(1) Karl not Groucho :-)
Posted on 02/18/2008 11:28:24 AM PST by presidio9
Howard Wolfson, the Clinton campaign's communications director, today accused Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) of committing “plagiarism” in a speech in Milwaukee on Saturday night.
Wolfson made the explosive charge in an interview with Politico after suggesting as much in a conference call with reporters.
On the call, Wolfson said: “Sen. Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he’s breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn’t his own.”
"When an author plagiarizes from another author there is damage done to two different parties. One is to the person he plagiarized from. The other is to the reader," said Wolfson.
Obama closely echoed a passage from a speech that Deval Patrick, now the Massachusetts governor, used at a campaign rally when he was running for that office in 2006.
The Clinton campaign circulated a pair of YouTube links of the two speeches on Sunday.
Here's Patrick at a rally for his gubernatorial campaign on Oct. 15, 2006, during the final stretch of his successful campaign against then-Massachusetts Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey (R):
“But her dismissive point, and I hear it a lot from her staff, is that all I have to offer is words — just words. ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, [applause and cheers] that all men are created equal.’ [Sustained applause and cheers.] Just words – just words! ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’ Just words! ‘Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.’ Just words! ‘I have a dream.’ Just words!”
Here’s Obama on Saturday night at the Democratic Party of Wisconsin’s Founders Day Gala in Milwaukee:
“Don’t tell me words don’t matter! ‘I have a dream.’ Just words. ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.’ Just words! [Applause.] ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’ Just words — just speeches!”
An Obama official said: “They're friends who share similar views and talk and trade good lines all the time.”
Obama apparently ad-libbed the remark, which was not in his text.
The Massachusetts governor said in a statement: “Sen. Obama and I are longtime friends and allies. We often share ideas about politics, policy and language. The argument in question, on the value of words in the public square, is one about which he and I have spoken frequently before. Given the recent attacks from Sen. Clinton, I applaud him [for] responding in just the way he did.”
The Obama campaign immediately struck back with a document headlined: "Here are a couple of places Clinton freely borrowed rhetoric from Obama."
Among the examples are Clinton's use of Obama's signature chant "fired up and ready to go" in Davenport, Iowa, and later her echoing of his rally cry, "Yes, we can!"
The plagiarism wars are the nastiest turn yet in the Democratic presidential nomination race as the campaigns gird for clashes in debates in Texas and Ohio, to be followed by primaries in those states on March 4.
Extra butter on my popcorn, please! Shades of Plugs Biden...
Obama plagarized a friends comments that included famous MLK quotes.
So I guess Obama plagarized his friend and MLK.
THE CAMPAIGN WILL TAKE NO MONEY FROM PETER PAUL.
(1) Karl not Groucho :-)
This is the best the Clinton campaign can come up with? No wonder they’re losing.
I guarantee that Obama doesn’t write his own speeches, and neither does Hillary. The diff is that Obama can DELIVER speeches.
This sounds like a manufactured controversy. Heck, all politicians of a certain political leaning sound the same, because they are saying basically the same things.
Which amounts to, basically, nothing.
Appears the Clintons are very desparate nit-picking no substance people.
Didn't Bill Clinton steal the term "Bridge to the 21st Century". It was not an entirely original utterance that burst from his forked tongue.
Much ado about nothing....oh, oh, I must have heard that from someone else. Yes, I think so.
Perhaps, Putin is right, "at the least minimum, the head of state, should have a head." Mrs. Clinton clearly is not using hers, or it flew over the cuckoo's nest...
Yes, Mrs. Clinton language is a splendid thing, we all can use it, and express ourselves. We have an Amendment too, BTW, that protects it. Of course, being the small old petulant woman you are you don't like it other than for yourself.
Obama said he wrote this speech
Whenever I see, “Clinton aide accuses,” I just wanna’ LAUGH!!!
Obama called the charges ridiculous and said he wasn’t afaid to confront these charges head-on, adding that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
Apparently when Democrats get into congress they have to attend a class call original thought, which is taught by Joe Biden.
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JFK Speechwriter = TED SORENSEN
OBAMA Speechwriter = TED SORENSEN
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Don’t you see the incredible irony and hypocrisy? Hillary accused Obama of being an empty suit- just words and no action. And how does Obama respond to the charge? He steals someone else’s speech.
Hillary, Bill, and Maggie Williams are leafing through the papers he wrote at Harvard Law now.
Chuckles...
8^)
To: Perdogg; All
We have another thread running on the allegation that Obama is plaigerizing Deval Patrick’s speeches and campaign slogans. Turns out Obama and Deval share the same chief speechwriter.
That speechwriter is being sued by this Sinclair guy.
Now, leaping over to Deval Patrick a moment, his chief assistant is a guy under arrest for a homosexual rape against a 15 year old boy. That assistant is married to another guy.
Now, what am I supposed to think ~ we have the two highest ranking black politicians in America with what seem to be close associations with aggressive gay guys, or gay criminals, and they share a speech writer and who knows what else.
Is there a pattern to this and should we blame Hillary? Certainly she didn’t arrange for the rape.
171 posted on 02/17/2008 11:31:49 PM EST by muawiyah
Yes, and I'm enjoying the show very much.
Who plagiarized whose campaign slogan?
Axelrod says he did not write the speech for either one of them. Obama has admitted he took it from Patrick. And it doesn’t matter if Patrick and him are buds and Patrick gave him permission to use it. If my buddy gives me a copy of a paper he wrote and tells me to turn it in as mine in a class, does that make it ok?
Who gives a cr*p which Democrat stole from another Democrat!
iThenticate's Barrie: "we caught the speechwriter for Hillary Clinton plagiarizing"
KCRA | 6:30 p.m. newscast, July 6, 2006 | KCRA (NBC Sacramento)
Posted on 07/11/2006 10:13:59 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
Anchor: "And with us now is the president and CEO of the firm called iThenticate. Thank you for being with us tonight..."**Later**
Q: "When the Post asks you to go after Ann Coulter, did you know what were you getting into there?"
Barrie: "Well, this is what happened. The Post came to us originally and they were doing a story about how Oprah Winfrey was using our technology to screen things for her show. And the Post wanted to see an example of how our technology worked. So they took a 2005 speech from Hillary Clinton and ran it through our service. And right off the bat, we caught the speechwriter for Hillary Clinton plagiarizing. And the journalist from the Post said what else can we run through your service? And a couple weeks later as the brouhaha about Ann Coulter and what she said about the 9-11 widows was reaching its peak, the New York Post called me back and said Ann Coulter's book "Godless" is what we want to run through your system. They digitized the book and took one year of her syndicated columns and sent it over to us to analyze."
Q: "What did you find?"
Barrie: "And we found as I mentioned, found some textbook cases of plagiarism in both her syndicated columns and in the book. And after finding about three or four instances in the book and three or four instances in the column, I said look, I just had enough of reading Ann Coulter and the Post said 'That's enough for us. There's our story.' And case proven I guess."
“Obama, you’re a bad little boy!” Shame, shame.
Hillary’s campaign is considering suing Obama for plagiarism. Egged on by McCain’s economic advisor, Kevin Hassett’s contention that Obama’s economic plan “is the most shameless piece of plagiarism that I have ever seen,” Clinton’s brain-trust is reportedly weighing the option of filing a lawsuit.
“Everything in Senator Obama’s platform can be traced back to one or more of Senator Clinton’s ‘million ideas’ for America,” said Susan Lutes, attorney for the Clinton campaign. “Senator Clinton has staked out a comprehensive claim to every nuance of the nanny-state. There isn’t anything Obama can promise that she hasn’t already promised.”
Lutes threatened that “if Obama doesn’t immediately cease and desist the damages could run into the trillions of dollars.”
read more...
http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
And MLK was himself a plagiarizer. Lots of this stuff going on in the 'Rat party.
No one has taken offense at his mimicking of Martin Luther King?
Excerpt.
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,” that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
So just who is actually doing the plagarizing?
Obama using parts of Deval Patrick’s campaign
January 13, 2008 11:00 AM
January 13, 2008 11:00 AM
January 13, 2008 11:00 AM
BOSTON (AP) — Barack Obama told a New Hampshire audience he was borrowing a line from friend Deval Patrick, urging people to “vote your aspirations.” He joked that Patrick “stole a whole bunch of lines from me” during his gubernatorial campaign.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080113/NEWS/801130371/-1/rss01
Maybe someone handed Obama the Clintons’ FBI filess.
MLK plagiarized much of his dissertation. It’s just makes them more popular to be plagiarists. Half the voters don’t know what a plagiarist is anyway.
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