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China, India speed climate change: Australian report
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 2/21/08 | Neil Sands

Posted on 02/21/2008 12:44:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge

SYDNEY (AFP) - The economic rise of China and India means climate change is occurring faster than previously thought, making efforts to fix the problem more urgent, an official Australian report found Thursday.

The government-commissioned report called for stronger international commitment to addressing climate change, saying current efforts "still fall far short of getting deep cuts in global emissions underway."

It warned Australia, already hot and dry, was more vulnerable to climate change than any other developed country and needed to lead efforts to reduce the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

The government brushed aside the report's call for more ambitious climate change targets, though Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said Australia no longer had the policy of "denial" adopted by his predecessor John Howard.

Rudd commissioned the report, written by economics professor Ross Garnaut, before his centre-left government was elected last November.

Since then, he has made action on climate change the centrepiece of his government's environmental policy, signing the Kyoto Protocol as his first act in office after Howard refused for a decade.

In his interim findings, Garnaut said rapid industrialisation in China and India meant climate change was happening faster than expected and the solution lay in finding clean methods of achieving global economic expansion.

"Due to a sustained period of high economic growth led by China and India, the world is moving towards high risks of dangerous climate change more rapidly than has been generally understood," he said.

"Faster emissions growth makes mitigation more urgent and more costly," he said. "The challenge is to end the linkage between economic growth and emissions of greenhouse gases."

Garnaut said the Rudd government needed to go beyond its existing commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 60 percent by 2050, although he did not nominate an alternative figure.

He also said Australia should set an interim target for 2020, saying a lead had been provided by the European Union, which last month pledged to cut carbon dioxide emissions by 20 percent by 2020, compared to 1990 levels.

Garnaut said while all climate change models contained uncertainties, the seriousness of the outcomes they projected meant strong action was warranted, even if it came at an economic cost.

"Prudent risk management would suggest that it is worth the sacrifice of a significant amount of current income to avoid a small chance of a catastrophic outcome," he said.

Rudd told parliament just before the report's release that Australia was determined to become a leader in the campaign for climate change, although he made no fresh commitments on the issue.

"The government accepts that the scientific evidence is in that climate change is real, it is happening and no longer can this nation afford to be in any state of denial," he said.

The report released Thursday was an interim version and the final draft due later this year had been expected to form the basis of Rudd's climate policy.

However, Climate Change Minister Penny Wong said the government would also use other models when formulating what she said would be a "responsible" policy, insisting the 2050 target had not changed.

Professor Barry Brook, director of the Research Institute for Climate Change and Sustainability, said the report showed that swift action was critical.

"It's a clarion call for Australia to act -- in all of our interests," he said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: agw; china; climatechange; india; speed

1 posted on 02/21/2008 12:44:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

There it is...the beginning of the end of the global warming ruse - it has backfired.


2 posted on 02/21/2008 12:45:18 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: NormsRevenge

How long before we get a ‘consensus’ among every scientist who has ever lived that it’s only capitalist C02 that causes global warming? And this is not sarcasm; Orwell’s prophecy has come true. People are capable of believing absolutely anything.


3 posted on 02/21/2008 12:51:22 PM PST by Spok (Ignorance is no excuse-it's the real thing.)
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To: Spok
How long before we get a ‘consensus’ among every scientist who has ever lived that it’s only capitalist C02 that causes global warming?

We are there already. The Kyoto Treaty exempts China.

4 posted on 02/21/2008 12:56:15 PM PST by marron
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To: marron

And India.


5 posted on 02/21/2008 12:59:40 PM PST by Jason Kauppinen
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh my goodness sake...What is this? A global warming article from the MSM that admits China and India are part of the problem? Amazing. Not quite as amazing a Rudd thinking Australia should do something about global warming...but pretty amazing, none the less.


6 posted on 02/21/2008 1:45:33 PM PST by goldfinch
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To: NormsRevenge

One more time. What temperature is the earth supposed to be? How do we know that the recent climate is the correct one? Maybe it’s trying to correct itself, and we’re screwing up by trying to stop that process.


7 posted on 02/21/2008 1:54:18 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: NormsRevenge
So much stupidity in one article. If China and India, with their billions of people, are ramping up their "greenhouse gas emissions," then what good on earth will it do for Australia, with its 30 million(?) people, to cut its emissions?

This article is an almost an admission that all of the measures we can take to "cut greenhouse gas emissions" will make us feel better about ourselves but do absolutely nothing to ameliorate global warming.

8 posted on 02/21/2008 2:06:26 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Prudent risk management would suggest that it is worth the sacrifice of a significant amount of current income to avoid a small chance of a catastrophic outcome,” he said.

NO — It is NOT worth the sacrifice of even an INSIGNIFICANT amount of current income to avoid ZERO chance of a catastrophic outcome.

There. I feel better now.


9 posted on 02/21/2008 2:35:43 PM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: NormsRevenge

The ‘climate change’ about which we may need to be concerned is ‘global cooling’, since there have been no sunspots recorded since about the middle of January. Fewer sunspots = more cooling. Has nothing to do with CO2, or anything else we humans are doing.


10 posted on 02/21/2008 3:16:00 PM PST by SuziQ
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11 posted on 02/21/2008 4:44:29 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: denydenydeny

India with 3 times the population of the USA emits less than 20% as much Greenhouse gas. So in terms of per capita emission, we have a long way to go compared to both China and the USA for ANYBODY to be critical of our emission.

Having said that, I don’t have data to compare the 3 countries on emission vs absolute GDP size, which I think should also be a parameter. If the USA and China can produce more at lesser energy consumption and greenhouse gas emission rate, then I believe India should try to improve its efficiency by production.

However, I don’t think India will listen to MSM or anyone preaching to us to consume less and maintain our lower living standards so that the rest of the world can continue with their lavish ways.


12 posted on 02/21/2008 6:06:52 PM PST by MimirsWell
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To: NormsRevenge; Brian S. Fitzgerald; Jason Kauppinen; marron; denydenydeny; Flycatcher
The Aussie report forgets a couple of things:
1. India and China, per capita pollute less than developed countries
2. Both countries emissions of greenhouse gases are currently lesser than that of any developed country (I need to check for China), HOWEVER, they are catching up fast and WILL surpass the smaller developed nations.

Reducing greenhouse emissions will help reduce pollution. This can be done in a number of ways:
1. Help India and China develop in non-polluting ways: that will be good for their environment and also for us asll
2. If you don't need to waste energy, don't -- heating your house in winter is good, but also put in double-glazed windows and check your insulation, so you don't need to waste energy.
3. And, yes, CO2 does cause climate change, and is a pollutant when it exceeds a certain level.
4. AUstralia CURRENTLY pollutes more than India, maybe China too. But they are catching up and have been polluting more as they undergo rapid development. Some sacrifices are needed in the developed world, like forcing manufacturers to make more fuel efficient cars (and I say it is possible to have an F150 that is as efficient as a Corolla if there's enough push)
5. Let's not send petro-dollars to the Middle East, let's use corn fuel and also, push for more fuel-efficient cars and for better public transport.
13 posted on 02/22/2008 6:05:52 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos
And, yes, CO2 does cause climate change

I'd argue more, but I have to go scrape the climate change off my car windows.

I guess we all should stop breathing.

14 posted on 02/22/2008 7:40:54 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny
I guess we all should stop breathing.

No, you're taking it to extremes -- probably you've been pushed and p***ed off by the enviro-wackos like PETA etc. I'm NOT saying we do the extremes, but the little things are good, little things like not keeping the tap on continuously while we shave or brush our teeth, little things like walking or taking a bicycle to get to a neighborhood store, little things like making sure our tyres are fully inflated so we don't waste fuel, like making sure our insulation in our houses is good. Can't you do that? Plus, it'll also save you some money.
15 posted on 02/23/2008 7:00:39 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: NormsRevenge

I just mentioned this to my semi-enviro whacked friend the other day - all those coal plants in China that have come on line in the last several years are a huge part of the problem. Even he agreed, having been there last year.


16 posted on 02/23/2008 7:52:12 AM PST by muleskinner
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Of course, the only reason to boycott the Olympics is Darfur... /sarc


17 posted on 02/23/2008 3:22:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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