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Students for Concealed Carry on Campus Responds to Conspiracy Charge by Brady Campaign
Students for Concealed Carry on Campus ^ | February 20, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 02/20/2008 7:14:59 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger

Four months after Peter Hamm, spokesperson for The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, verbally attacked the college-based, grassroots organization Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, telling a Fox News reporter, "You don't like the fact that you can't have a gun on your college campus? Drop out of school," he is stepping up the rhetoric. Not content with encouraging college students to forgo their educations rather than fight for a cause in which they believe, Mr. Hamm has resorted to baseless conspiracy theories and slander.

In a February 19, 2008, interview with Anna Hipsley of Australia’s ABC News radio, Mr. Hamm made the following statement about SCCC:

“We know very clearly that they were organized and they are funded by the gun industry, by the companies that are selling the guns. This is not some spontaneous, grassroots organization."

Scott Lewis, media coordinator for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, responded, “In a way I kind of envy the Brady Campaign. It must be so much easier to run an advocacy group when you don’t feel obligated to substantiate anything you say.” Mr. Lewis went on to categorically deny that either the gun industry or the gun lobby have played any part in the organizing or financing of SCCC:

“A few small gun shops have donated holsters for students to use in our Empty Holster Protests, and the Front Sight Firearms Training Institute, located in Nevada, sent us three gift certificates that we’re going to auction to raise money. And after SCCC started making national news, a couple of months ago, the NRA sent me a hat and a T-shirt. But other than that, we’ve never received anything from the gun industry or the gun lobby. So far, our entire operating budget has come out of the pockets of our members—mostly poor college students who strongly believe in this cause. About a month ago we opened a bank account and started accepting donations, to help raise the money we need to incorporate. So far we’ve raised a combined total of $610.02, from online donations and T-shirt sales.”

In response to the allegations made by the Brady Campaign, SCCC’s response is simple—“Prove it.” In the name of full disclosure, SCCC is willing to make all of its financial records available to the media if the Brady Campaign will do the same. Explained Lewis, “After building SCCC on a foundation of our own sweat equity and financial sacrifices, our members are incensed that the Brady Campaign is accusing us of being well paid pawns.”

Though the Brady Campaign likes to attribute all efforts to maintain and/or restore gun rights in America to an all-powerful gun industry that uses coercion and manipulation to subvert the true wishes of the American people, the real American gun industry has an annual revenue of only about $2 billion, leaving it inadequately funded for the job of manipulating the American government or the American people. At the true heart of the fight for gun rights in America are everyday people, like the members and organizers of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus—people who believe they have the inalienable right to defend themselves and who trust their fellow citizens enough to guarantee them that same right.

Despite the Brady Campaign’s baseless accusations and constant barrage of insults—such as Brady Campaign President Paul Helmke’s statement on Fox News, on October 26, 2007, that SCCC members are students who “like to dress up” to “feel more masculine”—they are unable to go toe-to-toe with SCCC on the facts. And because the organizers of SCCC are confident that facts will win out over rhetoric every time, the national officers for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus wish to extend the board of directors of The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence an open invitation to debate the issue of concealed carry on college campuses, on the campus of any University in the United States of America.

For more information, contact Scott Lewis at media@concealedcampus.org, or visit http://www.ConcealedCampus.org.

ABOUT STUDENTS FOR CONCEALED CARRY ON CAMPUS - Students for Concealed Carry on Campus is a national, non-partisan, grassroots organization comprised of over 15,000 college students, college faculty members, parents of college students, and concerned citizens who believe that holders of concealed handgun licenses should enjoy the same rights on college campuses that current laws afford them virtually everywhere else. SCCC is dedicated to persuading state governments and school administrators to approve laws and campus policies that will grant all citizens with concealed handgun licenses the right to carry their concealed handguns on college campuses. We are not affiliated with the NRA, a political party, or any other organization.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: academia; banglist; bradycampaign; bradywatch; campuscarry; concealedcampus; concealedcarry; concealedcarrycampus; education; gunfreezone; paulhelmke; peterhamm; sccc; virginiatech
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1 posted on 02/20/2008 7:15:01 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger
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To: DaveLoneRanger

An honest government would have the Brady Bunch in prison on sedition and RICO charges.

Conspiracy to destroy the Constitution of the United States.


2 posted on 02/20/2008 7:16:59 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

“We know very clearly that they were organized and they are funded by the gun industry, by the companies that are selling the guns. This is not some spontaneous, grassroots organization.”

The left always accuses its enemies of the things they are doing themselves.

Let’s see an audit of theyre grass roots funding!


3 posted on 02/20/2008 7:19:17 AM PST by Ender Wiggin
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To: DaveLoneRanger

It wasn’t bad enough that poor Brady had his life stolen from him, now his good name has been also. A true American tragedy.


4 posted on 02/20/2008 7:25:08 AM PST by DManA
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To: Ender Wiggin

The heck of it is, being well-funded sounds kind of nice! If I’m going to be accused of it, you’d think I could at least enjoy the perks along with the costs.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 7:27:08 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (ConcealedCampus.com)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

If the Brady Bunch believes this student organization is funded by the arms industry, then it is just as likely that the Brady Bunch is funded by armed criminals intent on keeping the general public defenseless.

Let’s compare the books of both groups & see who funds whom!


6 posted on 02/20/2008 7:29:34 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: DManA

It isn’t stolen if you give it away.


7 posted on 02/20/2008 7:29:50 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (ConcealedCampus.com)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Hoplophobes! If a person was subject to panic attacks at the mention of any other inanimate object, the would be hospitalized for treatment, yet these Hoplophobes are treated as if they weren’t profoundly mentally ill.


8 posted on 02/20/2008 7:32:13 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: DManA

“It wasn’t bad enough that poor Brady had his life stolen from him, now his good name has been also. A true American tragedy.”

Don’t assume that Jim Brady had his “good name” stolen from him. He and his wife are alive, well and very involved in the Brady Campaign. Don’t assume since he was Reagan’s press secretary that he is not a gun grabber. I don’t know what his feelings were before he got shot, but I assume from his response to being shot that he was a gun grabber then.

It is a tragedy that he got shot, however he is a willing accomplice in the Brady Campaign.


9 posted on 02/20/2008 7:33:03 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: DaveLoneRanger
In the name of full disclosure, SCCC is willing to make all of its financial records available to the media if the Brady Campaign will do the same.

There's the challenge.

Any bets this will happen?

10 posted on 02/20/2008 7:37:09 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Peter Hamm, spokesperson for The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.. "You don't like the fact that you can't have a gun on your college campus? Drop out of school,"

Peter, if you don't like the second amendment.. LEAVE THE COUNTRY!!
11 posted on 02/20/2008 7:37:52 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; DaveLoneRanger

After being shot in the head he was not the same person.


12 posted on 02/20/2008 7:39:14 AM PST by DManA
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Goddam Brady Bunch. Just because the guy took a bullet for Ronald Reagan doesn’t give him the right to screw me over on my rights to bear arms...I mean...taking a bullet for the president was in the job description...right?


13 posted on 02/20/2008 7:47:24 AM PST by Chucktallica101
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To: DManA

“After being shot in the head he was not the same person.”

Just curious, how do you know this? He was Reagan’s press secretary (and in the public eye) for only a couple of months before he got shot. Quite frankly I don’t remember anything about the man pre-assisnation. I don’t even remember hearing any of his press conferences and I was a politically active adult at that time. Have you read his biography or do you know him personally?

The reason I base my assumption that he was a gun grabber even before being shot is because usually when there is a tragedy involving guns with a 2nd amendment supporter you usually get the response that someone like Suzana Haup has upon seeing her parents gunned down in the Killeen massacre.


14 posted on 02/20/2008 7:48:39 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Chucktallica101

“I mean...taking a bullet for the president was in the job description...right?”

That would be the secret service’s job description. He was the press secretary.


15 posted on 02/20/2008 7:49:23 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Just what I’ve read. A big chunk of his brain was destroyed. He’s just a shell of a man who is being manipulated by his wife.


16 posted on 02/20/2008 7:50:25 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

They, the Bradys, have no right to be mad at millions of law biding gun owners.

The only person they should be angry with is John Hinckley,
and the D.C. jurors who let him off lightly with the insanity defense.


17 posted on 02/20/2008 7:56:54 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The heck of it is, being well-funded sounds kind of nice! If I’m going to be accused of it, you’d think I could at least enjoy the perks along with the costs.

This type of accusation is SOP from ANY organization that receives funding from the Robert Woods Johnson Foundatiom, and the Brady Bunch receives a bunch of money from RWJF.

I used to be a board member of a grassroots organization that fights smoking bans, the organization is constantly underfire as being a front group for the tobacco industry and being funded by them, by organizations funded by RWJF. Like you, we would love to enjoy such funding we are accused of, but alas the tobacco industry is not interested.

18 posted on 02/20/2008 7:57:40 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

They were the first of what has become a sad trend of people desperately trying to find meaning in a senseless tragedy by getting new restrictive laws named after their loved one.


19 posted on 02/20/2008 7:59:27 AM PST by DManA
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Despite the Brady Campaign’s baseless accusations and constant barrage of insults—such as Brady Campaign President Paul Helmke’s statement on Fox News, on October 26, 2007, that SCCC members are students who “like to dress up” to “feel more masculine”

Oh, that's rich coming from this guy. Does he even realize that any dude who joins a gun-control organization is either gay or a complete pu$$y?

20 posted on 02/20/2008 8:00:35 AM PST by jmc813 (Ron Paul is the only pro-lifer/non-gun grabber left running for President)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
That would be the secret service’s job description. He was the press secretary.

Oh well in that case...he can go die for all I care. John Hinckley was the one who committed the crime. They should take up their hate with him not the rest of us.

21 posted on 02/20/2008 8:01:31 AM PST by Chucktallica101
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Oh, please! Oh, please! A civil suit would release the hounds of deposition! How we would love to see Brady’s books, supporters list, and officers’ salaries!


22 posted on 02/20/2008 8:02:54 AM PST by pabianice
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The heck of it is, being well-funded sounds kind of nice!

I agree. I just sent these guys a few bucks. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Link here.

23 posted on 02/20/2008 8:02:59 AM PST by jmc813 (Ron Paul is the only pro-lifer/non-gun grabber left running for President)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Violation of RICO and USC Title 18 Sect 241.

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241
Conspiracy Against Rights

This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).

It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.

24 posted on 02/20/2008 8:04:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Good for them! We all need to stand up and fight the gun grabbers.


25 posted on 02/20/2008 8:05:24 AM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

May God bless these students. With students like these there is hope for America’s future. If a large percentage of students were packing there would be no campus shootings.


26 posted on 02/20/2008 8:06:04 AM PST by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: Dead Corpse

We have the law, we need only the honest government.

Fat chance.


27 posted on 02/20/2008 8:07:43 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: Gabz
This type of accusation is SOP from ANY organization that receives funding from the Robert Woods Johnson Foundatiom, and the Brady Bunch receives a bunch of money from RWJF.

It makes me sick every year when I have to pony up hundreds of dollars for my Jets season tickets, knowing that it's going into the pocket of that scumbag Woody Johnson.

28 posted on 02/20/2008 8:07:51 AM PST by jmc813 (Ron Paul is the only pro-lifer/non-gun grabber left running for President)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Sarah Brady is a serial killer. How many women have been murdered because of the 5-day waiting period after their ex-husbands’ restraining orders expired and they were told they would be killed? How many innocents have been killed while criminals have not lost a single avenue of illegal guns to purchase? Her own husband was shot with an illegal handgun—no law on the books worldwide would have stopped Hinckley. I despise Sarah Brady.


29 posted on 02/20/2008 8:09:17 AM PST by montag813
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To: DaveLoneRanger
In the name of full disclosure, SCCC is willing to make all of its financial records available to the media if the Brady Campaign will do the same.

Bwahahahahaha!

I just love it when liberal hypocrites are called out.

Inflammatory, baseless rhetoric is their stock and trade.

30 posted on 02/20/2008 8:09:31 AM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: Chucktallica101

“Oh well in that case...he can go die for all I care.”

You are the sensitive type aren’t you?

Look, I’m totally against everything that Brady stands for, but I do not wish ill will on their members. That is the tactict of the left to wish their political enemies dead. See Bill Maher for further review...


31 posted on 02/20/2008 8:15:07 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Siberian-psycho
If a large percentage of students were packing there would be no campus shootings.

It doesn't take a large percentage of people packing.

Merely the possiblily that someone MIGHT fight back, that is the deterrent.

In these gun-free zones, they can have confidence that nobody can

32 posted on 02/20/2008 8:17:57 AM PST by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: jmc813
It makes me sick every year when I have to pony up hundreds of dollars for my Jets season tickets, knowing that it's going into the pocket of that scumbag Woody Johnson.

That is among the reasons I am no longer a Jets fan..........

33 posted on 02/20/2008 8:18:58 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: montag813
How many innocents have been killed while criminals have not lost a single avenue of illegal guns to purchase?

Good question.

As an aside, Mrs. Brady herself has illegally purchased a firearm. I do not have all the details at the tip of my fingers, but sometime back she purchased a firearm for her son, in direct violation of Delaware law.

34 posted on 02/20/2008 8:22:13 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: digger48

Point taken


35 posted on 02/20/2008 8:24:26 AM PST by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: Gabz
That is among the reasons I am no longer a Jets fan..........

Unfortunately, I was brainwashed from an early age and my father would disassociate himself with me if I abandoned the Jets.

36 posted on 02/20/2008 8:36:43 AM PST by jmc813 (Ron Paul is the only pro-lifer/non-gun grabber left running for President)
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To: DManA
He’s just a shell of a man who is being manipulated by his wife.

Bingo. I don't believe James Brady really has anything to do with it. I think it's all Sara and James no longer has the capacity to take his own stance.

The Brady Campaign with this statement has basically just gone to the Big Oil Card(tm). And of course the loonies will listen even though no proof is brought forward.

37 posted on 02/20/2008 8:39:13 AM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: DManA
Sarah Brady has had a continuous episode of "Weekend at Bernie's" using Jim as her prop. She makes a good living spewing anti-gun rhetoric. It's disgusting behavior. I hope that all who have been disarmed and killed because of her efforts are given a chance to respond when her judgment day arrives.
38 posted on 02/20/2008 8:39:51 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: jmc813

LOL!!! My dad is a Giants fan :) Growing up in Brooklyn you were a Giants fan or a Jets fan, a Yankees fan or a Mets fan, a Knicks fan or Nets fan...........and never the twain should meet.


39 posted on 02/20/2008 8:42:45 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz
You are correct. She performed a straw purchase of a 30-06 rifle for her son so he wouldn't have to go through the background check.

Though to be fair technically this was not a true violation as it was a gift for a family member, however this is the exact type of thing the Brady Campaign claims is an illegal purchase and is trying to shut down.

40 posted on 02/20/2008 8:43:18 AM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Domandred

Thank you for refreshing my memory.

While I agree that it was not technically a violation, it does remain hypocritical, to say the least.


41 posted on 02/20/2008 8:48:53 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: jmc813

You da man! We’ll put it towards the “expensive penthouse” fund, being the well-funded gun lobbyists that we are...


42 posted on 02/20/2008 8:51:06 AM PST by DaveLoneRanger (ConcealedCampus.com)
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To: Gabz

As an aside, Mrs. Brady herself has illegally purchased a firearm. I do not have all the details at the tip of my fingers, but sometime back she purchased a firearm for her son, in direct violation of Delaware law.


Howdy Gabz! Hope all is well with you and yours!

Here's a link to an article with some info:

Gun Owners of America embraces Brady's son -- Gets honorary membership after Sarah admits 'straw' rifle purchase

43 posted on 02/20/2008 9:10:33 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: Dead Corpse

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 - Conspiracy Against Rights

I think should be brought up in the Heller vs. Parker case...yes?


44 posted on 02/20/2008 9:12:43 AM PST by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night...stupid dog?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

So far we’ve raised a combined total of $610.02, from online donations and T-shirt sales.


I just added $20 to that number. These guys are good, and getting great press on a shoestring. Let’s help them out!


45 posted on 02/20/2008 9:15:18 AM PST by Beelzebubba (I wish my old tagline could have defeated even more RINOs than it did.)
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To: EdReform

Howdy EdReform!!! All’s well here, hope the same for you and yours.

As to your linked article, all I can say is OUCH!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 02/20/2008 9:17:54 AM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
“We know very clearly that they were organized and they are funded by the gun industry, by the companies that are selling the guns. This is not some spontaneous, grassroots organization."

And even if that were true, so what?

Gun manufacturers are rightly interested in being able to sell what they make, just as the Brady life forms are interested in seeing them go under.

If one side is wrong, so is the other.

47 posted on 02/20/2008 9:23:40 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: mr_hammer

You’d hope so...


48 posted on 02/20/2008 9:26:38 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"...Brady Campaign’s baseless accusations and constant barrage of insults..."

Typical M.O....

Who supports concealed-carry? It's the people stupid. They have got to be one of the most, if not the most... amateurish organization I've ever read about.

Infantile, irresponsible, ignorance....it's just beyond words.

49 posted on 02/20/2008 9:42:30 AM PST by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
50 posted on 02/20/2008 9:56:53 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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