executive Assistant Jack McCoy was appointed to fill out his term. I don't know all the details.

14 posted on 03/20/2008 12:18:47 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: L.A.Justice

I’m a Law & Order addict. It’s getting hard to find an episode I haven’t seen. I have been disappointed in some of their shows, which have plots that could have been written by an 8th grader.


15 posted on 03/20/2008 12:19:08 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama: Racists who are TOO set in their ways, like Wright, are excused from the need to CHANGE.)
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To: L.A.Justice

‘Law and Order’ has always been the most liberal offering in the franchise, but it has really been in decline since Jerry Orbach passed away. And now, with the conservative balance of Fred gone, Jesse Martin and Epatha are the only shining lights left. (Personally, I think Sam grimaces at some of the lines he has to read, but after all this time he should have the pull to force adjustments.)

‘Law and Order: SVU’ is far superior and generally (with only a few lesser exceptions) stays away from the kind of political goofiness that you find in the original L&O, and even when it does occasionally stray into liberal la-la-land, there’s always Stabler there to smirk it off. The show has the best cast on TV, in my opinion. (’CSI: Miami’ is a close second.)

Even ‘Law and Order: Criminal Intent’ keeps getting better. (I know, Vince can be tough to take sometimes, but his psycho character has grown on me over the years.) And despite Vince, L&O: CI is probably the least political of the three L&Os. The alternating casts (the other cast being Chris Noth and his partner du jour) helps keep the show fresh.

Two out of three isn’t bad.


16 posted on 03/20/2008 12:30:05 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: L.A.Justice

My girl friend watces this garbage religiously. (pun?)

I found this program to be dull. All of the characters, men and women act in the same drab manner. There is no intellectual or emotional differentiation among the characters. Men and women are portrayed in a sterile
social manner.

Chris Noth is my girl’s heart throb. I said he can’t be
too macho. He’s a liberal weeny...now I’m in the dog house.


17 posted on 03/20/2008 12:30:19 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: ChiMark
Chris Noth is my girl’s heart throb.

Maybe she saw him in Sex and the City? The movie version is coming out soon, I hear.

18 posted on 03/20/2008 12:35:54 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Nope... Stopped watching Law & Order because it’s a propaganda machine. The social messages got very old.


19 posted on 03/20/2008 12:41:30 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Cindy

Hi, Cindy,

That’s a great post but I’m pretty sure you posted to the wrong thread....

FRegards,
LH


20 posted on 03/20/2008 12:42:46 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cindy

Sorry! Please disregard my last post.

FRegards,
LH


21 posted on 03/20/2008 12:44:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Sir_Ed

Dick Wolfe and his crew of loonie left producer/director/actors are morons.

They think AQ will do them last (and with a sharp one), since they have been doing bin laden’s media lifting for so long.

Wouldn’t p on them if they were on fire. When I see their crew RV’s I spit.

(Ask me how I really feel about “Flaw and Boredom”...)


22 posted on 03/20/2008 12:44:32 AM PDT by Yehuda ("Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!" (Choke on it, pinkos; Waterboarding Jihadists Works!))
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To: Lancey Howard

No problem.

Once one checks the first 2 links and then scans the rest; my post fits in for posterity and archival purposes.


23 posted on 03/20/2008 12:47:08 AM PDT by Cindy
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There is a thread about these God-awful shows once every month or two...BUT YOU STILL KEEP WATCHING!!!

Stop watching this shit, and tell NBC why you have stopped.

Until then, the Left will continue to rule the media, have more influence over your kids than you, they will continue to make millions thanks to you, and things will continue to get worse, because they will have rea$$$$$$on to do so.

Conservatives are hawks outside the borders, but doves inside it. That is why we are losing.

24 posted on 03/20/2008 12:50:45 AM PDT by Captainpaintball (http://yourboysboys.com/commercial)
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To: L.A.Justice

This show has always been anti-christian - boycott it!


25 posted on 03/20/2008 12:56:20 AM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: L.A.Justice

Thanks for the info. I had it recorded for future viewing. I should have known better!


26 posted on 03/20/2008 1:09:03 AM PDT by donna ("Women are not little men, and men are not big women.")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I was hoping that Thompson, if elected would appoint Jack McCoy AG.


27 posted on 03/20/2008 1:31:43 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: L.A.Justice
Jason is accused of stoning his mother to death because she was having an affair.

Cue the "Aw geez" guy -- Cold Case had an episode last season in which high school kids in an pro-abstinence group stoned to death a girl who quit, became sexually active, and defended a gay boy against their taunts.

I think the Media Resource Center ought to host an award ceremony similar to the Razzies that give prizes to the most outrageous stereotypes of conservatives, Christians, and traditionalists in TV and film.

28 posted on 03/20/2008 1:31:56 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (That's not an "O" in the Obama campaign's logo -- it's a ZERO)
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To: L.N. Smithee

I believe that they do just that. Think I saw it on C-SPAN.


29 posted on 03/20/2008 1:43:33 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Law & Order has been one of my favorite shows for years but I’m just about to get my fill of it. I bet there have been at least five different episodes since 2001 that start off looking like there’s going to be a Muslim criminal, but it ALWAYS gets twisted back around to portray the Muslims as misunderstood innocents, the victims of totally unwarranted bias and suspicion.

And gosh knows HOW many episodes have portrayed Christians as nuts.

When tonight’s episode started, I KNEW they’d exonerate the Muslim angle. Zero doubt on that point. When they did a double-whammy and twisted it back on Christians, I switched it off with a sigh.

And gosh knows HOW many episodes have portrayed the poor homosexuals as oppressed victims.

And of course the cops on the show always disagree with the federal government’s need to monitor terrorists.

It’s all getting really really really old and tired. I watched an episode a few days ago from the early 90s, when they were making minor fun of homosexuals. My oh my how things have changed in just 15 years.

On that last point, isn’t it amazing how the liberal sensitivity evolves? 20 years ago, liberals at large would have been just as likely to crack homosexual jokes as anyone else. Then some Liberal PC Officer somewhere declared homosexuals to be their next pet victim class and boom, they’re all wringing their hands. What a weak-minded bunch they are. It’s like they sit around waiting for someone to tell them which splinter group they must next champion.

MM


30 posted on 03/20/2008 1:55:32 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: L.A.Justice

Most programs these days take a very liberal tilt. An episode last year of NCIS starring Mark Harmon had an story line about Islamic terrorists bombing buildings in D.C. One of the characters mentioned Islamic terror bombings to Harmon’s character, and Harmon responded with something like yes and we have a lot of anti-abortion nuts going around bombing abortion clinics. The rampant anti-conservative, anti-Christian tone of most tv shows is inescapable.


31 posted on 03/20/2008 2:08:01 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: goldstategop
"moral absolutes"

The idea that libs have no morality is not the conclusion I come to. They do have a morality, it's just the opposite of Christian morality. Killing kids in the womb is perfectly fine with them, but cutting down a tree or wearing a fur coat is a crime to be punished with extreme measures. Their morality is a Bizarro world morality, but they do have one.

32 posted on 03/20/2008 2:11:35 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Yehuda

Heh heh heh, Flaw and Boredom!

I really enjoyed yer post, Yehuda!

Ed


33 posted on 03/20/2008 2:19:39 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: trumandogz
How did they write Fred Thompson out of the show?

He got a better offer doing celebrity endorsements:
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34 posted on 03/20/2008 2:27:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (This year's presidential choices: "Speak No Evil, See No Evil, and Evil")
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To: L.A.Justice
Nothing wrong with L&O that this guy couldn't cure!


35 posted on 03/20/2008 2:33:33 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I thought she was cute, but she’s gone this year, replaced by another hot redhead.

Fixed.

What I've heard is that Julianne Nicholson will be back on the show -- she took maternity leave. The writer's strike kicked in and they ran out of scripts, or she'd have already been back by now. Alicia Witt might be a recurring character, but she was always meant to be a temporary partner for Logan.

36 posted on 03/20/2008 2:44:06 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Der_Hirnfänger

Liberal bias (fiction TV)and leftist historical revissionism (”documentery” channels) is everywhere.Consider it non-stop public education post K-12 and colledge.
Just yesterday on the Military—yes the MILITARY channel-they marked the fifth anniversary of the beginning of the Iraq War as being solely caused by Bush’s “claims” to there being WMDs there.
We can only teach our children the truth—home-schooling is actually more important for those in public education than for anyone else.


37 posted on 03/20/2008 2:48:26 AM PDT by Happy Rain
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

I know that this is off topic, but do you know when season six of ‘The Shield’ will be coming out on dvd? I am dying to see what happens after Shane killed Lem.


38 posted on 03/20/2008 2:53:15 AM PDT by frankiep (Democrats base their ideology on the premise that you are too stupid to do anything for yourself.)
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To: frankiep

Sorry, I don’t know.


39 posted on 03/20/2008 2:59:15 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: Der_Hirnfänger

Isn’t Law and Order based on true stories. Could this story actually have happened? See that is why I don’t have a major problem with Law and Order because they say they are actual cases that happened.


40 posted on 03/20/2008 3:01:39 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Westlander

Do real officers wear slacks slung 6 inches below their navel with their shirt resting even with their belt? This is a government standard of dress for women? (Just wondering?)


41 posted on 03/20/2008 3:04:09 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: syriacus

I liked Law & order in the good ol’ days, when it was Max and Logan, later on, Phil and Lenny Brisco.

It had the great Ben Stone character and Paul Robinette’s ADA. Incredible plots. One time there was a Russian immigrant who Ben forced to testify against the mob, she was killed and Stone resigned in an amazing scene that should have gotten him an Emmy.

Then Max Greevey was killed in front of his wife...really good plots and good characters.

It fell apart after Michael Moriarty and George Dzunda left.

Ed


42 posted on 03/20/2008 3:17:59 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I thought she was cute, but she’s gone this year, replaced by a hot redhead.

yup....alicia witt is hot!!!!


43 posted on 03/20/2008 3:30:29 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: napscoordinator
Could this story actually have happened?

Well the part about a juror bringing in the bible happened in Albany NY, otherwise that case was not like this one. There was a Fundamentalist Christian camp, where some interpreted it as producing fanatical Christians, but there was no crime involved. That's all I remember offhand.

44 posted on 03/20/2008 3:31:08 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: Sir_Ed

McGreevey got killed at the end of Season 1!! Paul Robinette was only there for 3 seasons, and Moriarity for 5 or 6 seasons.


45 posted on 03/20/2008 3:34:07 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: nyyankeefan
Looked her up on IMDB. Her first movie was as little Princess Alia in Dune!
46 posted on 03/20/2008 3:53:49 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Thanks. I guess they took alot of liberties on the story. Kinda sad because the show could really be good.


47 posted on 03/20/2008 3:55:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

God bless Lennie Brisco.


48 posted on 03/20/2008 3:57:43 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Disgruntled about it all. None of the above.)
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To: Sir_Ed

Thanks for providing the detailed rundown!


49 posted on 03/20/2008 4:20:52 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama: Racists who are TOO set in their ways, like Wright, are excused from the need to CHANGE.)
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To: L.A.Justice
LAW & ORDER episode on "Christian Fanatics"

They don't do any other kind - if the Christian is a Protestant, he's a fanatic; if Catholic, a child molestor. I quit watching years ago. Any show that hates Christians that much (and that EXCLUSIVELY - I never saw those kinds of slams against Jews or Muslims) isn't for me.

50 posted on 03/20/2008 4:24:54 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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