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Posted on 02/08/2008 2:25:14 PM PST by angelcindy
What would Americans think, then, of a member of Congress who introduced legislation, not to improve health care in the United States, but to improve health care in Mexico?
What would Americans think, then, of a member of Congress who introduced legislation, not to improve health care in the United States, but to improve health care in Mexico? Even more unbelievable, the senator who sponsored the bill is not on the verge of being thrown out of office for this odious piece of legislation. No, the senator who introduced the bill, Senator John McCain of Arizona, is on the verge of locking up the Republican nomination to be our next president
JUAN AND OBAMA WILL MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENS..
As Rush said this morning, our principle task now as conservatives appears to be electing conservative Senators and Representatives as a bulwark against the Executive branch, whoever that might be.
I think we already did that and they turned on us.
Since when do Hispanics have oodles of money to finance themselves? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?
Eternal vigilance is required.
Another thread was posted on this topic yesterday, from another url, but the thread was removed. In that thread, the bill and relevant portion of it was included. Anyone know which bill this was—when using this story for an argument, it’s always nice to be able to quote from the original bill.
Global thinking
The two Juan's have moved in together.
It's in the article.
Clickable links are our friends.
"Unbelievable as it may seem, the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act of 2005 contained a provision giving insurance companies the right to help devise a plan for extending US health care to Mexico (Sec. 1004. BINATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND HEALTH INSURANCE)."
And this:
"Barack Obama co-sponsored John McCain’s health care for Mexico legislation."
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I suppsoe he wants to fund this with Ameros too.
Here comes the NAU folks. Maybe I will move to Costa Rica after all.
Vote Huckabee.
Clickable links might be YOUR friend, but this one isn’t mine. Black backgrounds with white print is an eye-killer for me. But thanks for the cite. I was sorry to see yesterday’s article was removed. This is the kind of thing that needs to be publicized—and yeah, Obama WOULD support a bill like this. He’s a DemocRAT, after all. Republicans are supposed to be smarter than that.
I don’t think my blood pressure can take much more of the utter stupidity....no, arrogance and elitist disregard for the hard working taxpayers of our country...having a heck of a time just paying our own bill, let alone the so and so Mexicans. If this Administration is so hell bent on nation building, I think Senior Bush would have set his eyes on annexing that corrupt cesspool south of the border...it probably wouldn't’t be as much of a drag on our economy as it is now....especially if we could send every one of them back down to their own country. They could work on pulling it out of the gutter...but no, it’s too darned easy to suck the gov teat of the US gov. I’m beginning to think our gov. is fast becoming as corrupt as theirs .
The message when I clicked on it said something about it being linked to the vdare.com site—the article itself didn’t seem to be on vdare.com (or at least I couldn’t find it) so I’m not sure what the glitch was.
I’m with you, and I’m trying to let people in my area know what McCain and the ‘Rats (and really, lots more including the President) are trying to do to this country.
I’m surrounded by very conservative, but lifelong Democrats who don’t do much homework before voting. The most common comment I hear is, “I’ve voted Democrat all my life, and that’s how I’ll vote now.” When I ask if they approve of abortion or gay marriage or open borders, they’ll almost always look at me in horror and say NO, no way. I like to point out that this is what their political party, their lifelong political party, is trying to foist on us. I don’t think they quite believe me—at first.
When I’m able to prove what some of the elites are trying to do to us, it helps wake them up. Sometimes they’ll still say, “But the Republicans are worse,” but I know I’ve made them think.
And sometimes, they do more than just think—they start doing some research, and that’s when you can see the light go on.
I’m not sure this would be a bad thing. Designed by insurance companies, geez....isn’t that how our present plans are designed, and aren’t people getting coverage through those insurance companies, and doesn’t someone have to pay those insurance companies for the coverage? What would it hurt if Mexicans were buying insurance from our insurance companies? They have traditionally done a pretty good job for us. It’s lawsuits and mandated coverages people don’t care about that are drive costs up, and cost shifting from those without coverage to those who have it. But, if Mexicans are covered, those costs won’t be shifted to you and me anymore.
Good luck with that. As John K. Galbraith once said, "Politics is not the art of the impossible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." Juan may be unpalatable, Hillary Obama would be disastrous. Besides, Juan's meager coattails may be the best we can now hope for.
This is the section on the health care study for mexico.
(Sec. 1004. BINATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND HEALTH INSURANCE).
They don't go on around here. People still vote for the guy whose taking the most from them. I don't get it.
I met someone who years ago tried to sell insurance to the Mexican Government, he said it wouldn’t work because all the bosses wanted their mordida or cut of the action, thus raising prices to untolerable levels.
also see section 502
It might be that we all need to slip into Mexico and set up housekeeping.
We could live large there and still have more say in how the USA is run than we have here
Please stop yelling.
I expect this would be different...selling insurance coverage to average citizens or business enterprises to cover their employees. There’s no reason Mexican agents couldn’t earn commissions as do insurance agents up here. that’s just the usual cost of doing business. If insurance companies couldn’t do well there, they wouldn’t sell...as they don’t in some states here where government mandates have made it difficult to compete with HMO’s and things. Businesses like insurance companies rarely go somewhere they cannot reasonably profit, and states or governments who interfere with profit don’t have good market solutions for things like this.
I suspect this post is BS, but if it’s not, I can almost hear the liberal “logic” behind it. “Since they’re coming here anyway, why wouldn’t we want to improve their health before they get here so they can be more productive “citizens”?” Which of course makes me want to slap anyone who says that kind of crap.
And sometimes, they do more than just think—they start doing some research, and that’s when you can see the light go on.
This is exactly what we need more of. One by one, in our own circles, with offerings of fact minus the ridicule. It works. If nothing else, helping people to shake the blind certainty habit is a gift all it's own aside from politics.
(c) Sense of Congress Regarding Bilateral Partnership on Health Care- It is the sense of Congress that the Government of the United States and the Government of Mexico should enter into a partnership to examine uncompensated and burdensome health care costs incurred by the United States due to legal and illegal immigration, including--
(1) increasing health care access for poor and under served populations in Mexico;
(2) assisting Mexico in increasing its emergency and trauma health care facilities along the border, with emphasis on expanding prenatal care in the United States-Mexico border region;
(3) facilitating the return of stable, incapacitated workers temporarily employed in the United States to Mexico in order to receive extended, long-term care in their home country; and
(4) helping the Government of Mexico to establish a program with the private sector to cover the health care needs of Mexican nationals temporarily employed in the United States.
Source, with thanks to Raybbr. (Emphasis is mine.)
On the other hand, it could actually have some positives. Best I can tell, the studies will be aimed at establishing some way to get the Mexican gov't to pay us for the health care we give its citizens, and some method of sharing communicable disease info in an effort to stop it.
Since Mexico doesn't have much of a problem with Americans coughing TB all over their schools and hospitals, I suspect that the whole "sharing" posture is just diplomatic langage, and we're trying to pry loose the info we need to keep from turning the US border cities into sanitariums.
I read that as trying to get the Mexicans to pony up some part of their enormous share of the costs their citizens incur.
There are a LOT of lifetime Democrats who are as conservative as you or me. When possible, we need to reach out to them. The Democrat party today is a totally different animal than it was in the times before Jimmah Carter.
I think part of it is. But note that it says we will be working in partnership to increase access to medical care. So this isn’t going to be on Mexico’s dime, it’s going to be on ours. The original poster has it right: this is another money pit, supported by John McCain (among others).
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Curious, perhaps we should expect an Obama/McCain ticket this Fall, oops, McCain would have to be the president and Obama VP..one must always respect ones elders. :>
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