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Stock markets and dollar plunge again on fears over bank crisis(facing a financial black hole)
Stockhouse ^ | 03/14/08

Posted on 03/15/2008 2:54:45 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: freeangel

It doesn’t sound too bad until you realize that 3% fewer people then have to shoulder a 300% increase in risk. For the market, an increase from 1% to 4% loan defaulters is tremendous; it undermines fundamental calculations about the business.


21 posted on 03/15/2008 5:45:12 AM PDT by Content Provider
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Comming to a town near you ...

Right or wrong, Bush will be remembered as the worst President since ... America started

22 posted on 03/15/2008 5:46:59 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: freeangel

You should really read up on derivitaves and how much they make up the “assets” of America’s financial entities. Your right foot is only about 5% of your total body. Cut it off and see what happens.


23 posted on 03/15/2008 5:47:42 AM PDT by okkev68
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I read on another story that large amounts of cash are being removed from US banks, noting it as one of the causes of Fridays debacle.

Is this foreign money bailing out, or US money being transferred to US Treasury notes???.


24 posted on 03/15/2008 6:01:50 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I distinctly remember about 20 years ago some economic forecaster predicting future problems with the banking industry

His reason

“The new checks with scenery etc imprinted on them “

His rational

“Bankers are typically very conservative and staid when it comes to financial dealings etc “

The new type checks was an indication that that attitude was changing

Not a good sign in his opinion

Well it took 20 years but he was 100% right


25 posted on 03/15/2008 6:04:37 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: IncPen; Forecaster; BartMan1

ping


26 posted on 03/15/2008 6:06:15 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: CaspersGh0sts

At this rate, we can just destroy our currency and pay off all our debts on our now worthless money. Brilliant!!


Those of us who did actually work hard and save $$ are now seeing our savings erode. In the meantime, those who were irresponsible (be they consumers or Wall Street Executives), will likely get every kind of bailout imaginable.

What good are low interest rates if you are paying substantially more for food, energy, and other commodities? And while interest rates are “low”, credit has tightened to the point where few, if any, can get these wonderful loans. Prices are spiking but wages are staying the same. And, of course, the official inflation numbers way understate the problem. The American people will be bled dry to pay for the excesses of a few.

Bernake is called Helicopter Ben because he said the would throw $$ out of a helicopter to prevent a recession. That was an idiotic comment if I ever heard one—so of course, our current problems should be no surprise.


27 posted on 03/15/2008 6:15:59 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Stock markets and dollar plunge again on fears over bank crisis(facing a financial black hole)...

racist headline...don’t call it a “black” hole....that’s racist!!!!

it is a diverse multi-color hole!!!!


28 posted on 03/15/2008 6:41:12 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: nyyankeefan

Congressional oversight anybody? Let’s especially remember, Representative Barney Fwank, Chairman House Committee on Financial Services and of course let’s not forget Senator Chrissie Dodd, Chairman Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Over 400 days have passed with nothing but specious and annoying oversight.


29 posted on 03/15/2008 6:56:36 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: Travis McGee
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30 posted on 03/15/2008 8:10:18 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is being labelled as perhaps the worst financial and banking crisis since the Great Depression. While that sounds fairly apocalyptic, I think it is a realistic assessment of what is happening at the moment.'

Not apocalyptic at all. This is only the second time in its existence that the Fed has directly bailed out a Wall Street firm. The last time was in the 1960's according to other stories.

And by the time it's all said and done, we'll have almost as much trouble remembering how many firms the Fed bails out as we do keeping track of the subprime-fallout odometer. (I believe it's ticked past $200B.)

31 posted on 03/15/2008 8:46:42 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is being labelled as perhaps the worst financial and banking crisis since the Great Depression. While that sounds fairly apocalyptic, I think it is a realistic assessment of what is happening at the moment.'

Not apocalyptic at all. This is only the second time in its existence that the Fed has directly bailed out a Wall Street firm. The last time was in the 1960's according to other stories.

And by the time it's all said and done, we'll have almost as much trouble remembering how many firms the Fed bails out as we do keeping track of the subprime-fallout odometer. (I believe it's ticked past $200B.)

32 posted on 03/15/2008 8:46:43 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Vet_6780
Nobody wants to buy Bear Stearns because of its $229 billion of counterparty risk for which the Fed is now liable. So in 28 days Bear Stearns can tell the Fed "Sold to you" !!

Bingo! As Peter Schiff wrote yesterday, "will the Fed really return these ticking time bombs to their true owners in 28 days, inciting the very collapse its actions were originally designed to postpone? Why does the Fed believe that the mortgages will be marketable next month; or the month after that?"

33 posted on 03/15/2008 8:50:50 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: djf
Can you blame the Arabs for wanting more and more of something day after day when that something is worth less and less day after day?

But at some point you're throwing good money after bad. Here's an article on the guy who bought part of Citibank in September for 425M pounds. That's worth 55M pounds now if I am reading the article correctly.

He could buy a WHOLE lot more of it now with another 425M pounds but he isn't.

34 posted on 03/15/2008 8:57:16 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis if you want a “commercial” version of famous last words, the Bear Stearns guy earlier this week would be a great starter.


35 posted on 03/15/2008 8:58:36 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: CapnJack

And who out there really believes that America will elect another Republican for President in ‘08, especially one who has been in the Senate as a proud contributor for the last 25 years. Not to mention, one who is admittedly not very well educated in economic principles?


36 posted on 03/15/2008 9:03:32 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....Viva El Presidente! "I'm not prejudice, I hate everybody the same.")
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To: rbg81

I think the helicopter thing was to prevent deflation, not a plain vanilla recession.


37 posted on 03/15/2008 10:17:46 AM PDT by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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To: 31R1O

Why doesn’t anyone ever mention that the loose credit that led to the banking crisis was a direct result of a Clinton executive order to extend credit to poor neighborhoods?


38 posted on 03/15/2008 10:19:47 AM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: uncbob

I predicted that the american dollar would start to slip when they redesigned our paper money. Basically using the same logic as this guy with his check scenery.


39 posted on 03/15/2008 10:28:19 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: jiggyboy
The last time was in the 1960's according to other stories.

Well there was that LTCM thingie that would have taken down the banking system of the civilized world if the federal reserve had not made some ledger entries to provide some liquidity to an otherwise sound and solid company that faced a problem that there was a crisis in the credit markets such that it had cash flow problem, although they were not bankrupt.

Citicorpse has been to big to fail despite its lending excesses many many times now.

40 posted on 03/15/2008 10:49:23 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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