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Friends of the Earth Decry American Airlines Commercial Flight
Telegraph ^ | March 6, 2008 | David Millward

Posted on 03/06/2008 11:03:51 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark

A major airline is under fire from environmentalists for flying an aircraft across the Atlantic with only five passengers on board.

The flight from Chicago to London meant that the plane, a Boeing 777, used 22,000 gallons of fuel.

It led to American Airlines being accused of reckless behaviour by green lobby groups.

The latest "eco- scandal" flight took place on February 9 after American was forced to cancel one of its four daily services from Chicago to London.

While it was able to find places for nearly all the passengers on the fully-booked flight, five still had to be accommodated. Those who did fly were upgraded to the business class cabin.

But while they enjoyed lavish hospitality, the airline was accused of an "obscene waste of fuel" by Friends of the Earth.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airline; business; environmentalist; socialist
I want to know when Friends of the Earth has ever taken a stand on the following.

- Countless high profile celebrities flying private jets to and from environmental events.

- Countless government bureaucrats from every country in the world that went to Indonesia for the UN's summit on "climate change" that brought so many private planes the conference that the airport had no more ramp space.

- Arsonists destroying swaths of private property in this in other countries in the name of the environment.

It appears these boneheads don't know anything about the airline term deadheading when planes are frequently shuffled from one locale to another empty.

I can't stand the hypocrisy of these groups and their lack of understanding of the real world.

1 posted on 03/06/2008 11:03:52 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Clearly never heard the term “dead-head” for flights.


2 posted on 03/06/2008 11:05:35 AM PST by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
So now the 'Globalists' want flights to depart ONLY when there are enough passengers onboard to justify the environmental damage (as defined by THEM)???

It just keeps getting better and better....lol

You just can't make this stuff up!

3 posted on 03/06/2008 11:07:36 AM PST by stockstrader
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Calling Mr. Gore...


4 posted on 03/06/2008 11:07:42 AM PST by Edgar3 (Steve Spurrier for President!)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Sounds like a great flight. All the transatlantic flights I’ve been on have been packed. I’d love to be on this one!


5 posted on 03/06/2008 11:09:07 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
The left-wing anti humans said: “the airline was accused of an “obscene waste of fuel” by Friends of the Earth.”

Like most all of these anti human organizations they will take every action and lie every day about something that has NO meaning on the lives of we humans.

They want all humans to be destroyed or put under the yoke of the left wing tyrants like Hitler and Stalin.

Anytime I get the chance i tell my elected representative that to vote to help these people is to vote against the United States and for the Nazi.

6 posted on 03/06/2008 11:09:17 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
But while they enjoyed lavish hospitality, the airline was accused of an "obscene waste of fuel" by Friends of the Earth.

Being a business, AA cannot return the favor by calling FOE "an obscene waste of oxygen."

But I can.

7 posted on 03/06/2008 11:09:45 AM PST by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

They’ve never b1tched about Algore (manbearpig) taking a big-ass jet all around the world, certainly less full than a commercial jet of the same size.


8 posted on 03/06/2008 11:10:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

I guess it depends on whose ox is GOREd.


9 posted on 03/06/2008 11:11:52 AM PST by Argus
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
I can see it now.....

SETTING: Airport terminal of your choice

ANNOUNCEMENT:

"Flight 123 has been cancelled by the Global Environment Commission due to excessive carbon emissions/person. The next time you book a flight, please ensure that that particular flight has enough passengers onboard to justify the environmental damage. Thank you for considering American Airlines for your travel plans."

10 posted on 03/06/2008 11:12:38 AM PST by stockstrader
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

I want to know if ANY Friends of the Earth actually have & use a clothes line?


11 posted on 03/06/2008 11:14:10 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

RE: the first point.

John Travolta flying his “entourage” to Singapore aboard his 737 (or 717?). Fuel surely approaches 22K gallons of Jet A.


12 posted on 03/06/2008 11:21:48 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

If it was Al Gore and a couple of his buddies in the plane, then these evironMENTALs would ignore it and pretend it didn’t happen.


13 posted on 03/06/2008 11:22:08 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life Member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Puppage
I want to know if ANY Friends of the Earth actually have & use a clothes line?

That would assume that they actually bathe & wash their clothes, which in their view would waste valuable water and dump toxic chemicals, a.k.a. soap, into the environment.

14 posted on 03/06/2008 11:22:12 AM PST by Smittie
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

If the plane had been full it would have been just “a waste of fuel” However since there were only 5 passengers it is an “OBSCENE waste of fuel”


15 posted on 03/06/2008 11:23:48 AM PST by technically right
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

It’s a 707. An old, inefficient airliner. It would probably burn way more fuel than a new 777.


16 posted on 03/06/2008 11:25:53 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: dbehsman

FotE are idiots. The plane would have made the trip anyway within the next 24 hours likely burning a higher volume of fuel.

AA accomodated some unhappy (now & future) passengers. Great customer relations, I’d say.


17 posted on 03/06/2008 11:26:43 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (My other car is in the driveway collecting carbon credits.)
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To: technically right
If the plane had been full it would have been just “a waste of fuel” However since there were only 5 passengers it is an “OBSCENE waste of fuel”

Of course these morons don't realize that many commercial flights also carry a great deal of cargo!! Will that count when evaluating the environmental damage that is done by a particular flight? (I guess my fictitious GEC will make that determination too)

Geee,,,I guess that all cargo carriers will have to be evaluated for the proper level of cargo onboard too!!! You can't make this stuff up!!...lol

18 posted on 03/06/2008 11:29:02 AM PST by stockstrader
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To: ltc8k6

Thanks, I knew it was a 7X fuselage.

Still, since it is Travolta, it can’t be OBSCENE, right?


19 posted on 03/06/2008 11:29:11 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (The new wonder commodity: carbon credits)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Aside from the FOE howling, this was pretty stupid from a business standpoint. The fuel cost would have been staggering, and it’s hard to imagine that 5 more passengers couldn’t have been bought off for less than the fuel cost. And I seriously doubt that airlines are “dead-heading” jumbo jets across the Atlantic these days, just to get planes from one place to another.


20 posted on 03/06/2008 11:32:51 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

They’ll never complain about Albore doing it on his private jet.


21 posted on 03/06/2008 11:35:06 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

algore was traveling?


22 posted on 03/06/2008 11:37:35 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

There was a USAirways pilot I knew that used to fly the Pittsburgh to Frankfurt route.

He stated they made enough money carrying cargo that they could fly the plane completely empty of passengers and still make money on the route, passenger income was pure gravy.


23 posted on 03/06/2008 11:40:59 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Puppage
"I want to know if ANY Friends of the Earth actually have & use a clothes line?"

I remember those!

24 posted on 03/06/2008 11:42:00 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

In a rational world, it would be the stockholders who would be decrying the minor damage to the company’s bottom line, not some teenagers whining about minor amounts of carbon.


25 posted on 03/06/2008 11:47:23 AM PST by Teacher317 (Wafa Sultan is my heroine!)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Why didn’t they buy all the empty seats and donate them to the needy? Fellow enviro-Nazi’s perhaps? One way of course.


26 posted on 03/06/2008 11:54:48 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
"Friends of the Earth"

If they are truly 'Friends of the Earth' they'll do the Earth a favor and off themselves. Naturally in a Carbon Neutral manner, like hanging - so they can all use the same rope.


27 posted on 03/06/2008 12:02:12 PM PST by Condor51 (If my nose was runnin' money, I'd blow it all on you.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

John “Thetan” Revolta flies a B-707.

Must be nice.

I’d do it, too, if I could afford it.


28 posted on 03/06/2008 12:04:20 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Aside from the FOE howling, this was pretty stupid from a business standpoint.

Because as soon as other airline execs hear about AA being nice to passengers, the AA board is going to be drummed out of every country club on the planet. AA's action was a total violation of the airline version of sharia law.

29 posted on 03/06/2008 12:05:34 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: GovernmentShrinker

> Aside from the FOE howling, this was pretty stupid
> from a business standpoint. The fuel cost would have
> been staggering, and it’s hard to imagine that 5 more
> passengers couldn’t have been bought off for less than
> the fuel cost.

The article said AA needed to reposition the equipment in any case, so might as well take some pax. And, as some one else pointed out, there’s always cargo.


30 posted on 03/06/2008 12:08:18 PM PST by MikeGranby
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To: MikeGranby
The article said AA needed to reposition the equipment in any case, so might as well take some pax. And, as some one else pointed out, there’s always cargo.

Thanks, that's what I suspected.

31 posted on 03/06/2008 12:18:46 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: edcoil

Methinks the Environmental Jihad is entering stage 3.


32 posted on 03/06/2008 12:24:55 PM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Let the market sort it out! I am sure the twits at Friends of the Earth can’t imagine it - but Airlines do not want to buy fuel at $4/gallon for only 5 passengers either. The FREE-market will always make the best allocation of resources.


33 posted on 03/06/2008 12:35:01 PM PST by PGR88
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

bump for later


34 posted on 03/06/2008 1:17:02 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: edcoil

None of those vile busybodies is an airline CEO or CFO and none has the faintest idea of how to use airliners most efficiently to produce the highest possible return to the stockholders per seat mile flown, and the lowest fuel cost. It would be nice to see some of those “critics” try to run an airline.


35 posted on 03/06/2008 1:23:36 PM PST by libstripper
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Aside from the FOE howling, this was pretty stupid from a business standpoint. The fuel cost would have been staggering, and it’s hard to imagine that 5 more passengers couldn’t have been bought off for less than the fuel cost. And I seriously doubt that airlines are “dead-heading” jumbo jets across the Atlantic these days, just to get planes from one place to another.

Huh? We have to assume that scheduled airlines have round trip flights. If you cancel a flight you still have to figure out how to get the passengers waiting on the other side of the pond onto flights coming home.

Are you suggesting that it would have been cheaper for the airline to put the excess London passengers into hotels overnight?

Also airlines have long-term cargo customers who in turn have customers waiting on the other end for their scheduled shipments.

I'm sure the airline staff ran the numbers and made a decision they could defend to their supervisors.

In airlines were run by socialists, they all be shuttle flights. You'd show up at the airport days beforehand, like cattle at a railhead where you'd have to justify your trip to a bureaucrat and pay your carbon tax before you could get a numbered boarding pass. You'd be packed in like on a subway car holding onto a handgrip the whole trip.

36 posted on 03/06/2008 1:25:22 PM PST by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Every single day I see city buses running their routes hour after hour almost completely empty.

Why?

Because groups such as Friends of the Earth insist upon and bully communities into building wildly over-expensive and under-used “public transportation systems.”

Get a clue.


37 posted on 03/06/2008 1:42:07 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
I was glad to see the article explain the airline's reasoning for making the flight. I makes perfect sense to me.

"With such a small passenger load we did consider whether we could cancel the flight and re-accommodate the five remaining passengers on other flights.

"However, this would have left a plane load of west-bound passengers stranded in London Heathrow who were due to fly back to the US on the same aircraft.

"We sought alternative flights for the west-bound passengers but heavy loads out of London that day meant that this was not possible."


38 posted on 03/06/2008 2:14:02 PM PST by goldfinch
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

These protesters have waaaay too much time on their hands and no knowledge of how commercial airlines operate.


39 posted on 03/06/2008 3:03:48 PM PST by Darlin' (oh.... phooey.... lost my tagline.... again)
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40 posted on 03/06/2008 4:40:37 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

BFL.


41 posted on 03/07/2008 1:47:48 AM PST by Fire_on_High (Cthulu 08! Why vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Interesting.


42 posted on 03/07/2008 7:33:58 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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