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Coming-Of- Age Novel Causes Uproar in California School
FOXNews.com ^ | Thursday, February 21, 2008 | Jonathan Hunt

Posted on 02/21/2008 6:05:37 PM PST by metmom

YORBA LINDA, Calif. — When Patricia Cosby's 12-year-old daughter brought home the novel "Prep" from school, she was horrified to find out what her daughter was reading.

"It was really like reading something that was pornographic," Cosby said.

Her daughter found the book -- which is part of an accelerated reading program -- in the Heritage Oak School library in Yorba Linda, Calif.

"When the book first came home I couldn't sleep the first night," Patricia Cosby said. "I just kept waking up and I just had this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: education; homosexualagenda; library; moralabsolutes; porn; publiceducation; publicschools; pushingperversion; schools
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1 posted on 02/21/2008 6:05:38 PM PST by metmom
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To: wagglebee

ping


2 posted on 02/21/2008 6:06:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I was going to bring this to your attention, but you’re the one who found it.


3 posted on 02/21/2008 6:06:59 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.
4 posted on 02/21/2008 6:07:05 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

It’s pretty bad that stuff like this is out there.

The hypocrisy of the left is so unbelievable. On one hand, they’re encouraging kids in promiscuity through stuff like this, on the other they’re trying to prevent teen pregnancy and sexual abuse by reporting any kind of *inappropriate* behavior.

They’re encouraging the very behavior they condemn when the kids act on it.


5 posted on 02/21/2008 6:10:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Renaissance - Fruit Loops?


6 posted on 02/21/2008 6:10:57 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: metmom
Renaissance said it will neither remove "Prep" from its recommended reading list nor change the age group for which it is deemed appropriate.

Wow.

7 posted on 02/21/2008 6:16:02 PM PST by aberaussie
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To: metmom
They encourage this behavior because they get off on it.....its like the left are all closet pedophiles.
8 posted on 02/21/2008 6:16:03 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: metmom

If I plant my feet under the State’s table, I have forfeited my right to complain about the menu. What it feeds me, I must swallow! He who would sup with the devil must needs use a long spoon. Best choice, of course, is home cooking.


9 posted on 02/21/2008 6:17:20 PM PST by RJR_fan (Lovers and winners shape the future. Losers and whiners TRY TO PREDICT it.)
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To: metmom; Lijahsbubbe

How progressive. The educrats who approve this stuff have the same MO as other predators/subversives (e.g. Chicoms, Islamics, politicians). Probe the defenses, test the response, take advantage of any weakness, prepare the plausible deniability excuse if caught. Works well in tandem with projection. Three steps forward, one back. Repeat and proceed predictably forward.


10 posted on 02/21/2008 6:21:14 PM PST by Ezekiel
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To: svcw

You are right, most (if not all) liberals are pedophiles, sexual perverts, or homosexuals. That is why our children Must be Protected from their influence.


11 posted on 02/21/2008 6:24:33 PM PST by FFranco
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To: RJR_fan

It’s our taxes.


12 posted on 02/21/2008 6:28:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: metmom

With school programs like this, why are we so shocked when teachers have sex with their students?


13 posted on 02/21/2008 6:29:11 PM PST by kitkat
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To: metmom

Parents who love their children need to pull them out of the government schools TODAY.


14 posted on 02/21/2008 6:33:11 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: metmom

Get your kids out of public school.

Why anyone would let these pinheads anywhere near their kids is beyond me. If you care about your kids’ education, you have to take control of it. You can’t leave it to the so-called professionals; their agenda is not yours.


15 posted on 02/21/2008 6:35:19 PM PST by marron
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To: metmom

Why didn’t the mother forbid her child to read the book? There are many books on reading lists... tell the child to pick another book.
Having this type material on a reading list for 12 year olds is ridiculous, but the parent still has the last say over what the child is allowed to read.


16 posted on 02/21/2008 6:44:18 PM PST by antceecee (where do we go from here Ollie?.)
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To: antceecee

Parents have been brainwashed into being powerless.

Somehow they have the mentality the schools can tell them what to do in raising their own kids.

If the parents object, they’re told they’re wrong and people believe the *educated elite*.


17 posted on 02/21/2008 6:54:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Poor Richard Nixon must be turning in his grave!


18 posted on 02/21/2008 6:59:30 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: metmom; All
With respect to California taxpayers unwillingly having to pay for this program, Jefferson had some appropriate words.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson: Bill for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers 2:545 http://www.religioustolerance.org/virg_bil.htm
But what is even more disturbing with this situation is the usurping of parental authority by the public schools. In fact, this situation arguably reflects Mark 7:1-23, particularly verses 9-13, which shows that Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees for nullifying the 5th Commandment, to honor your parents.
19 posted on 02/21/2008 7:01:41 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: metmom; GambrillsGuy; 50mm; Elvina; ConservativeTrucker; SavannahJake; PaulZe; AKA Elena; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Evil, pure evil!

20 posted on 02/21/2008 7:03:04 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: metmom
The company says "Prep" is appropriate for ninth graders

We never got the benefit of this fine book. Our ninth grade reading list was limited to lesser classics like "Huckleberry Finn", "The Jungle" and "Red Badge of Courage."

21 posted on 02/21/2008 7:09:25 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: aberaussie

This is a misinterpretation of the reading list.

The website produces online tests for kids to take on a book.

The reading level is based on how difficult the words are to read and how many words are in a book.

Unfortunately, cuss words and words about sex are pretty easy to read, so that is why the reading level is what it is.

It’s simple, inappropriate material.


22 posted on 02/21/2008 7:19:34 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Poison Pill

I don’t recall exactly what we read in what grade, but I do remember some of those books.

Along with other books that are currently on the *banned books* list, like *To Kill a Mockingbird*. Goodness knows, we can’t have them reading a book that uses the common vernacular of that day- that N-word. That might corrupt their innocent little minds.

But porn is OK. Yeah.


23 posted on 02/21/2008 7:19:56 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
And here I am dragging my students through The Witch of Blackbird Pond. They drag their feet and whine till we get to the part where Kit's at a hearing to decide whether she should go on trial for witchcraft. Then you could hear a pin drop, and all the pages turning in unison.
24 posted on 02/21/2008 7:29:33 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Amendment10

Interesting to apply the Bible to this situation. Recently the Holy Father also emphasized that parents have a right to educate their children and a State cannot usurp that right.


25 posted on 02/21/2008 7:29:59 PM PST by baa39 (Help Sgt. Evan Vela! DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I haven’t read that in years.


26 posted on 02/21/2008 7:36:22 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Simple solution. Remove Renaissance. They don’t want
to change their books, or the age recommendation. Good.
Goodbye.


27 posted on 02/21/2008 7:41:14 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: metmom
The hypocrisy of the left is so unbelievable.

Not to mention they want humans to 'follow their nature' with sex, but not with eating meat. Typical.

28 posted on 02/21/2008 7:46:25 PM PST by Lost Dutchman ("Weep for the future Na'Toth, Weep for us all." (G'Kar-Babylon 5))
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To: svcw

No, its the cult of Margaret Mead. They are still clinging to the idea that the Polynesian natives are the most peaceful people in the world because they are all getting it on from the time they hit puberty until they die.

Funny thing is, Mead’s work is one of the most heavily discredited cultural anthropology “studies” out there. It was all BS. From a historical standpoint, the Polynesians fought tribal wars that would put most cultures to shame, and they are not a particularly promiscuous people - monagamy, with the typical marriage beginning in the late teen years.

But, it fits the lib agenda of a utopia where everyone sings a few verses of Kumbaya, drinks their banana - brocoli shake and screws anything that moves. I was astonished when reading a Carl SSagan book a few years ago, and he was citing the long discedited work of Mead in arguing that society needs to actually encourage sexual activity among the young. Sloppy science and borderline perversity.


29 posted on 02/21/2008 7:51:00 PM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Lancey Howard

Parents who love their children need to pull them out of the government schools TODAY.
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Uh oh! Some government school defender is sure to feel **personally** insulted.


30 posted on 02/21/2008 7:51:40 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: metmom

I read the book. What was interesting was that the author (who went to boarding school herself) presented boarding school experience as a formulaic rich kids have it better there than the kids on scholarship scenario. It was very difficult to actually “like” the main character who seemed to be based on the author. I understand the author’s school and boarding schools have had quite the problem trying to deal with this piece of fiction, and are not happy with it at all.


31 posted on 02/21/2008 7:53:08 PM PST by paltz
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To: metmom
As is to be expected, most of the homosexual agenda is about gaining access to other people's children.
32 posted on 02/21/2008 7:53:54 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: antceecee
Having this type material on a reading list for 12 year olds is ridiculous, but the parent still has the last say over what the child is allowed to read.
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Being a good parent of a child institutionalized in a government schools is a LOT more work that homeschooling.

Yes, of course you are correct. The parent still has the last word, but,,,in terms of time, it takes a lot more time for a parent of a government schooled child to read everything that comes home, to request syllabuses, read and critique textbooks, and deprogram.

The book “Prep” is likely only one of many, many examples of trash that the parent must be on the look out.

33 posted on 02/21/2008 7:56:29 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: metmom

The thing that is more disturbing than our public school systems, is the lack of public (parental) outrage about them.

We get the government we deserve because we allow the educations that have created it...


34 posted on 02/21/2008 8:03:19 PM PST by egginanest ( "Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you." -Winston Churchill-)
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To: egginanest

“The thing that is more disturbing than our public school systems, is the lack of public (parental) outrage about them.”

It reminds me of frogs in slowly boiling water. It seems to many would rather let their kids boil, instead of jumping out of the sewer that is the government forced indoctrination centers.


35 posted on 02/21/2008 8:20:31 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Getready

I am very outraged about the book being at a school library, but it isn’t Renaissance that’s the problem this time.

The problem is that a 12 year old was allowed to check out this book at a school library.

Renaissance Learning is just a company that provides quizzes for all sorts of books, even college level books.

The grade level is based on how hard it is to read, not on an appropriateness level.

It is a reading level. Unfortunately, cuss words and sexual content is easy to read. That’s why this book is a 6th grade reading level.

Now, the fact that a child checked the book out of a school library bugs me.

If the school used this book as part of a curriculum, it would bug me.

However, the fact that it is a 6th grade reading level according to Renaissance Learning doesn’t bug me.


36 posted on 02/21/2008 8:23:31 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: metmom

When I was in ninth grade we read “ragtime” which had a scene where a little boy was masturbating in a closet while spying on two lesbians making out (IIRC). We all turned out ok, but I can still tell you what page the good part was on :-)


37 posted on 02/21/2008 8:25:41 PM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: egginanest

We are currently looking at public/private high schools for my 8th grader.

He is into drama, so I thought it would be a good idea to go to our local high school’s drama production.

I read an advertisement for it in the local paper, and it said it was One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, but it was tamed down to a PG-13 level.

I never saw the movie or read the book, so I just knew it was about a mental institution.

Well, in the first 15 minutes they said every cuss word except the F-word, and they had all sorts of sexual themes.

My son and I left at intermission, and my husband said I should have left earlier.

I then e-mailed the principal and the drama teacher about the play, and I told them both that my son and I were uncomfortable with the material.

I then asked if there was a way for my son to have different curriculum if I objected to something taught in class. The drama teacher did say that there was a touring group that did plays for elementary school children that was typically G-rated plays. However, I also asked the principal about literature and the principal said the curriculum was set by the school district.

I went to the school district website and looked at their reading lists for high school students (Malcolm X, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, Always Running). There’s also a bunch of feminist type books. They do have some classics, but they throw in things that I don’t want my kids reading. I’m in California, so everything is very liberal out here.

My son has an interview at a private Christian school next week. If he gets in, then we have to decide if we want to spend 13K a year. It’s a lot of money, but I think we’ll end up sending him there.


38 posted on 02/21/2008 8:40:14 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: krb

I’ll take your word for it.

However, you illustrate an important point. That sort of stuff gets burned into the memory in a way nothing else can. It’s with you forever. No one needs that kind of filth bumping around their brain. There’s plenty of stuff out there to fill one’s mind with that has a lot more redeeming value.

The author is just trying to get a cheap thrill, knowing impressionable kids are going to read this kind of stuff, and they have to know that they will be undermining parental authority, and contributing to the corruption of today’s youth.

There’s so little value in something like that that those can be the only reasons.


39 posted on 02/21/2008 8:45:23 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: luckystarmom

I’d just move...... :)


40 posted on 02/21/2008 8:52:58 PM PST by egginanest ( "Never interrupt me when I'm trying to interrupt you." -Winston Churchill-)
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To: egginanest

Not an option at this point, but my husband does make enough to cover the cost of the school. He wouldn’t make as much in other parts of the country, so this is just part of the cost of living here.

I also figure most public schools are fairly bad these days, especially the high schools. I grew up in Texas, and I don’t think I’d want my kids going to my old public school.


41 posted on 02/21/2008 9:06:36 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: metmom

So is this like, “I Am Charlotte Simmons” for the middle and high school crowds?


42 posted on 02/21/2008 9:44:16 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: metmom

“The author is just trying to get a cheap thrill, knowing impressionable kids are going to read this kind of stuff, and they have to know that they will be undermining parental authority, and contributing to the corruption of today’s youth.”

It’s not just the schools. Idaho law allows doctors to prescribe birth control pills for minor children, then conspire with the children to conceal this from the parents.

And nobody — not even Idaho Freepers — seems to give a flying jump at a rolling doughnut.


43 posted on 02/21/2008 10:56:02 PM PST by dsc
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To: metmom
“ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL”

Correct! I’ve heard very few reasons for not homeschooling that make any sense at all, and most of them are born of wanting to live a worldly or luxurious lifestyle, or having to keep up with the Jones’. The moral-spiritual wellbeing of the children falls down unacceptably far on the list of parents’ priorities.

I’ve heard not one single good reason in the last ten years to leave a child in a government run school of any kind. Not one!

44 posted on 02/21/2008 11:03:08 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: metmom

I just google the book and it has great reviews for a sexy raw look at class,race and gender issue of a female adolescent. Good Grief. Propaganda for the children. What happened to Little Women.


45 posted on 02/21/2008 11:05:37 PM PST by therut
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To: antceecee

“Why didn’t the mother forbid her child to read the book?”

I am all for parental responsibility, but expecting a parent to be familiar with all 200 books on a given book list is a bit much. There should be some element of trust a parent can have in a school - they should be able to assume the school will not give the kids porn to read.


46 posted on 02/21/2008 11:05:48 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: metmom
I would take that book provider off my list of providers. We’ll see how strong their beliefs truly are when they lose their contracts one school after another.

Their calloused response is typical.

47 posted on 02/22/2008 12:23:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: John Leland 1789
Correct! I’ve heard very few reasons for not homeschooling that make any sense at all, and most of them are born of wanting to live a worldly or luxurious lifestyle, or having to keep up with the Jones’. The moral-spiritual wellbeing of the children falls down unacceptably far on the list of parents’ priorities.

Homeschooling is the best option if you can can make it work. The problem is that not everyone can afford it. My cousin and his wife seriously looked into homeschooling. However, the only way that they could do it was if she quit her job. Without her income, he would have to start taking a ton of overtime work in order to get by. Since he'd be working all the time, he'd hardly ever be home to spend any time with the kids. In the end, they decided that it was better for the kids that to have a dad that is available than to homeschool them

And trust me, their decision wasn't about making enough money to satisfy worldly desires. They weren't thinking, "If we homeschool we won't be able to afford that new plasma TV." They were thinking about how best to feed and house their kids, while simultaneously being able to actually spend time with them.

48 posted on 02/22/2008 2:22:37 AM PST by Balke
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To: metmom

See http://www.safelibraries.org/pushers.htm


49 posted on 02/22/2008 3:48:47 AM PST by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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To: Amendment10; Loud Mime

Bump

Ping

Great Jefferson quote and very useful.


50 posted on 02/22/2008 4:16:07 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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