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Ark. Catholics asked to stop donations to (Susan G.) Komen foundation
AP/Houston Chronicle ^ | 2-26-08 | Jon Gambrell

Posted on 02/27/2008 1:28:58 PM PST by STARWISE

A breast cancer foundation known for its fundraising races across the globe faces increased scrutiny from Roman Catholic church dioceses for its support of Planned Parenthood.

The church's Little Rock diocese has urged its members not to donate to the Susan G. Komen for the Cure foundation, which has invested about $1 billion in cancer outreach and research. The reason, church leaders say, comes from the Dallas-based foundation giving money to Planned Parenthood to hold breast exams and offer education to women in its clinics.

"Donors cannot control how an organization designates its funds," the diocese statement reads. "Therefore, money donated for a specific service ... directly frees up funds to support other areas of an organization's agenda."

Marianne Linane, director of the diocese's "respect life" office, said those other agendas include abortions and contraceptive services. The Catholic church's policy is that abortion is wrong in every instance.

Linane said the Little Rock diocese, which oversees all churches in Arkansas, used the same statement sent out by the church's St. Louis diocese last year. However, the end of the Little Rock letter included addresses of Arkansas hospitals parishioners could donate to that would eliminate "the administrative funds for a middle broker."

Monsignor J. Gaston Hebert sent the statement to parishes and Catholic schools this month and planned to send out a follow-up letter, Linane said. Hebert did not return a call for comment Tuesday.

The Little Rock diocese's decision comes as northwest Arkansas prepares for its running of the Race for the Cure on April 19. Officials estimated Little Rock's running last year brought out more than 43,000 participants and raised more than $1.65 million.

Little Rock follows other dioceses in raising concerns with the foundation.

In 2005, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Charleston abandoned its support of the foundation.

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"It's insignificant (potential loss of Catholic contributions) in relation to all of the funding we do," Gibson said. "I think it's just really unfortunate undue attention is being shed on organizations that are providing vital services ((insert the vital service)) in those communities."

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Finally .. some word is getting out about them. They are BIG funders of Planned Parenthood, and the reason I haven't contributed to their causes since I learned.

PLEASE pass this along ... folks just naturally assume it's a worthy cause; my former workplace has an annual Susan G. Komen walk for the cure, as do many. Their PR, lobbying and seemingly exclusively breast cancer efforts are immense, but deceptive. You sure don't get the whole picture unless you dig for it.

1 posted on 02/27/2008 1:29:19 PM PST by STARWISE
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~~PING!


2 posted on 02/27/2008 1:30:38 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
They are BIG funders of Planned Parenthood, and the reason I haven't contributed to their causes since I learned.

Another way of putting this is that they are basically a front for Planned Parenthood.

3 posted on 02/27/2008 1:32:24 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei
They also suck about handing out the monies collected.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4509

4 posted on 02/27/2008 1:34:16 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: STARWISE
I guess their new slogan is: "Fighting breast cancer by making sure that fewer people with breasts are actually born."

It's simply amazing to me that Planned Barrenhood has gotten its claws into SO many charitable organizations. Are the the people running these groups stupid or are they part of the problem?
5 posted on 02/27/2008 1:34:17 PM PST by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: STARWISE

I’ve lost an aunt to breast cancer, and my mother in law is currently struggling to live with stage-4 breast cancer. I ran/walked as a fundraiser for Komen once many years ago, but as soon as I heard about how they choose to spend their funds, it stopped.

I am much, much, much more careful about where my charitable giving goes. Finding a good church is the best way to make sure your contributions go to truly good works.


6 posted on 02/27/2008 1:34:33 PM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: STARWISE

How does killing babies benefit breast cancer research??


7 posted on 02/27/2008 1:36:41 PM PST by marinamuffy (I'm no fan of McCain but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary or the Obamanation.)
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To: STARWISE

http://www.lifeissues.org/AbortionBreastcancer/komen/fact_sheet.pdf


8 posted on 02/27/2008 1:37:16 PM PST by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: STARWISE

I’d like more info on this. IF the money to Planned Parenthood id to fund breast exams or pamphlets about breast cancer, I would not condemn that activity, meaning the distribution of info about breast cancer. However, I’m not interested in giving to Komen in order to fund Planned Parenthood at any level. Especially because it appears both abortion and oral contraceptives increase risks for breast cancer.


9 posted on 02/27/2008 1:38:13 PM PST by Williams
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To: STARWISE

I ran for them twice. Now I don’t.


10 posted on 02/27/2008 1:40:12 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Puppage

I think you are misreading those statistics, well over 80% of what they raise is spent on the programs they sponsor, and they are given a good rating in that regard.


11 posted on 02/27/2008 1:40:47 PM PST by Williams
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To: All

WONDERFUL NEWS.

The Diocese here in Phoenix recently denounced the Komen Foundation.
I never miss a chance to inform “Race for the Cure” cultists (who hit me up for donations)about the Komen-Planned Parenthood-abortion connection. I refuse to donate and always give my reasons why.

Most of the Komen cultists are liberal feel-gooders, the kind of women who will vote for Hillary! because “she’s worked so hard and she deserves to be president”. LOL


12 posted on 02/27/2008 1:41:15 PM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: STARWISE

“Therefore, money donated for a specific service ... directly frees up funds to support other areas of an organization’s agenda.”

Same problem with the United Way and their directed donations scheme.


13 posted on 02/27/2008 1:41:23 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: All

WONDERFUL NEWS.

The Diocese here in Phoenix recently denounced the Komen Foundation.
I never miss a chance to inform “Race for the Cure” cultists (who hit me up for donations)about the Komen-Planned Parenthood-abortion connection. I refuse to donate and always give my reasons why.

Most of the Komen cultists are liberal feel-gooders, the kind of women who will vote for Hillary! because “she’s worked so hard and she deserves to be president”. LOL


14 posted on 02/27/2008 1:41:25 PM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: marinamuffy
How does killing babies benefit breast cancer research??

From a feminist's perspective, it's another kind of unwanted tissue. Just helping out the sisterhood with a little extra cash.

15 posted on 02/27/2008 1:42:14 PM PST by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: STARWISE

Good advice for non-Catholics as well. I stopped my donations as soon as I learned their connection with PP.


16 posted on 02/27/2008 1:42:58 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: RooRoobird20

I think it was Komen who called me for a donation last year, and reminded me that I had previously been a supporter. I told them I had no intention of providing any support in light of their support of PP, and got hung up on.


17 posted on 02/27/2008 1:45:14 PM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: RooRoobird20

Good to know .. and thanks for
passing this along. Such a
sham.


18 posted on 02/27/2008 2:02:12 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: polymuser; Williams

Thank you for the link.

Read link @ #8.


19 posted on 02/27/2008 2:13:25 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Deut28

Sorry for your family sorrows.
The churches are the best way.


20 posted on 02/27/2008 2:15:13 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: marinamuffy
How does killing babies benefit breast cancer research??

By raising the breast-cancer rate. Where would a breast-cancer foundation be without breast cancer?

21 posted on 02/27/2008 2:16:58 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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FYI ~~ PING !


22 posted on 02/27/2008 2:37:05 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
OK, I read the link. The most significant clear statement in there is that the founder of Komen has a relationship with Planned Parenthood, and I would assume she is therefore sympathetic to PP.

However, I read it carefully and the rest was avoiding meeting issues head on. Komen has given some money to PP. The article implies but does not state the money was used for things other than breast cancer awareness. Statements like (paraphrasing) "Komen gave PP $447,000 in a city." Next sentence: "PP built a $15 million facility."

Also recites that abortion is linked to breast cancer and that Komen denies that link. But it does not clearly state that Komen gives PP any $$ that go toward anything other than breat exams and info about breast cancer.

Just to explain, I am not thrilled by breast cancer charities because I'd like to see the money go toward medical cures not just awareness and feel good endeavors. I'm just not certain that Komen is giving money to fund abortions, which is the implication here.

23 posted on 02/27/2008 2:37:30 PM PST by Williams
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To: All

The potential twisted irony of their charity ~~

http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/abc.html


24 posted on 02/27/2008 2:40:05 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Williams

ANY money given to Planned Parenthood
furthers their agenda.


25 posted on 02/27/2008 2:41:35 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Certainly a valid point you are making. However, I personally would not defund Komen because it gives PP money that is used for breast exams. OTOH, I would rather give my money to research facilities that have a chance at finding a cure.


26 posted on 02/27/2008 2:47:09 PM PST by Williams
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To: Williams

It doesn’t matter. Because once you give them money, they can than shift money they were originally going to use on that expenditure to fund other things.

For example, let’s say X earns $2500 a month, he spend $1500 a month on food + rent+utilities, and the other $1000 he spends on his drug addiction. If I come along and says, I’ll pay for his food and rent, and will write X a check for $1500 a month.

I can fool myself into thinking I’m paying for his necessities, and he may really use the actual money I gave him to pay for them. But he still spends $1500 a month on his necessities, but now he’s spend $2500 a month on drugs. So my money really went to pay for his drugs.


27 posted on 02/27/2008 2:50:39 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the info. I had no idea they contributed to PP. Which raises another question - why is a nonprofit contributing to another nonprofit?


28 posted on 02/27/2008 2:50:59 PM PST by Heartland Mom (Build the fence, secure our borders, deport illegals - Protect our sovereignty!)
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To: Heartland Mom

I kick myself that I didn’t
look into it in depth myself
because liberals are so
unfailingly predictable.
And the excel at smokescreens
and manipulation.


29 posted on 02/27/2008 3:09:29 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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bump!


30 posted on 02/27/2008 3:11:23 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Puppage

That link shows it as a “highly rated” charity -

But I still have a huge problem with them giving ANYTHING to Planned Parenthood.


31 posted on 02/27/2008 3:25:41 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: All

Planned Parenthood vehmently denies that Komen Foundation money is used to pay for abortions........but they refuse to open their books for scrutiny. (”Women’s privacy issues, blah, blah, save it.....”)

Any money given to Planned Parenthood for any reason through any venue SUBSIDIZES ABORTIONS. Planned Parenthood relies on “federal grants” and stealth fundraising because they know their main gravy train(abortions) is becoming more and more unacceptable.


32 posted on 02/27/2008 3:49:18 PM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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33 posted on 02/27/2008 3:51:48 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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well over 80% of what they raise is spent on the programs they sponsor

Does anyone have statistics on their advertising budget? In January, our supermarket shelves were stocked with Susan G. Komen advertisements on everything from Campbell's Soup to Betty Crocker and even local bakery manufacturers. That costs $$$ to have packaging redesigned for a limited time. It took me by surprise and left me wondering why those monies were not spent on the victims they purport to support.

34 posted on 02/27/2008 4:02:01 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Heartland Mom

To trick people into financially supporting causes that they would never directly support.


35 posted on 02/27/2008 4:13:08 PM PST by informavoracious ("Help me, Obama-Wan Kenyabi, you're my only hope!")
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To: Williams

Very logical Williams...and I agree. As to the Komen Foundation giving monies to PP, I do believe in some parts of the country the only mammogram (or travelling mammography vans) are funded by variety of sources (United Way being one as well). So a travelling mammography van and staff could fall under the same umbrella organization as a PP clinic...run by some not-for-profit corp. So cutting the Komen funding is really biting the nose to spite the face. From what I have read, the lions share of monies Komen redistributes back to the communities (think the of the Race for the Cure) goes toward ‘prevention’ ie., mammograms. It would be a travesty to cut back on those funds...


36 posted on 02/27/2008 4:26:04 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Michelle Obama: this seasons Teresa Heinz.)
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To: NYer

I think the manufacturers of the products handle the publicity and the re-packing/labeling of the products. I am not an accountant, but I would guess that like other business costs those could be written off (along with the donation they make to Komen, or the American Heart Association—Go Red!).


37 posted on 02/27/2008 4:31:00 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Michelle Obama: this seasons Teresa Heinz.)
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To: Coleus

Komen Foundation Ping


38 posted on 02/27/2008 5:19:54 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: Williams

But once the money is given, how do you know what gets done once it’s in PP’s checking account?


39 posted on 02/27/2008 6:06:05 PM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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40 posted on 02/27/2008 6:07:44 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Jaded; Williams; PennsylvaniaMom; NYer; Coleus; Salvation; nickcarraway; All

Breast Cancer Foe Gives Big $$ to Top Abortion Provider

http://www.cnsnews.com/SpecialReports/archive/200502/SPE20050222a.html

A foundation that uses events such as the “Race for the Cure” to raise money to fight breast cancer is jeopardizing women’s health by using some of those funds to support local chapters of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, according to a former advisor to the foundation.

Planned Parenthood clinics provide breast cancer screening and education, but the organization is also the nation’s top abortion provider.

“You can’t affirm life with one hand and support an organization that kills people with the other,” said Eve Sanchez Silver, a medical research analyst and two-time breast cancer survivor who severed her ties with the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation after learning that its chapters supplied $475,000 in grants to local Planned Parenthood affiliates in 2003.

Silver and many others in the medical and scientific community believe that abortion makes a woman more vulnerable to developing breast cancer.

According to its website, the Komen Foundation works “through a network of U.S. and international affiliates and events like the Komen Race for the Cure ... to eradicate breast cancer as a life-threatening disease by funding research grants and supporting education, screening and treatment projects in communities around the world.”

The foundation’s most recent annual report indicates that, for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2003, Komen and its more than 100 affiliates received over $154 million through private donations, corporate contributions and a number of fund-raising events.

The most successful money-maker for the organization in that 12-month period was the Race for the Cure, the largest series of 5K runs/fitness walks in the world. The events drew more than one million participants who raised nearly $88 million from donors. The 2004 race in Washington, D.C., held in June, drew more than 52,000 runners/walkers. The Komen Foundation expects 1.4 million participants in its series of more than 100 races in 2005.

While holding administrative and fund-raising expenses to about 25 percent of its budget, the foundation spent about 75 percent of its funds in the 2003 fiscal year on mission-related activities, including grants and programs related to breast cancer research, education, screening and treatment.

That year, Komen affiliates awarded $38.4 million to support community outreach programs, including 21 grants to local Planned Parenthood chapters totaling more than $475,000.

Silver told the Cybercast News Service that she doesn’t believe the foundation should be involved with Planned Parenthood, since that organization “is in the business of abortions.

“If they stopped doing abortions tomorrow, they’d go broke the next day,” Silver said. “As far as I’m concerned, anything they do in the way of drawing women in for any kind of service would simply be to acclimate them to their organization until they’re ready to have an abortion.”

The fact that Komen is awarding grants to the nation’s top abortion provider “proves to me that the foundation’s perspective is not for the safety of women. It can’t be,” she said.

“Everywhere, women who are working to combat breast cancer are begging for money, but they give funds to Planned Parenthood instead,” Silver added. “And that organization is using it to make beautiful centers so they can lure women in to kill their babies.”


41 posted on 02/27/2008 6:08:58 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Deut28

Ping to #41.


42 posted on 02/27/2008 6:09:58 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE; Petronski

Planned Parenthood isn’t as low cost as they’d like you to believe. I was charged $150 for a gyno exam by PP but at my county hospital $20. They make a lot of money off government money from birth control pills and patches too. I wonder if Avon Foundation supports them. I tend to stay away from supporting many cancer foundations because the money doesn’t go towards alternative/complementary healing treatments. I do know Avon does support adult stem cell research for sure.


43 posted on 02/27/2008 6:30:46 PM PST by cyborg (Nursing school, another marathon and a cherry on top)
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To: Williams
I’d like more info on this. IF the money to Planned Parenthood id to fund breast exams or pamphlets about breast cancer, I would not condemn that activity, meaning the distribution of info about breast cancer.

I would. As it would make more PP money generated from other, less selective, sources available for murdering infants and destroying the lives of the murdered infants' mothers.

44 posted on 02/27/2008 6:31:52 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: STARWISE; Petronski

Wish I didn’t visit this thread. It’s actually raising new irritation at how the core issues don’t seem to be addressed. The nurse practionier that saw me was very nice but still... I kinda cringed when I saw teenagers signing up for the depo shot. FWIW, the PP I went to only performed first trimester abortions and there used to be protestors in front but they’ve disappeared (probably gone to heaven now as they were mostly elderly men go figure).


45 posted on 02/27/2008 6:36:59 PM PST by cyborg (Nursing school, another marathon and a cherry on top)
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To: Williams
IF the money to Planned Parenthood id to fund breast exams or pamphlets about breast cancer

Money is fungible. A dollar given to Planned Deadbabyhood "to fund breast exams" means they can put another dollar toward 2nd trimester abortions.

46 posted on 02/27/2008 7:17:32 PM PST by Campion
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To: marinamuffy

“How does killing babies benefit breast cancer research??”

Having an abortion increases the chances of contracting breast cancer. Keeps the market for breast cancer research going.


47 posted on 02/27/2008 7:39:37 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: STARWISE

**The reason, church leaders say, comes from the Dallas-based foundation giving money to Planned Parenthood **

Good enough reason for me!


48 posted on 02/27/2008 10:59:09 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Williams
AFAIK, their money is completely interchangeable. You have a choice between contributing to Organization A, which screens women for breast cancer and kills babies, or Organization B, which screens women for breast cancer and does NOT kill babies. Pretty obvious.

And you're exactly right: both abortion and oral contraceptives increase risks for breast cancer by disrupting the normal hormone levels. Anyone who wants the details on how that works can CLICK HERE.

49 posted on 02/28/2008 6:48:12 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Live and let live.)
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To: Deut28

That’s right! I give to Samaritan’s Purse, 700 Club and other good Christian groups who get the money where they need to go. I also give to Salvation Army and the Rescue Mission around the holidays. You can’t trust secular groups.


50 posted on 02/28/2008 7:16:15 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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