Washington NARAL Director Admits Abortion, 'Hard for Women," Won't Say Why

Life News ^ | 2/26/08 | Steven Ertelt

[wagglebee]

Olympia, WA (LifeNews.com) -- The Washington affiliate of NARAL issued the results of a new study earlier this month complaining that not all pharmacies in the state stock the morning after pill or have pharmacists willing to dispense the drug. The writers of a pro-life blog contacted the director of the group, who made some rather surprising comments about abortion.

The writers at Abortion in Washington talked with NARAL Washington director Karen Cooper.

The blog first indicated that Cooper said her group conducted the campaign to contact pharmacists to see if they were following state Board of Pharmacy rules requiring them to dispense the Plan B pills.

AIW indicated "Cooper appeared to be unaware of the fact that this rule was no longer in effect due to an injunction from U.S. District Court Judge Ronald B. Leighton."

As LifeNews.com has reported, Leighton declared the rule a violation of the conscience rights of pharmacists.

"Such ignorance seems inexplicable since NARAL Washington was involved in the appeal of the ruling," the blog author Jonathan Bloedow wrote.

He indicated the blog asked Cooper why a pro-abortion group would promote a drug to reduce abortions if it was okay with abortions being done.

"This was met with a long silence, followed by a nervous confession that, 'abortion is a very hard thing for women emotionally,'" Bloedow wrote. He said Cooper quickly added, "a very hard decision."

Bloedow said Cooper tried to end the phone call repeatedly during the interview.

"It was clear these were not questions she was keen on answering. Early in the interview she became hostile and argumentative. After responding to this last question, clearly uncomfortable, she hung up," he said.

"As a result, we were unable to discover what it is about abortion that makes it such a difficult decision for women," he concluded. "If it's just the removal of a blob of tissue, why should it be so hard?"

[wagglebee]

"As a result, we were unable to discover what it is about abortion that makes it such a difficult decision for women," he concluded. "If it's just the removal of a blob of tissue, why should it be so hard?"

Abortionists NEVER want to answer this question.

[wagglebee]

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[jdm]

Washington NARAL Director Admits Abortion, 'Hard for Women," Won't Say Why

Hell, what about the unborn child? Isn't it much harder for him/her?

[rfp1234]

"As a result, we were unable to discover what it is about abortion that makes it such a difficult decision for women," he concluded. "If it's just the removal of a blob of tissue, why should it be so hard?"

Some of those blobs have beating hearts. Ultrasound technology has caught up with the NARAL ignorance-peddlers.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Good thread posting.

Yep, ask pro-choicers two questions:

1.) Is it just a blob a flesh?

2.) Do you think that having an abortion is a difficult decision for women to make?

If they answer yes to both, ask them:

Why is it a difficult decision to make if it is just a blob of flesh?

[wagglebee]

To listen to some abortionists talk, a young woman should give more thought to changing her hairstyle than she should to murdering her baby.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Does Planned Parenthood make alot of money from abortions being performed?

[wagglebee]

Planned Barrenhood gets a lot of money from the government, though they can’t LEGALLY use it for abortion. They are non-profit and shouldn’t have a profit, but in 2006, they had “excess revenue” of almost $56 million and they have assets of almost $840 million.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jun/07060811.html

[markomalley]

"If it's just the removal of a blob of tissue, why should it be so hard?"

bears repeating...and often.

[Morgana]

“Does Planned Parenthood make alot of money from abortions being performed?”

---

Abortion doctors make money out the ass! That is why the clinics do their very best to get the woman to choose abortion. They even have cost of living figured out and show the woman just how “she can not afford” to have a baby right now. This really works on teens who have no jobs, or education. The biggest one is “how much diapers cost” (not that the woman could use cloth but you get the point) but that is one of many questions they make the women face in order to get them to abort. All the while the clinics are raking in the dollars!!

[Morgana]

BECAUSE THE TRUTH WOULD BE TOO MUCH! THE WOMAN WOULD CHOOSE THE BABY, AND THE DOCTOR WOULD BE OUT OF A JOB!!!

[Morgana]

That and abortion is a “surgery” not a “procedure”. Any time your body goes for surgery you run the risk that something can go wrong.

If you have your wisdom teeth removed, if the doctor slips, your jaw can be paralyzed. Most do not know this.

With this knowledge, did you know that abortion doctors are the “worse” doctors in their field? Even the best abortion doctor is low rate. They do abortions because they are not brain surgeons, and could never be anything better.

[markomalley]

You do realize you’re preaching to the choir here, right?

[wagglebee]

I personally have no problem with the picture in post #12 (aside from the fact that 50 MILLION AMERICAN CHILDREN have been murdered in this fashion since 1973); however, I do know that some people can get very upset seeing it (especially if they have children nearby), so maybe it should be removed. But Jim and the mods can decide what’s best.

[markomalley]

reality is reality. (But perhaps a NSFW label would now be appropriate in the title)

[wagglebee]

I just know that I wouldn’t want to explain this to a young child.

[Morgana]

“I just know that I wouldn’t want to explain this to a young child.”

Pro-lifers hold signs of this all the time on the street in front of clinics. What is the difference if I post it here? You better explain now before you go past the next pro-life stand.

[cpforlife.org]

Pro-Choice Advocates Agree that Abortion Kills Humans

Excerpts of chapter 3 from The Public Policy of Casey v. Planned Parenthood by Michael G. Smith
http://www.leaderu.com/humanities/casey/ch3.html#S4

Many abortion advocates have agreed that abortion kills human life: A 1963 Planned Parenthood brochure says that life begins at conception: “An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun.”[1] Former Planned Parenthood President Faye Wattleton admits that the preborn are alive in her 1986 book:

“There are many sperm cells in the [seminal] fluid. If one of them meets an egg cell inside the mother, new life can begin to grow... If one of your friends is pregnant, ask her to let your child ‘feel the baby move.’ ... A baby grows in a special place inside the mother, called the uterus — not in her stomach. In nine months it is born.”[2]

Similarly, Dr. Mary Calderone, former director of Planned Parenthood has stated that “[a]bortion is the taking of a human life”[3] and Dr. Alan Guttmacher,[4] former president of Planned Parenthood and founder of the Guttmacher Institute, the research affiliate of Planned Parenthood, has stated “[f]ertilization has then taken place; a baby has been conceived.” [5] [6] While many abortion defenders readily concede that abortion kills human life, it is necessary to expound on this point because examining the nature of the unborn human being at the point of conception shows the inherent dignity that we all share from our biologic beginnings that are hidden from eyes of the world.

Not only have representatives from the nations largest abortion provider agreed that life begins at conception, but others who support abortion have agreed that abortion is murder. Dr. Magda Denes who performed two years of research in an abortion facility and compiled her results [7] told a Chicago newspaper “There wasn’t an (abortion) doctor who at one time or another in the questioning did not say ‘this is murder.’” [8] Even Kate Michelman, President of N.AR.A.L. seems to be moving in the direction of agreeing that abortion is murder by her statement that “[a]bortion is a bad thing.” [9] Others who have at one time been heavily involved with abortion have later agreed, such as “Jane Roe” Norma McCorvey, Dr. Bernard Nathanson, and Carol Everett.

In addition, everyone who uses the term “fetus” unwittingly acknowledges that the unborn human is an unborn child because fetus is Latin for “unborn child.” Unfortunately for the unborn child, the term fetus has fallen into use as a way of dehumanizing the unborn child, as shown by the primary use of this term by people when they are arguing for abortion rights, in comparison to when they are discussing a baby that is wanted by the mother.

[1] Pamphlet: Plan Your Children (Planned Parenthood, 1963).
[2] Faye Wattleton, How to Talk with Your Child About Sexuality 95 (1986).
[3] Dr. Mary Calderone, Illegal Abortion as a Public Health Problem, 50 American Journal of Public
Health 7, 951 (1960)
[4] Katherine S. O’Keefe, Crypto-Eugenics: The Hidden Agenda of Planned Parenthood Appendix B
(1991)
[5] Birth Control and Love: The Complete Guide to Contraception and Fertility 12 (1961) quoted in
Stephen M. Krason, Abortion: Politics, Morality, and the Constitution: A Critical Study of Roe v. Wade
and Doe v. Bolton and a Basis for Change 445 (1984)
[6] Planning Your Family 16 (1964)
[7] In Necessity and Sorrow: Life and Death in an Abortion Hospital (1976)
[8] Daily News, Oct. 22, 1976
[9] Philadelphia Enquirer, Dec. 11, 1993

[the invisib1e hand]

because not every place is the right place for a gruesome graphic.

in this context, it's gratuitous. We all know how despicable abortion is. It was a picture similar to that turned me around so long ago. But I cannot, and need not, see such a thing today. And I stand by my pro-life credentials, and might even be able to vouch for Wagglebee's, if his dedication to these threads is any indication.

[Morgana]

“It was a picture similar to that turned me around so long ago”

why do you think they are shown over and over by the pro-life movement?

To reach those who have not seen them.

[freeangel]

“abortion is a very hard thing for women...”

I don’t know about that. There are enough of them that seem to have “serial” abortions.

[j_tull]

it's gratuitous BullSh!T!!

It was an image strong enough to turn you around but now you don't want to see it? Get out of the way! Your weak stomach and weaker will is obstructing the cause.

[j_tull]

are obstructing I meant. Poor English really weakens the agrument, sorry.

[ChurtleDawg]

in all fairness, this was a bit much. I am already against abortion and I did not need to see that picture shortly before I retired for bed. If you are going to post graphic pictures, please at least warn those of us who choose not to be upset

[Lesforlife]

[Mr. Ion]

Actually, no. Many women who abort babies could see the very picture that you posted and still abort the baby. Abortion is an incalculable depth of evil, a mad feminist power trip, not a lack of knowledge alone.

[8mmMauser]

Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm

[8mmMauser]

Great graphic!!

;-)

[the invisib1e hand]

It was an image strong enough to turn you around but now you don't want to see it? Get out of the way! Your weak stomach and weaker will is obstructing the cause.

Use it where appropriate. People like you are the reason nobody listens to the truth about life.

Take your meds.

[the invisib1e hand]

How many hours have you logged doing sidewalk counselling? How many turnarounds have you influenced?

I won't hold my breath for the answer.

What do you do for "the cause" besides insult people you don't know from the safety of your ketchup-encrusted keyboard?

[wagglebee]

Pro-lifers hold signs of this all the time on the street in front of clinics. What is the difference if I post it here? You better explain now before you go past the next pro-life stand.

I agree and I have no difficulties explaining these images, it's just unpleasant to let young children know what a cruel world they live in. And I do know that we have had complaints about these images in the past.

[Turret Gunner A20]

<...because not every place is the right place for a gruesome graphic.

What is the right place to put such a picture? In the back of a dark closet, Under the carpet, in the trunk of your car. Or, are you against getting out the message of how grusome murder is -- particularly the murder of the most innocednt among us?

[MockTurtle]

Does Planned Parenthood make alot of money from abortions being performed?

Planned Parenthood’s clinic income was over $345 million in 2006 – over a third is from abortions. Planned Parenthood is the number one abortion provider in the United States, responsible for over 250,000 abortions annually. (It's all in their Planned Parenthood's Annual Report online)

[j_tull]

So insulting people of whom you know nothing is reserved for you alone? I was unaware of your sidewalk counseling, I thank you, and I am certain God blesses you for that. While I don’t work the street, rest assured I am not masturbating looking at the photo in question, as you seem to imagine. One of the reasons we’re losing ground is that people on the same side of the issue seem to have the need for conversations such as this. Good Luck, God Bless.

[the invisib1e hand]

here's the deal. being for life isn't a "cause," for starters. It's reality.

Next, the image of battered human being, especially an innocent one, isn't to be trifled with.

If you think it's nothing, then you for you life is a 'cause,' and not a reality. you'll jump from one cause to the next because your soul can't be touched by that image: the only value you see in it is the violence it can do to your "opponent's" souls.

And if none of that makes sense to you, you don't get "life." Don't kid yourself.

[the invisib1e hand]

so what have your convictions motivated you to do, besides congratulate yourself on how righteous you are?

I dare you to spend a half a day -- even 15 uninterrupted minutes -- with that image. Look at it. Picture it as a child you know or knew. Make it real. It is a person after all. Talk to him/her. Wonder what he might have been like at little league; picture her running up to you yelling "DADDY!!!!"

Then go toss it around like it's a f#cking billy-club you can bludgeon "the other side" with. A tool. A thing. That picture represents someone. Show that one some dignity.

[j_tull]

OK nitwit, you asked for it, I’ll shout since you seem to be both dim and deaf. OF COURSE IT WAS SOMEONE!!! A SOUL NOW IN GOD’S OWN HANDS!!! LIKE PAINTINGS OF JESUS ON THE CROSS ONLY REAL!! A REMINDER OF THE ATROCITY OF ABORTION AND AN IMAGE A YOUNG WOMAN MAY SEE AND CHANGE HER MIND. Don’t bother replying, you have confirmed the impression that lead to my first post, you are in the way.

[Turret Gunner A20]

here's the deal. being for life isn't a "cause," for starters. It's reality.

What is a "starter"?

Next, the image of battered human being, especially an innocent one, isn't to be trifled with. >/i>

HOW have I "trifle(d) with that picture? If you got that impression from anything I have said -- ajthing at all __ then, you are too dumb to waste time TRYING to have a discussion with.

If you think it's nothing, then you for you life is a 'cause,' and not a reality. you'll jump from one cause to the next because your soul can't be touched by that image: the only value you see in it is the violence it can do to your "opponent's" souls.

You just proved what I said in the foregoindg paragraph -- you are a nasty, vicious, brainless idiot. And if none of that makes sense to you, you don't get "life." Don't kid yourself.

You are the one kidding yourself. And acting like a petulant jackass to boot. Who the hell ;peed in your Wheaties that got you so riled up over a mere male's support for NOT MURDERING BABIES.

Or maybe I misunerstood you, and you think that the murdering of the baby is the unimportant part of the abortion abomination -- and the hurt feelings of the murdedess are the all-important thing.