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Scary or sensational? A machine that can look into the mind
www.guardian.co.uk ^ | 03/06/2008 | James Randerson,

Posted on 03/06/2008 11:12:03 AM PST by Red Badger

Scientists have developed a computerised mind-reading technique which lets them accurately predict the images that people are looking at by using scanners to study brain activity. The breakthrough by American scientists took MRI scanning equipment normally used in hospital diagnosis to observe patterns of brain activity when a subject examined a range of black and white photographs. Then a computer was able to correctly predict in nine out of 10 cases which image people were focused on. Guesswork would have been accurate only eight times in every 1,000 attempts. The study raises the possibility in the future of the technology being harnessed to visualise scenes from a person's dreams or memory. Writing in the journal Nature, the scientists, led by Dr Jack Gallant from the University of California at Berkeley, said: "Our results suggest that it may soon be possible to reconstruct a picture of a person's visual experience from measurements of brain activity alone. Imagine a general brain-reading device that could reconstruct a picture of a person's visual experience at any moment in time." It will inevitably also raise fears that a suspect's brain could be interrogated against their will, raising the nightmarish possibility of interrogation for "thought crimes".

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: brain; ctscan; judicial; medical
Sci-Fi writers have been predicting this for decades, especially Asimov..............
1 posted on 03/06/2008 11:12:04 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Women already knew what men were looking at more than 90% of the time.


2 posted on 03/06/2008 11:15:29 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

3 posted on 03/06/2008 11:15:30 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Red Badger

No doubt in my mind politicians and lawyers will get this outlawed.


4 posted on 03/06/2008 11:18:22 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: Red Badger

Brave New World


5 posted on 03/06/2008 11:20:42 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: gunnedah

I dunno, politicians might want to use it for political reasons. The LEOs would want it for criminal interrogations and lawyers would love to bring suits over all for everything!............


6 posted on 03/06/2008 11:21:12 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

7 posted on 03/06/2008 11:22:45 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Red Badger

This reminds me of the “Brainstormer” device from the GoBots cartoon series in the 80’s. Who says that life doesn’t imitate art, no matter how bad it was?


8 posted on 03/06/2008 11:24:06 AM PST by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
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To: gunnedah

Our rulers will outlaw its use on themselves, no doubt. But, do you think they will not impose its use on the ruled? Only, I think, if there is intense ‘extracurricular activity’ applied.


9 posted on 03/06/2008 11:24:15 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: TexasCajun

Where’s the FEMALE version?.........


10 posted on 03/06/2008 11:24:18 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
It will inevitably also raise fears that a suspect's brain could be interrogated against their will, raising the nightmarish possibility of interrogation for "thought crimes".

But if you have the image of a queer in your mind at one particular instant (ugh!), does that mean you are one of them or you are a good Christian person despising what they do? (The latter would probably be the one prosecuted in the thought control state) Guess they need to scan the limbic system also for emotional content. No end to the interpretation problems that would arise from this, not to mention the legal and ethical problems.

11 posted on 03/06/2008 11:24:44 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: live+let_live
Women already knew what men were looking at more than 90% of the time.Other women and/or certain parts of the female anatomy?
12 posted on 03/06/2008 11:25:32 AM PST by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: coydog

Issac Asimov had a Brain Scanner type device in many of his novels back in the 50’s and 60’s. It could only be used by court order, because of a danger of scrambling the person brain.............


13 posted on 03/06/2008 11:25:51 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

14 posted on 03/06/2008 11:26:10 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Red Badger

The headline is sensational and misleading. The machine cant read your mind or tell “what you are looking at”. Different parts of the brain are stimulated when looking at different things. They record the pattern of activity seen when looking at a hot girl and can predict when you are looking at a hot girl when they see the same regions light up. The pattern is diffent when looking at violent images etc.


15 posted on 03/06/2008 11:27:07 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: TexasCajun

Thank you, we must be “fair and balanced”.........


16 posted on 03/06/2008 11:27:39 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Hacklehead
The headline is sensational and misleading.

It's from the UK Guardian, what do you expect?........

17 posted on 03/06/2008 11:28:41 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: fella

“Women already knew what men were looking at more than 90% of the time.Other women and/or certain parts of the female anatomy?”

Women look at men too at the same rate.

Seems to me humans are not monogamous.


18 posted on 03/06/2008 11:29:37 AM PST by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Red Badger
Ever see this movie?


19 posted on 03/06/2008 11:32:16 AM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

Yes, it was wonderful......


20 posted on 03/06/2008 11:34:50 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: TexasCajun

LOL! Too funny.


21 posted on 03/06/2008 11:45:31 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Red Badger

There’s that one scene that always stands out for me.


22 posted on 03/06/2008 11:47:04 AM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

The “Death” recording?........


23 posted on 03/06/2008 11:49:06 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger; All

Based on the OP, the process cannot see images in the conscious mind. All the process does is return a number, 1 thru 10 in this example, based on testable brain states, which indicates a “pre-calibrated” picture.


24 posted on 03/06/2008 11:51:35 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

Eventually they will move into “images”, then, “pictures” then “photos”, and finally “thoughts” of a dangerous nature..............


25 posted on 03/06/2008 11:53:33 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

The one with that blond chick.


26 posted on 03/06/2008 11:54:57 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Red Badger

Borg hive mind bump.


27 posted on 03/06/2008 12:05:26 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Don't think I can vote for you John, I'm feelin' like a maverick.)
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To: gunnedah

You omitted the sarcasm tag.


28 posted on 03/06/2008 12:09:04 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Red Badger
The study raises the possibility in the future of the technology being harnessed to visualise scenes from a person's dreams or memory.

Not likely when most people themselves have no idea what they are looking at most of the time.

29 posted on 03/06/2008 12:10:49 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Red Badger
I think some people
already have these machines.
Some girls read my thoughts . . .

30 posted on 03/06/2008 12:12:41 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: JZelle

The one where the guy looped the part that is usually experienced for about 1.5 seconds?


31 posted on 03/06/2008 12:20:11 PM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Red Badger

Now we know why Carter admitted to the world that he “had lusted in my heart...”


32 posted on 03/06/2008 12:30:50 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
...he “had lusted in my heart...”

But he never told us WHO or WHAT...........

33 posted on 03/06/2008 12:32:35 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger; colorcountry; rightazrain; JRochelle
What's so great about this?

We already have FReepers who can read minds and motives from thousands of miles away with nothing more than a monitor and keyboard, and judge your morals to boot.

They then will give you a diagnosis for free.

34 posted on 03/06/2008 12:34:14 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We need 2 pills, one to prevent cancer , one to prevent old age...HURRY! I am past 60!)
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To: Red Badger

They already did this with a cat years ago. They had electrodes of some sort to transmit visual information from the cat to a computer that recreated the image pretty accurately.


35 posted on 03/06/2008 12:34:59 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Red Badger
"predict the images that people are looking at"

I think the author meant: "determine the images that people are looking at"

36 posted on 03/06/2008 12:37:05 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: greyfoxx39

and some even give you suggestions for treatment!.............


37 posted on 03/06/2008 12:41:08 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: greyfoxx39

ROTFL!


38 posted on 03/06/2008 12:42:01 PM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Red Badger

And usually the treatment is described with either a suggested place to go, or an obscene act to commit. ;)


39 posted on 03/06/2008 12:45:00 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (We need 2 pills, one to prevent cancer , one to prevent old age...HURRY! I am past 60!)
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To: Red Badger

The only purpose of such technology can be to identify and punish individual thought, IE. Conservatism.


40 posted on 03/06/2008 12:47:37 PM PST by omega4179 (b.Hussein)
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To: Red Badger

can it find out what you fear?

remember the guy with the rat cage on his head?


41 posted on 03/06/2008 1:21:43 PM PST by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Red Badger

Lawyers and politicians cannot live off of the truth!


42 posted on 03/06/2008 1:28:43 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: TexasCajun

That sex initiator gland is way too big.


43 posted on 03/06/2008 1:31:15 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Brush your hair and comb your teeth, honey - Obama's comin' to town!!!)
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To: gunnedah

No, but there’s good money in hiding it!............


44 posted on 03/06/2008 1:31:35 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: freedomlover

That’s the one.


45 posted on 03/06/2008 7:04:59 PM PST by JZelle
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