Guns are dangerous! Some out of control
Border Patrol agents used them to wound
an innocent Mexican drug smuggler!
Posted on 03/13/2008 9:33:41 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
In preparation for oral arguments Tuesday on the extent of gun rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, the U.S. Supreme Court has before it a brief signed by Vice President Cheney opposing the Bush administration's stance. Even more remarkably, Cheney is faithfully reflecting the views of President Bush.
The government position filed with the Supreme Court by U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement stunned gun advocates by opposing the breadth of an appellate court's affirmation of individual ownership rights. The Justice Department, not the vice president, is out of order. But if Bush agrees with Cheney, why did the president not simply order Clement to revise his brief? The answers: disorganization and weakness in the eighth year of his presidency.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
C’mon, when you are a uniter not a divider, you let your justice department do the career civil service thing. Everyone knows that!
Interesting headline. For a moment I thought Cheney was after the White House doves again...
Talk about schizophrenic.
I wonder who really is piloting the ship down there.
Weakness of leadership is not something that took President Pollyanna 8 years to perfect.
Perhaps the single most glaring weakness of this administration has been its inability to control the bureaucracy. Bush has an MBA yet shows little to no talent for managing the departments over which he allegedly presides. When his underlings aren’t contradicting his professed principles by their bumbling they are deliberately working to undermine him. And it seems that nothing at all is done to rectify the mess. Firings are rare to non-existent.
Maybe I just don’t understand how the bureaucracy works but it seemed like Clinton managed to bring his appointees and their minions into line.
I won't disagree that Bush could have done a much better job of controlling the bureaucracy, but Clinton didn't have to bring his appointees and the bureaucracy into line. They were already there.
Good God...What a bunch of double talk.
” a Republican administration finds itself aligned against the most popular tenet of social conservatism: gun rights, which enjoy much wider agreement than do opposition to abortion or gay marriage.
Promises in two presidential campaigns are being abandoned...”
My money’s on Dick Cheney! :D
Thanks for the ping. Say your prayers for 2008. McCain gets supported only by social conservatines willing to hold their noses. That’s ditto for libertarians, IMHO. I’m still scratching my head about how the GOP got stuck with this RINO, and the dems are having a fight between Trotsky and Stalin.
I’m still scratching my head about how the GOP got stuck with this RINO, and the dems are having a fight between Trotsky and Stalin.
‘Nuf said !
“In preparation for oral arguments Tuesday on the extent of gun rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, the U.S. Supreme Court has before it a brief signed by Vice President Cheney opposing the Bush administration’s stance. Even more remarkably, Cheney is faithfully reflecting the views of President Bush.”
OK... I’m confused. What is the Bush Admin stance, and how could Cheney “oppose” the Bush Admin stance and yet “faithfully reflect the views of president Bush”?
That makes no sense to me.
To cut to the chase, the Bush Administration (specifically his Solicitor General) submitted a brief that is luke warm to the Second Amendment..."luke warm," probably being a generous description. This was done in spite of Bush's ostensibly pro-2nd Amendment views, which apparently only Cheney really cared enough about to speak up for.
Got it?
Guns are dangerous! Some out of control
Border Patrol agents used them to wound
an innocent Mexican drug smuggler!
Thanks Joe! That clears it up!
The same way we just got stuck with another one (McCain). Bush was the lesser of two evils...Gore or Kerry would have been a much worse nightmare to live through...IMO
The Exectuive Branch is not a monolithic entity with a single brain. The SG has a job to do without being micro-managed by, or keep running to, the President. He consulted seemingly suitable branches, it was observed that Mr. Heller’s likely win would disrupt many other laws the Executive branch is tasked with executing, and in normal form he went to the Supreme Court to ask that whatever the verdict, it be rendered in a way that would not disrupt other laws. Viewed from a rather mundane angle, it makes sense.
Cheney, having a rather large machinegun collection, is more aware of what effects _Heller_ can - and should - have. In his role as President of the Senate - a position defaulting from but technically independent of the Executive Branch - he was free to sign onto the pro-Heller brief preferred by a majority (?) in Congress, and thus express his opposition to the SG’s position.
The end of the lead article notes rumors that the SG has been told to change his tune. He gets 15 minutes in front of SCOTUS on Tuesday. This will be VERY interesting.
It really doesn't matter. It's sinking! It's just a matter of time until it hits bottom.
Sad but true.
Just say “NO” to more Bushes!!!!
It is a very interesting problem.
A proper brief from the Solicitor General, upholding an individual right subject to strict scrutiny, would indicate that executive branch agencies like the BATFE are violating the Constitution every single day. Administrations long before this one should have made plain that they were going to obey their oaths of office to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, not the acts of Congress which violate it nor the blatantly erroneous rulings of lower courts.
The Supreme Court should have been required to straighten out this mess a long time ago. Failing to do so has rendered the situation extremely dangerous to our inalienable rights.
Looks like our gummint is of two minds. How the USSC decides this case will be a pretty good indication of how the gummint intends to treat us in the future .......... FRegards
The SG is representing the GOVERNMENT which, of course, wants to increase it’s relative power over citizens.
It is the COURT’S JOB to check that.
This is as it is supposed to be.
Anyway, I hope Dick Cheney goes to the oral arguements and brings his shotgun!
Well, I would rather go hunting with Cheney than ride in a car with Teddy Kennedy.
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