Posted on 02/13/2008 7:43:47 AM PST by IrishMike
Interesting development in the Democratic delegate fight -- one that pits civil rights leader against civil rights leader.
As you know, the DNC stripped the Michigan and Florida Democratic parties of its delegates as punishment for moving up their primaries to earlier in the process than the national party wanted them to.
With no candidate campaigning having taken place in those states, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, cruised to early victories in Michigan on January 15 -- where hers was the only name on the ballot -- and in Florida on January 29, and is now claiming those delegates. Needless to say, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, disputes this.
The DNC has said both states can holds caucuses to comply with party rules and have recognized delegates.
Yesterday, Clinton's side of the argument got a boost when NAACP chairman Julian Bond wrote to DNC chair Howard Dean to express "great concern at the prospect that million of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted." Not seating the Michigan and Florida delegations would remind Americans of the "sordid history of racially discriminatory primaries," Bond said.
This morning, Rev. Al Sharpton sided with Obama, writing to Dean to express the opposite sentiment.
"I firmly believe that changing the rules now, and seating delegates from Florida and Michigan at this point would not only violate the Democratic party's rules of fairness, but also would be a grave injustice," Sharpton wrote. "Changing the rules in the middle of a presidential contest is patently unfair both to the candidates (including Senator Edwards) and to Democratic voters everywhere."
Sharpton said that Bond's argument of disenfranchisement "should have been made many months ago before the decision was made to strip these states of their delegates"
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I fear you may very well be correct.
This is fun
LOL, Bonds: it is racist to disenfranchise black voters by refusing to hand the delegates to the white lady against whom the black voters voted.
Hillary wants those delegations seated at the convention because she won the non-binding votes. If she had not won those states, she and her henchmen would be arguing that they shouldn’t be seated because they had been stripped of the delegates, and how you shouldn’t change the rules after the game is played, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Whatever helps the Clintons, that’s the side of the argument they will take.
There was no primary. There was an unsanctioned election.
The votes were menaingless and signify nothing.
I thought I heard Rush say the Beast was the only name on the Florida ballots -
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Anyone from Florida care to verify ?
I would LOVE for the DemonRats to DISCOUNT ALL VOTES FROM FLORIDA.
That would be some karma kind of poetic justice that would be a laughline for generations.
Can you imagine the party of the hanging chads actually finalizing a decision that says
DON’T COUNT FLORIDA VOTES!!!
ROTFLOL!!!!
The decision to disenfranchise was made by the Democrat National Committee. Both candidates knew the rules going in. Now, two disgusting racist operations are going after each other, Sharpton vs NAACP. After all, since they are black, they are victims either way, right? Isn’t that what the modern “civil rights” movement teaches blacks? Point the finger somewhere else when you don’t get waht you “are entitled to”.
Their ignorance is clear for the whole world to see, and I pray for mutual self-destruction on both sides, there is nothing more richly deserved.
And our reward for all of this? President John McCain. You take what you can get.
This reminds me of the argument used to support dumping the NJ dem candidate for senator (or was it governor?) when Torricelli dropped out due to revealed corruption several years ago. I forget the exact details, but I think after he won the primary, he withdrew and the Dem Machine insisted on replacing him so that the voters could have a choice (of course, they had already voted on their choice). So it’s a new MO to flout rules and then whine that the voters have not been allowed their voice...
If this is permitted, we no longer live under democratic rule.
I am not even a democrat, but I will be disgusted with the whole process!
Bonds is an idiot liar of the type the Clitons attract like moths to a street light.
Lets review: Your organization is dedicated to the advancement of colored people, and a colored person is on the verge of winning a major party nomination for President that gives him a good chance of becoming the first Black President of the USA.
Your organization should:
A. Support the first legitimate black presidential hopeful.
B. Support to the corrupt white lady who is running a thinly veiled racist campaign.
DUH!
What a fake. What a fraud. NAACP donations should plummet in the wake of this. It’s a rare day when I agree with Al Sharpton about anything, but he’s on the nose on this one.
Al Sharpton. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, for now. You go Al and we will be singing ding dong the wicked witch is dead in the streets.
either way they lose
I absolutely agree with you. And as much as I dislike and distrust him, Sharpton is correct. Either way it pans out it is going to be ugly.
Not a problem in Fla 2000, though, right Al?
Port St. Lucie Florida here.
Accurate, as a result of the Democrat not sanctioning the vote long before hand all candidates took their names off the ballot. Only Mrs. Clinton kept her name ON the blalot.
For once Mr. Sharpton is correct.Don’t expect it to happen again in your lifetime.
...and I though she lost to “None of the Above” in Michigan...
No, but undesignated did get about 40% of the vote so it was not a very impressive win for Hillary.
Sharpton is funny. As much as I dislike his stands at times, there are other times when I agree more with him than the others about him. I never discount what he says. I’ve learned to listen first...
It sure is. But imagine how much more fun it would be if the right could actually rally around a candidate we liked and trusted.
Thank you,
Rush is correct 98.9 % of the time.
How is the weather there ?,
my folks are vacationing in Clearwater Beach.
It's Coming!!!
Like AND Trust....c'mon Corin. That's a tall order.
I may say-ay-ay-ay
You're a dreamer
But you're not the only one
Someday I ho-o-o-o-pe
You'll join us
And then you'll Distrust everyone.
Not true in St. Johns County. I'm a recovering Demo who has never changed party affiliations. I got the Dem ballot and voted for Mike Gravel. I figured he was obscure enough not to matter. When I checked to election results he got 50 votes in St. johns County. So I figure there are 49 other voters in my county as lazy as I am :-)
I can’t decide which racist pandering civil rights side of the argument I’m on. Hmmm. Thank God I’m not african-American, I’d be all perplexed about who owns my thoughts.
See post #19 from Port St. Lucie Florida
The NAACP is bought and paid for by Clinton Inc.
In Michigan, Hillary along with Kookcinich and Richardson were on the ballot.
ping
The demonRAT's UGLY is my orgasm.
This is beautiful.
This is like throwing two starving rats into a pit with one small piece of cheese.
I saw that. Must be a South Florida issue. I know for a fact in St. Johns and Duval County all the Dems were on the ballot.
Last two days has rained all day but we really need it. Tomorrow will clear up and be a bit chilly, maybe 70.
My wife is visiting her folks in St. Pere and it’s pretty much the same there.
Still better than most places though.
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