Posted on 02/28/2008 11:26:26 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
I hate the entrapment statutes. If it’s a crime then don’t do it!!!!! The intent of the perp was to do something vile. Now his loved ones want to complain that his shame in being caught and killing himself is NBC’s fault? This scumbag wanted to have sex with a minor.
I have no desire to watch this show, just want to know what the lure was. If the lure was "come to a party, young boys will be there" would be clear entrapment, since no mention of sex is present. The key is the lure.
“Law enforcement and protection of the innocent, yes. Entertainment, no.”
I am with you. The people that make this show and the people who watch this show think it’s entertaining? I bet they were the same ones who thought pulling the legs off of bugs and setting the cats tail on fire was entertaining as children.
It's because they want to rape children. Children like YOURS. People too young to comprehend that they are not finding "love" but being used for an immoral, BAD man's masturbatory fantasy. And they want it so much that they are willing to hurt people and risk their own safety, freedom, and reputation.
How many molested children end up committing suicide?
>>Critics of the show say it is a form of entrapment, and they have questioned NBC’s partnership on the series with an online vigilante group called Perverted-Justice.<<
It is entrapment. That doesn’t make it illegal. Its like offering Marion Barry crack - if your point is to show he is willing to do crack then you’ve made your point. If you try to stretch that and say he would have sought out crack - that may not be true.
If you have a prosecutor that is willing to sleep with children, we need to know that.
I am somewhat sympathetic to the folks who think this guy deserved his shame and exposure.
On the other hand, this guy never actually harmed anybody. He preyed on nobody. He had no sex with underage kids.
He sent messages to an adult posing as 13-year-old who sent him enticing messages back. He fell for the trap.
Maybe he was a POTENTIAL pedophile, maybe not. Maybe he was a fool. This is dark stuff and I think NBC made a mistake when it stirred this stuff up and filmed the result.
You hit the nail on the head.
Well, of course! Louis Conradt's wanting to rape little children was in no way responsible for destroying his reputation! And I'm sure they'll find the coroner's report was flawed in labeling Conradt's death a suicide. It had to be murder, you just know it.
</dripping sarcasm>
The guy was a DA but behaved at home like the dirtbags he was sworn to protect our children from.
He got caught, he knew he was caught and he probably had a good clue about what would happen to him in the general population of a prison yard he helped fill up.
He could have stood up and accepted the consequences for his behavior, but he chose to be a coward and kill himself.
Good riddance, and someone else’s child is safe tonight.
>>Why these saps continue to walk into traps is a mystery to me.
I think Yaelle has it right.
Now there is a middle area. I was talking to a female friend this week who got married when she was 17 and is single now in her 40’s for the first time. She was lacking in some basic online knowledge - making it clear that you will only date someone of legal age, meeting only in a public place, never agreeing to any private activity in advance, making it clear you will leave the initial meeting separately. And avoiding anyone who doesn’t agree with all that.
I can understand how an adult could wind up meeting with a teen who is lying about their age.
This case is different - the undercover “boy” was clear that he was a child and the meeting would be private and for sex - there is just no grey area. Back 5+ years when I dated online I’m pretty sure I ran into the Perverted justice people (or some other law enforcement related group) on AOL several times.
The second I said that not only would I only date adults but that if she looked like she was under 25 I would insist on seeing proof of age, there was an immediate sense of “you passed - next suspect please.”
“How many molested children end up committing suicide?”
That’s if they survive the encounter. On that show, there was a few molesters found with rope and duct tape in their car.
Usually the perps kill and bury the victim.
You're assuming that this was his first attempt at raping a child.
He sent messages to an adult posing as 13-year-old who sent him enticing messages back. He fell for the trap.
Police do it all the time. The pedophiles are tried and convicted for intent, and those convictions are unassailable.
I don't think we know this. Could this have been the very first time he met with a young boy for sex? Sure. Is it likely? Not really. It is much more likely he'd been doing this for years.
He sent messages to an adult posing as 13-year-old who sent him enticing messages back. He fell for the trap.
I too am somewhat disturbed by prosecutions for immoral activities with a child when there is no actual child involved. He thought he was communicating with a young boy, but wasn't really. Leans towards thought crime, in some ways.
I dunno. Watching the naked guy chase the cat around the house while carrying a tub of cool whip was pretty funny. And when the host implored him to cover himself with a towel so they could talk was just classic.
>>Critics of the show say it is a form of entrapment
I dunno, I don’t see how it is entrapment when the adults using a child’s profile don’t initiate any conversation, repeatedly state that they are underage, they do not initiate sex-talk, and let the pervs dig their own deep graves.
I do agree though - call it whatever - If the pervs are busy talking to an adult posing as a child, hopefully they’re not putting any children in danger.
DA Chuck Rosenthal was a rotten Republican.
Just my 2 cents' worth.
(Donning flames retardant suit)
>>I dunno, I don’t see how it is entrapment when the adults using a child’s profile don’t initiate any conversation, repeatedly state that they are underage, they do not initiate sex-talk, and let the pervs dig their own deep graves.
I do agree though - call it whatever - If the pervs are busy talking to an adult posing as a child, hopefully they’re not putting any children in danger.<<
I thought the undercover’s did initiate. Its even more legitimate if they never initiate. The one’s on AOL that I thought were undercover were definitely initiating.
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