Posted on 03/01/2008 2:40:50 PM PST by blam
“If it steals it from your DNA, that could be a major calamity.”
Any examples?
Happens all the time, it’s a mutation. But Nuclear DNA has very efficient methods of finding and repairing defects.
Go here to learn more about free radicals and antioxidants.
http://www.benbest.com/nutrceut/AntiOxidants.html
Go here to read about the seven or so general reasons we get old.
http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/aging.html
The most pertinent reasons are:
Mitochondria degradation
Oxidative damage
Glycation (cross linked proteins)
Overload of the cells disposal systems (lysosome failure)
Telomere depletion
Then tell me how to stop it.
I have taken vits for well over 40 years, and at the time I was going thru menopause, instead of the 400 IU’s, I took 800 a day, divided into two dosages...after a couple years, I went back to the 400IU’s. Oh, and I’m 75 years old and none the worse for taking many vits for all these years.
This is just proof that the big drug companies....as in international conglomerates, are in the process of seeing their goal come to fruition, after years of lobbying, and millions of influence dollars going to people in positions of power, to finally gain control of the vitamin sales...going to make it a mandate that we go to a Dr. first and get what will be a prescription, and supposedly there will be more than a few vitamins that will no longer be available...period. I think each of us has a line where, when it is crossed, we'll stand up and say NO MORE, I'm mad as he## and I'm not taking it any more...maybe it will happen when the gov. takes our guns, or maybe our property...or maybe our right as a FREE people to be able to choose between taking drugs or buying vitamins, as in many cases some chronic illnesses respond just as well to certain vitamins as to a high priced drug...and without the nasty side effects that seem to go along with so many drugs. Have you thought about what your line may be?
The very best way would be if you had some of your own stem cells from your own placenta when you were born.
Other than that, the only thing I can tell ya is what the commercial says:
I shoulda had a V-8!
The study was paid for by the AAAC, the American Association of Ambulance Chasers
Lawywers are marking their targets
How long is long enough?
Yes, you are getting to the underlying issue. Vitamins are generally much safer than drugs. Vitamins are not patentable. Nor are they covered by insurance. Many root causes of disease revolve around nutritional/vitamin deficiencies. Vitamins can reverse damage and disease, if it is not too far gone, more safely and less expensively than drugs.
For the ignorant guy who said to get your vitamins from your food, you won’t get any from processed foods. The natural fruits and veggies we have in the market now are steadily losing vitamins compared to what they used to contain 20, 30, and 50 years ago due to depletion of the soils. They have been studied and measured. You cannot get the necessary healthy amounts of vitamins from food alone anymore.
THAT'S the term I was wracking my brain for! Don't know why it eluded me. I gave myself a crash course in relative vs absolute risk some years back when trying to sort out medical recommendations for a relative who was being pressured into treatment via impressive stats for "increased survival rates." Turned out that, once broken down, the numbers used to argue for the treatment were just about equal in absolute terms to the placebo group. Worse, the actual death rate associated with the treatment exceeded the so-called benefit percentages. So yeah, I get honked off at using numbers to justify crap.
What are you asking? Be specific.
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"Molecular biology is now forcing us to re-think the idea that a low measured value of vitamin D means we simply must add more to our diet. Supplemental vitamin D has been used for decades, and yet the epidemics of chronic disease, such as heart disease and obesity, are just getting worse."
"Our disease model has shown us why low levels of vitamin D are observed in association with major and chronic illness," Marshall added. "Vitamin D is a secosteroid hormone, and the body regulates the production of all it needs. In fact, the use of supplements can be harmful, because they suppress the immune system so that the body cannot fight disease and infection effectively."
Marshall's research has demonstrated how ingested vitamin D can actually block VDR activation, the opposite effect to that of Sunshine. Instead of a positive effect on gene expression, Marshall reported that his own work, as well as the work of others, shows that quite nominal doses of ingested vitamin D can suppress the proper operation of the immune system. It is a different metabolite, a secosteroid hormone called 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, which activates the VDR to regulate the expression of the genes. Under conditions that exist in infection or inflammation, the body automatically regulates its production of all the vitamin D metabolites, including 25-hydroxyvitamin D, the metabolite which is usually measured to indicate vitamin D status.
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You're right. It is difficult to get the proper sunlight. But it is possible to get saturated with enough sunlight-induced vitamin D to get one through a long winter.
Dr. Melik: (listing items Miles had requested for breakfast) "... wheat germ, organic honey, and... Tiger's Milk."
Dr. Aragon: "Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties."
Dr. Melik: "You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?"
Dr. Aragon: "Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true."
Life imitates art.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1918976/posts
They can have my Vitamin C when they pry it from my cold dead hand. In the other hand will be a steel device that projects high velocity particles of lead.
This is the best information I've ever found on Vitamin D research. (He is a proponent of supplementation. I don't have a problem with supplements, I just think sunlight is preferable.) TONS of information, backed up with facts.
Thanks! Will check it out.
I am a great believer in supplements, and take 4-6 thousand IU’s a day.
I think it is becoming more generally recognized that you CAN’T get everything you need from your diet.
Just to get the optimal amount of Vitamin C, you’d have to eat like a dozen oranges!
lung cancer is a recent phenomena.
In 1878, lung cancer was less than 1% of all cancers. As late as 1912, the medical profession agreed that lung cancers were rare. By 1930 it was approx. 14% of all cancers. Today it's approx. 12% or 25% or 13% ( depending on whoever's stats you buy into )of all cancers.
a woman born in 1900 was estimated to live to 51 years old
a man born in 1900 was estimated to live until 48.
A man born in 1949 had a life expectancy of 66 years.
today, the probability of a man getting lung cancer from birth to age 39 is 1 in 3164.
from age 40 to 59 it drops to 1 in 95.
from age 60 to 79 it drops to 1 in 17.
the one common denominator of lung cancer is age...with 50 being the magic starting number
OK. So I’m ‘old’. ;-)
“Don’t believe a word the b#stards tell you and you’ll probably outlive all of them”
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