We're #1! We're #1!
Posted on 02/29/2008 5:13:51 AM PST by Carbonsteel
NEW YORK — More than one in every 100 American adults is in jail or prison — making the United States the world's incarceration leader, according to a new report tracking the surge in U.S. inmate population.
The report, released Thursday by the Pew Center on the States, urged U.S. states to curtail corrections spending by placing fewer low-risk offenders behind bars.
"The United States imprisons more people than any country in the world," the report said. Using updated state-by-state data, it said more than 2.3 million adults were held in U.S. prisons or jails at the start of 2008 — or one of every 99.1 adults out of a total population of some 230 million adults.
The numbers put the United States far ahead of more populous China, which it said has 1.5 million people behind bars, and Russia, which has 890,000. The Pew report cited January statistics from the "World Prison Brief" released by the International Center for Prison Studies at London's King's College.
It also said the U.S. — with 750 inmates per 100,000 people — "is the global leader in the rate at which it incarcerates its citizenry, outpacing nations like South Africa and Iran."
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and how many of them really ARE Americans??
Maybe these people should stop breaking the law (just a thought).
Yeah, but the US doesn't shoot inmates and sell 'em for spare parts.
This is because we are a nation of laws. I was down in some rough part of Caracas, Venezuela a couple of weeks ago. What I saw there was much lawlessness, drunkenness, a survival of the fittest culture. Believe me when I say this, we in America have a lot to be thankful for.
That’s what i was thinking: maybe we’re locking more up because we have stupid laws...?
Comparisons to China and Russia are misleading. The US prefers to store their crminals while those countries might just eliminate some.
That's a part of it, but probably it has more to do with the fact that we are moderate in our dealings with criminals. We don't go too lenient, like they do in Europe, and just give you time served and probation for murder, nor do we shoot you in the back of the head because we need your kidneys, like they are wont to do in China.
We're #1! We're #1!
This problem is easily solved. Just make crime legal.
“The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. “
Ayn Rand.
Mark
That’s because there are too few executions...
Steve Martin: "I FORGOT that murder was a crime."
Somalia, Darfur, and Kenya have no prisons. The concept of a prison system is considered a waste of resources in much of the world.
The Corrections officers I talked to are tired of these young students getting locked up for dumb ‘crimes’ and being placed next to violent offenders. But the CO's also know that lots of money comes from mommies and daddies paying fines for these students. Then taxpayers had to lock them up and pay for a new prison.
The WOD is a scam on taxpayers perpetrated by the law-enforcement "industry".
These statistics are not that difficult. The authorities DO know how many people they have in jail, and who they are.
The numbers were "especially startling" for some groups, the report said. "While one in 30 men between the ages of 20 and 34 is behind bars, for black males in that age group the figure is one in nine." Hm, 1 in 9.. That's a pretty dire situation.
Only about 20% are there for drug related crimes -- dealing and trafficking. Put another way, we could set them all free and we'd still be number one. By a huge margin.
In 2003, 68% of prison and jail inmates were members of racial or ethnic minority groups. More minorities are in prison than in college. Remove them from the statistic, and we drop from 2.3 million to 740,000 -- less than Russia.
It is not like we just lock people up arbitrarily. Those folks in our prisons are there because a judge and jury determined that they needed to be punished for committing one or more crimes. This high rate of incarceration probably says a lot about the break down of our society more than anything else.
We went out to one of the nicer restaurants one evening. Our taxi was met by the doorman armed with an AK-47. I kid you not.
But, hey. I bet their incarceration rate is lower.
I'll take your word for how bad it was there, but you can find what you've described in any US inner city.
I wrote a book on this subject called “The Spirit Set Me Free” (Paulist Press) available on Amazon.com
It features ordinary men and woman from across the country who discovered Christ where they least expected to — in prison.
Frederick Hermann
If you do the crime, you must do the time.
The widely cited figure of 1/3 foreigners in our jails is for FEDERAL prisons, which hold only about 10% of all prisoners (and, of course, concentrate on smuggling, immigration and other offenses whre foreigners would be overrepresented). A DOJ reports says only about 10% of the total number of prisoners in the US are foreigners. Check the site for “Bureau of Justice Statistics.”
It surprises me that there are no illegal aliens in state prisons. There’s no illegal in San Quentin?
Not none — I didn’t say that — just not 1/3, on a nationwide basis.
SOLUTION: Let all the law abiding live behind the protected prison walls, let all the convicts out. Soon the convicts will have all killed themselves in gang wars leaving us with a new start.
Reminds me of the French Quarter in New Orleans BEFORE Katrina hit. Lot’s of razor wire, too. And it’s still like that today...
Excellent quote. The same could be said for taxation, too.....
Begs the question: Why do do many people in such a wealthy country decide to break the law?
1 in every 31 adults, were incarcerated or on probation or parole at yearend 2006."
The story isn’t how many people are locked up, the story here is the necessity of having to lock these people up. Locking up crimnals is a reaction to their behavior and their personal choice to commit crime. Jail or prison is where they need to be.
With freedom comes great responsibility. Some can’t handle either.
The reason why we have so many people in jail is simple: We have a lot of crime.
Another problem is that a lot of them discover muhamad in there too.
Or, they could follow the best line in “Liar, Liar” -
“STOP BREAKING THE LAW, 4$$h013!”
Sure. Dead people are no longer considered "incarcerated".
In most cases, you don’t get sent to prison for selling a few grams on the 1st offense. Those locked up for that have already been through the WOD system maybe a half dozen times before the judge got tired of looking at them.
No smoking, seatbelt laws, helmets on tots, yada, yada, yada.
Seems that some people have nothing better to do than find ways to discourage the rights of others. We call ‘em Nanny Laws.
Of course, there are people too stupid for common sense, but IMHO, those are the ones creating new laws.
There is one fewer than there should be.
And we dont hang them as fast as we used to.
We wouldn’t nearly have the repeat offenders if we hung more of them.
“Begs the question: Why do do many people in such a wealthy country decide to break the law?”
Consequences of a failed welfare state and a popular culture that glorifies thugs and promotes unrealistic expectations of easy money?
“It made my heart ache, you know, to see all these beautiful black men in the joint. The warriors should be out there helping the masses. I felt that way, I was real naive. Six weeks I was up there and I talked to the brothers. I talked to ‘em, and ... thank God we got penitentiaries!” - Richard Pryor
In drug sane states it's true.
Here in Penn State, I knew several students sentenced to months for selling around 3 grams of weed. Many brilliant Engineering students that didn't realize how much sh** they could get into.
Over here, you must either do time for selling or rat somebody out.
An old buddy of mine was set-up by a "girlfriend" in this town. He sold her some of his Rx painkillers and she was an informant. The guy was highly regarded in the Business school and already had a job lined up for 200k after graduation.
He never sold anything before but the mandatory minimum was something like a year.
The whole thing ruined his life and he killed himself last year. A victim of the drug war that turns friends into "informants".
Amen!
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