Posted on 02/24/2008 10:37:58 AM PST by WyCoKsRepublican
Senator John McRINO aka John McCain is seeking the conservative base to unite with him. Many of us haven't forgotten that he never united with us. Whether it be on his kneepads courting Ted Kennedy or spearheading the ramming of amnesty down our throats, we haven't forgotten. This election offers little or no choice. In the words of Billy Preston "Nothing from Nothing Leaves Nothing."
The “Democratic” alternative is socialism, that’s why.
LOL Tell us what you think!
So is the McCain alternative.
is this breaking news!!!!!!?
there is a place for this, ya know
Constitution Party.
"I hope at some point we can just calm down a little bit and see>>> if <<< there are areas we can agree on for the good of the party and the good of the country," McCain said. "I think they've made their case against me pretty eloquently."
Golly Juan, ya think?
McCain/Kennedy
McCain/Feingold
McCain/Lieberman
No on Bush Tax cuts
Consideration of VP for John Kerry
Keating 5
Global Warming
NY Times endorsement
LA Times Endorsement
Opposed federal gay marriage (before realizing the consequences)
Pro choice(before realizing the consequences)
McCains the candidate of amnesty for illegal aliens.
McCain supports embryonic stem-cell research.
McCain has said I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade.
McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, and refuses to sign the No New Taxes pledge.
McCain supports legislation that would increase taxes on energy.
McCain was the ring-leader of the Senate Gang of 14, which kept the then Senate Republican leadership from ending the ability of Democrats to filibuster Bushs judicial nominees.
McCain supports legislation to grant due-process rights to terrorists.
McCain sponsored the inept legislation which restricts free-speech rights of those involved in the political process, (the McCain/Feingold bill)
McCain called evangelical-conservatives an evil influence on the Republican Party.
McCain - member of the Keating 5 that caused a bipartisan scandal during the S&L meltdown.
McCain had a recall election ran against him by the conservatives in Arizona.
McCain blocked the investigation into whether Viet Nam and the Soviets were still holding over 600 of our missing POWs in 1990.
(Credit to the two FReepers that put this together, I don't recall which but they know who they are and they don't drink the kool-aid.)


A detailed history of his voting JUST on amnesty
2007: Voted on Senate floor in favor of motion to invoke cloture on S. 1639, a bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty Sen. McCain voted in favor of a second motion to invoke cloture on S. 1639 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Edward Kennedy), a bill to reward up to 6 million illegal aliens with amnesty. The motion to invoke cloture would have limited further debate on the bill and moved it to a final vote. A vote for cloture was effectively a vote in favor of passing the amnesty-guestworker bill. The motion to invoke cloture failed by a vote of 46 to 53.
2007: Voted on Senate floor in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens Sen. McCain voted in favor of a motion to invoke cloture on S. 1639 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Edward Kennedy), a bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty. The motion to invoke cloture was a move to initiate debate on the proposal and limit further discussion of amendments to a previously-agreed upon set of proposals -- thus a vote against cloture was effectively a vote in favor of killing the amnesty-guestworker bill. The motion to invoke cloture passed by a vote of 64 to 35.
2007: Voted on Senate floor against reducing amnesties for illegal aliens Sen. McCain voted in favor of a motion to invoke cloture on the substitute amendment (SA 1150) to S. 1348, a bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty. The motion to invoke cloture would have ended debate on the proposal and limited further discussion of amendments to a previously-agreed upon set of proposals -- thus a vote in favor of cloture was effectively a vote in favor of the amnesty-guestworker bill. The motion to invoke cloture failed by a vote of 45 to 50.
2007: Voted on Senate floor in favor of amendment to create a disincentive to apply for amnesty Sen. McCain voted in favor of the Cornyn Amendment (SA 1250) to S. 1348 to discourage applicants from applying for amnesty by eliminating the provisions protecting the confidentiality of the information contained in amnesty applications and, instead, requires the sharing of application-related information upon the request of a law enforcement agency, intelligence, or national security agency, or DHS component when requested in connection with a duly-authorized investigation of a civil violation. The Cornyn Amendment passed by a vote of 57 to 39.
2007: Voted on Senate floor against amendment to bar certain criminals from amnesty Sen. McCain voted against the Cornyn Amendment (SA 1184) to S. 1385 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Harry Reid) to bar criminal aliens from receiving amnesty. Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff has estimated that 15% of illegal aliens are criminals. The Cornyn Amendment failed by a vote of 46 to 51.
2007: Voted against amendment to strip amnesty provisions from S. 1348 in 2007 Sen. McCain voted against the Vitter Amendment to strip the amnesty provisions from S. 1348 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Harry Reid). The Vitter Amendment failed by a vote of 29 to 66.
2007: Cosponsoring S. 774 to reward illegal aliens with amnesty S. 774 (whose main sponsor is Sen. Dick Durbin) would reward illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above with amnesty. An estimated 500,000 to 600,000 illegal aliens would qualify for this amnesty.
2007: Cosponsoring S. 340 to grant amnesty to illegal aliens (AgJOBS) Sen. McCain is a cosponsor of S. 340 (whose main sponsor is Sen. Dianne Feinstein) to encourage more illegal immigration by rewarding certain illegal aliens who work in agriculture with amnesty.
2006: Voted on Senate floor in favor of S. 2611 to reward illegal aliens with amnesty Sen. McCain voted in favor of final passage of S. 2611 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Arlen Specter) which includes an amnesty (both immediate and deferred) for 10.2 million illegal aliens (6.7 million illegal alien workers and 3.5 million illegal alien spouses and/children). S. 2611 passed by a vote of 62 to 36.
2006: Voted in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens Sen. McCain voted in favor of a motion to invoke cloture on S. 2611 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Arlen Specter) which includes an amnesty (both immediate and deferred) for 10.2 million illegal aliens (6.7 million illegal alien workers and 3.5 million illegal alien spouses and/children). The motion to invoke cloture passed by a vote of 73 to 25.
2006: Voted against amendment to reward 2 million illegal aliens with amnesty Sen. McCain voted against the Feinstein Amendment to S. 2611 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Arlen Specter) to create an "orange card" that would allow an estimated two million illegal aliens to pay a fine, and after 6-8 years, adjust to Lawful Permanent Resident status. The Feinstein Amendment failed by a vote of 37 to 61 .
2006: Voted against amendment to kill amnesty provisions Sen. McCain voted against the Vitter amendment (SA 3963) to S. 2611 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Arlen Specter) to remove provisions authorizing the earned legalization and agricultural worker amnesty schemes that would grant amnesty to an estimated 16 million illegal aliens and their families (according to a May, 2006 study by the Heritage Foundations Robert Rector). The Vitter amendment failed by a vote of 33 to 66.
2006: Voted against procedural move to reward illegal aliens with amnesty Sen. McCain voted against cloture on SA 3424, a "compromise amnesty" proposal by Sens. Hagel (R-NE) and Martinez (R-FL). The purpose of voting against allowing a final vote on this proposal varied from Senator to Senator, with many of them favoring the proposal but not willing to bring it up without a lot of votes on amendments. At the least, those voting against cloture were insisting on a chance for opponents of the bill to make their case with amendments. The Hagel-Martinez proposal would reward illegal aliens with amnesty. S. 2611 includes an amnesty (both immediate and deferred) for 10.2 million illegal aliens (6.7 million illegal alien workers and 3.5 million illegal alien spouses and/children). The cloture motion failed by a vote of 38 to 60.
2005-2006: Cosponsored S. 2075 to reward illegal aliens with amnesty S. 2075 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Dick Durbin) would reward illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above with amnesty. An estimated 500,000 to 600,000 illegal aliens would qualify for this amnesty. The bill died in the Judiciary Committee.
2005-2006: Cosponsored S. 1033 to reward illegal aliens with amnesty Sen. McCain was a cosponsor of S. 1033 to reward virtually all illegal aliens (except those with criminal records or terrorist connections) with amnesty. This could potentially reward 9 million illegal aliens with amnesty. This bill died in the Judiciary Committee.
2005: Voted in favor of amnesty for agricultural workers Sen. McCain voted to invoke cloture, a procedural move requiring 60 votes to limit debate and ensure a vote on the AgJOBS amnesty amendment for up to 3 million illegal aliens, introduced by Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID), to the Iraq supplemental spending bill. The Senate voted 53 to 45 not to invoke cloture, effectively keeping the amnesty off of the final bill.
2005-2006: Cosponsored S. 359 to grant amnesty to illegal aliens Sen. McCain was a cosponsor of S. 359 to encourage more illegal immigration by rewarding certain illegal aliens who work in agriculture with amnesty.
2003-2004: Cosponsored S. 1645 to grant amnesty to illegal aliens Sen. McCain cosponsored S. 1645 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Larry Craig) to encourage more illegal immigration by rewarding certain illegal aliens who work in agriculture with amnesty. This bill died in the Judiciary Committee.
2003-2004: Cosponsored S. 1545 to reward illegal aliens with amnesty S. 1545 would have rewarded illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above with amnesty. An estimated 500,000 to 600,000 illegal aliens would have qualified for this amnesty.
2003-2004: Cosponsored S. 1461 to encourage reward illegal aliens with amnesty Sen. McCain cosponsored S. 1461, to create a legalization process for almost all illegal aliens who will then be eligible for green cards after 6 years. Amnesty has been shown to increase rates of illegal immigration. The bill did not come to a vote.
2000: Voted against an illegal immigration amnesty. Sen. McCain voted against including an amnesty for illegal aliens from Central America in the Senate H-1B bill (S.2045). This not necessarily a vote against the amnesty, but rather a vote against including it in the H-1B legislation. The move to attach the amnesty failed 43-55.
1997: Voted for an amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba. Sen. McCain voted for a procedural move that helped allow the Mack Amendment to be included in S.1156 (the District of Columbia Appropriations bill). This amendment granted amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba and is expected to add close to one million people to U.S. population. 96 N/A N/A
1990: Voted for a bill that included an amnesty. Sen. McCain supported S.358 (whose main sponsor was Sen. Edward Kennedy), which provided an amnesty for up to 165,000 spouses and minor children of illegal aliens who were granted amnesty in 1986. Ultimately, the 1990 bill passed 81-17.
So. There it is.
Juan MxCain.
Between Juan, Billary and Obama (because that is all the MSM will allow) we as a nation are finished. Better get ready for it.
I do not mean plastic and duct tape either.
When those 35 million new amnesty welfare and socialist voters hit the booths in 2010 we are going to get b-slapped. And when they vote in 2012, we are history as a nation.
The reality is Obama probably won’t be able to do most of the stuff he says and he knows it. It will be a bad 4 years and then it will be over. Let’s hope the gun control part won’t be too bad and can be undone like Brady and the taxrates can come back down easily. Rather than hold my nose and vote, I will hold my nose and vote for someone better in 4 years.
Send McCain a message. Vote for Mike Huckabee in the remaining primaries.
Let him know we are supporting the more conservative candidate in the two-man race.
Does anyone think McCain will reach out to conservatives, even a little, if he wins the nomination easily?
Hell of a time to become a Whino man. Maybe you should think about this country? Conservatives aren’t the majority. We barely got Bush in and he’s only a compassionate conservative. We can only win on 2 or 3 things each cycle. I say we win on Iraq and the WOT and maybe supreme court or abortion. It’s better than losing on everything.
Why not. There are countless articles posted everyday lately about why we should forget about our voting rights and just vote McCain.
Name for me the cabinet that Osbama will appoint and then name the judges he will appoint..then do the same for McCaine.
We stand a better chance of controling McCaine than Osbama.
I don’t like his record, but I stand more of a chance to influence McCaine and protect our country than with Osbama.
Tough choice, but necessary.
This is why.
Nothin’ like a vanity on a Sunday afternoon. :)
I’ll tell you why we need to unite behind McInsane. Because either one of the two alternatives are so damn scary, it isn’t funny.
Maybe McCain can hold the line on government spending. He says he can. Let’s see. You can be damn sure if Hitlery or Hussein get elected, government spending will be out of control.
Not to mention their desire to raise the white flag in the War on Terror.
Zzzzzzzzzz..........
“The Democratic alternative is socialism
So is the McCain alternative.”
I have only four words in response to that...Breyer, Ginsburg, Iran, and Red China. (not to mention Medicare, the Department of Education)
All of the above were brought to you by Democratic Presidents. People act as if we are paying McCain back for crossing us. The problem with teis logic is that, to get to McCain, you must first run the sword through....yourself.
I can’t understand how anyone can go back through teh political history of the last 50-60 years and and truly say to himself that there is no difference.
Read the tagline...
“I cant understand how anyone can go back through teh {sic}political history of the last 50-60 years and and truly say to himself that there is no difference.”
Not this time!
I’ll settle for going through McCain’s political history for the past 8 years. That is enough that I’ll not support him.
Thanks for the rationalization.
The damage will be fast, severe and long lasting.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
OK, fine... you found a couple issues where he broke with the GOP. How about the hundreds of bills and issues that he showed that he is indeed a conservative Republican?
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_McCain.htm
There is nothing socialist about McCain’s economic plan. Please elaborate.
Some say that an obama presidency would be better just cuz the repubs in Congress would oppose obama, and that the repubs in Congress will not oppose MCcain.
So their thinking is that less bad will happen w/ a dem prez as repubs oppose leftward movement of a dem prez.
I’m not saying I agree - I’m just saying....
We held our noses in 1996 and again in 2000 (lots of FReepers including the Head FReeper adamantly opposed Bush). What did that get us? Government has still grown out of control. McCain wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years. The real issuses (devaluing dollar for example) still aren't being addressed.
So quit whining about who is 'reaching out' to whom and vote for McCain--if you're even old enough.
“Why unite with McCain? He never united with us”
Oh...
I don’t know....
Perhaps you could think of that while wondering why President Obama took so much of your paycheck, if you still have one??
Perhaps you could think of that while waiting in line for hours at your local Med Center, wistfully remembering what healthcare USED to be like in America, before it was “Socialized”?
“Ill settle for going through McCains political history for the past 8 years.”
That is your choice. I respect it. But know that you will also be settling for a giant tax hike, three youthful Bader Ginsburgs on the Supreme Court, a nuclear Iran and Al Qaeda, and Hugo Chavez trying to destabilize every friendly regime in central and South America.
If my lawyer recommended that settlement to me, I’d fire him.
I’d still rather have four years of McCain in the White House than even one day of Obama or Hillary. I will hold my nose and vote for McCain in November. Then work to make improvements in 2012.
Our country would never recover from the damage that Obama or Hillary would cause! Read through this article at the link below and just think about it!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1812880/posts
I really don’t think people here truly know the meaning of the word socialism. I hope and I pray that we don’t get a real lesson from Hilabama.
The difference is between paper and reality. McCain may well have a conservative economic plan on paper. But if he passes amnesty, he may as well just wad it up and throw it out the window. Amnesty will give citizenship to millions of illegals who will then use chain migration to import their relatives, and this will be followed by millions of additional illegals flooding in to take advantage of the next amnesty. Try implementing a conservative economic agenda while simultaneously flooding the country with millions and millions of people with third grade educations and a craving for freebies.
The following article were posted in the last 4 hours in News/Activism ... and my reasons!!! National Security!!!! duh
1. North Korea praises Cuba’s Castro
2. U.S. can attack Russia in 2012-2015 - Russian military analyst
3. Iran fails to answer weapons questions: IAEA
4. Obama Changed My Mind About McCain
5. Column One: Kosovo’s stark warning
6. China arms buildup ‘alarming’
7. Iranian Nuke within Months
and then......
8. Study: 3 in 4 U.S. mosques preach anti-Western jihadist hate

The "New American Pioneers" proclaimed in his book are the illegal alien invaders he urges to become settlers in the USA. Hernandez believes all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the USA should become dual citizens and consider themselves Mexicans first, "to the 8th generation." He believes there should be no border at all between Mexico and the USA, ever.
And this is the man McCain chose for his "Hispanic Outreach Director." In the past week McCain was asked about this choice, and he said he chose Hernandez because he agrees with his positions. If so, McCain is supporting invasion and reconquista.
Then I read our Constitution, Article 4 Section 4, where it says the federal government MUST protect the states from invasion, and I can only conclude one thing: John McCain is our new Benedict Arnold.
"In his own words: McCains radical Hispanic outreach director Juan Hernandez on youtube"
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/27/in-his-own-words-mccains-hispanic-outreach-director-preaches-open-borders/
Reminds me of a poem the Polish resistance in Warsaw wrote durning the revolt.
“help up please, Red pest, and save us from the black Death”
Damned no matter who gets there first.....
The Military.
McCain’s economic plan is Kemp-Roth-Laffer, like Reagan’s.
“We held our noses in 1996 and again in 2000 (lots of FReepers including the Head FReeper adamantly opposed Bush). What did that get us? “
“Fool me once Shame on you Fool me twice Shame on me.”
Do you really think McCain will stop our head-first slide into socialism? No, but we'll take the scenic route rather than the expressway under Obama or Hillary. Either way, we'll still have socialism.
This nation has serious, structural damages that need to be addressed. The erosion of our dollar (NYC is accepting Euros now) entitlement programs reaching critical point, big fat government. McCain is just another satist, another Dole who's going to lose anyway to Obama because he doesn't inspire conservatives to go out and support him.
“I really dont think people here truly know the meaning of the word socialism.”
That is probably true. I think most people will realize how high the stakes are this time once the record has been exposed. I am actually very optimistic that Obama will lose. He is at his high water mark now and he trails McCain in Florida and Ohio and I saw another poll that showed him a point behind in Pennsylvania. That said, I do not wish to take anything for granted.
What WOT??? The one like the WOD we are not interesting in ever winning??? We've been at war with a 3rd world country for years and there is no end in sight...
The last time we won a war was against Granada...
“Why not. ...”
Because there is a place for them!!!! I’m not suggesting not printing them but put them where they belong!!!!
Yep you are the epitomy of Hope... You Hope that in 4 years Conservatism still exists. I fear it will be relagated to the history of the KKK.
I don’t plan on voting him. Too late to be upset. McCain, Hillary, Obama. I am tired of a 3 of them already.
They all stink. I will take an alernative route this time.
These 3 clowns aren’t even in my book.
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