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Senate Votes to Ban Waterboarding
AP via SFGate ^ | 2/13/8 | PAMELA HESS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 02/13/2008 3:20:36 PM PST by SmithL

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- Congress on Wednesday moved to prohibit the CIA from using waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods on terror suspects, despite President Bush's threat to veto any measure that limits the agency's interrogation techniques.

The prohibition was contained in a bill authorizing intelligence activities for the current year, which the Senate approved on a 51-45 vote. It would restrict the CIA to the 19 interrogation techniques outlined in the Army field manual. That manual prohibits waterboarding, a method that makes an interrogation subject feel he is drowning.

The House had approved the measure in December. Wednesday's Senate vote set up a confrontation with the White House, where Bush has promised to veto any bill that restricts CIA questioning.

Arguing for such restrictions, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said the use of harsh tactics would boomerang on the United States.

"Retaliation is the way of the world. What we do to others, they will do to us — but worse," Rockefeller said. "This debate is about more than legality. It is also about morality, the way we see ourselves ... and what we represent to the world."

The legislation bars the CIA from using waterboarding, sensory deprivation or other harsh coercive methods to break a prisoner who refuses to answer questions. Those practices were banned by the military in 2006.

CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden said last week that current law and court decisions, including the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, cast doubt on whether waterboarding would be legal now. Hayden prohibited its use in CIA interrogations in 2006; it has not been used since 2003, he said.

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KEYWORDS: 110th; aidandcomfort; handwringers; interrogation; waterboarding

1 posted on 02/13/2008 3:20:37 PM PST by SmithL
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I wonder which 51 Senators were willing to give Aid and Comfort to America’s enemies.


2 posted on 02/13/2008 3:21:36 PM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: SmithL

Is this the McCain-Reid bill?


3 posted on 02/13/2008 3:21:48 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: SmithL

Funny, but many who are now voting against waterboarding were briefed on it back in ‘02, and gave it the go ahead.


4 posted on 02/13/2008 3:22:50 PM PST by squidly
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To: SmithL
Use snow instead.


5 posted on 02/13/2008 3:25:18 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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To: squidly

I watched a little of this today; McCain voted NO; and if the bobsey twins from Maine (collins and snowe) and stuck with the rest of the republicans, the vote would have failed. But, the girls voted with the democrats. Lieberman also voted NO.

That is all I remember from watching.


6 posted on 02/13/2008 3:25:39 PM PST by Laverne
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To: SmithL

The RATS want 2 things:

1) To identify any PUBBIE who voted against them as supporting Torture;

2) To make GW veto it and then let the MSM Hang him!


7 posted on 02/13/2008 3:25:40 PM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: SmithL
Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said the use of harsh tactics would boomerang on the United States

Yeah. Sure. Just like whatever we were doing before 9/11 boomeranged on us. What were we doing before 9/11 again? The Senate goes into clown mode again.

8 posted on 02/13/2008 3:25:44 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: SmithL
Arguing for such restrictions, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said the use of harsh tactics would boomerang on the United States.

"Retaliation is the way of the world. What we do to others, they will do to us — but worse," Rockefeller said. "This debate is about more than legality. It is also about morality, the way we see ourselves ... and what we represent to the world."

What breathtaking stupidity.

9 posted on 02/13/2008 3:26:38 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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Rockefeller is of course wrong about the "boomerang" effect. Our enemies have been torturing our guys for decades, and regardless of whether or not we were doing it to them. Enemies who torture do not do so based on U.S. policy.

All that being said, I don't think our national security depends on whether we waterboard or not. There are a whole lot of ways to skin a cat.

10 posted on 02/13/2008 3:30:32 PM PST by squidly
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To: SmithL

11 posted on 02/13/2008 3:31:33 PM PST by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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To: SmithL

12 posted on 02/13/2008 3:32:15 PM PST by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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To: SmithL
Poor addle brained Rockefeller ~ he's got it backwards. It's not that the world is going to follow our example when it comes to interrogations ~ they will do what they want anyway.

We have to be concerned with the possibility that we fail to sufficiently interrogate captured enemy and thereby create conditions where that enemy can kill our citizens, our soldiers, and maybe even members of the Senate ~ I'm still struggling with that one ~ should the Senate be protected?

13 posted on 02/13/2008 3:32:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SmithL

14 posted on 02/13/2008 3:32:46 PM PST by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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To: SmithL
Poor addle brained Rockefeller ~ he's got it backwards. It's not that the world is going to follow our example when it comes to interrogations ~ they will do what they want anyway.

We have to be concerned with the possibility that we fail to sufficiently interrogate captured enemy and thereby create conditions where that enemy can kill our citizens, our soldiers, and maybe even members of the Senate ~ I'm still struggling with that one ~ should the Senate be protected?

15 posted on 02/13/2008 3:34:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TRY ONE

At this point I don’t think GW gives a $hit.


16 posted on 02/13/2008 3:35:27 PM PST by kempo (H)
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