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Down with the ship: Dobson to endorse Huckabee at last
Hot Air ^ | 2/7/08 | staff

Posted on 02/07/2008 6:51:12 PM PST by pissant

One final bleat for attention, a finger in the eye of the party that’s about to cross him by nominating someone not to his liking and a last-ditch bid to embarrass McCain by mobilizing evangelicals into giving Huck an upset victory somewhere next week. To fully appreciate this you have to listen to the snippet of audio from Dennis Prager in the update to this post from two days ago. He doesn’t endorse in primaries, he says, because it’s up to the people to separate the gold from the dross. Oh, wait — Mitt Romney’s dropped out? Really? Well, that’s entirely different, then!

The “Christian leaders” versus Maverick. Okay then. Second look at McCain.

James Dobson, one of the nation’s most prominent evangelical Christian leaders, is about to endorse former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, The Associated Press has learned.

Dobson, founder of Colorado Springs, Colo.-based Focus on the Family, talked to the GOP presidential hopeful Thursday and later was to release a statement explaining his choice, said Gary Schneeberger, a spokesman for Dobson.

Huckabee had long sought Dobson’s endorsement, believing he is the best fit to advance Dobson’s conservative, moral worldview.

Exit question: What’s Huckabee’s game here? He’d need to win every remaining primary with something like 60% of the vote to overtake McCain. Is he just banking this as yet another piece of social-con cred for his next run in 2011? Or is it a carrot to wave at McCain to remind him that he’d bring along plenty of red-state voters as part of the ticket?

Update: Actually, try this exit question on for size instead: Third-party run … by Dobson? Why not? His aim all along has been to prove to the GOP how much they need him and evangelicals. What better way to do that after Huck’s out than by getting in and taking a few million members of the base with him?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: christianvote; dobson; elections; evangelicals; fotf; huckabee; mikehuckabee
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LOL. A bit late in coming, I'd say.
1 posted on 02/07/2008 6:51:17 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
The fratricide continues. Hopefully we can rise from the ashes of this complete flameout.
2 posted on 02/07/2008 6:54:33 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: Petronski; SE Mom; xsmommy; perfect_rovian_storm; ejonesie22; papasmurf; jellybean

OH MY GOSH!!!

At least we still have some things like this to anticipate.

BWAHAHAHA!!


3 posted on 02/07/2008 6:55:20 PM PST by Politicalmom (Don't blame me. I voted for FRED!! I'm a refugee from the GOP.)
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To: outofstyle

LOL. We’ll richly deserve what we get.


4 posted on 02/07/2008 6:55:21 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: Politicalmom

Hilarious, isn’t it?


5 posted on 02/07/2008 6:56:26 PM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: pissant
LOL. A bit late in coming, I'd say.

He got it in before the Postlude though. Just in time to say a final prayer and head for the front door to shake hands.

6 posted on 02/07/2008 6:58:57 PM PST by TADSLOS (Estoy Juan McCain y apruebo este mensaje!)
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To: pissant

Huck is trying to get the VP. He just got it.


7 posted on 02/07/2008 6:59:36 PM PST by BGHater ("Ron Paul won every debate!" Rudy Giuliani)
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To: pissant
Dr. Dobson is a nice guy who has done a lot for the conservative movement. I despise McCain almost as much as he does. But other than a few pie-in-the-sky idealism stands (Human Life Amendment, FAIR Tax), I really can’t see where Huckabee differs from McCain (amnesty, global warming, pleasing the enemedia rather than the conservative base).
8 posted on 02/07/2008 7:00:09 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: pissant

Presumption is a sin. This fantastic notion that those whom the World calls “Evangelicals” are “easily commanded” is propped up by the likes of Dr. Dobson. Pastor Huckabee has yet to receive a simple majority of “Evangelicals” who describe themselves as such and who have voted in any state’s Republican Primary.

I can respect those of my fellow FReepers who call this man a teacher, and that he may indeed be a gift to the Church as such, but his motivation to speak on this matter now, so late in this game (when the nomination is more or less settled though more than half of us have had no say in that choice) is, for me, a total mystery.


9 posted on 02/07/2008 7:01:41 PM PST by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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To: pissant

Almost as irrelevant as the article yesterday detailing Paula Poundstone’s thoughts on this year’s election.


10 posted on 02/07/2008 7:03:51 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: pissant

Wow , thank you Mr. Dobson , that’ll save us ....LOL !

Too little , too late ....


11 posted on 02/07/2008 7:04:25 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Let's focus on winning back the House , it's our only hope .)
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To: pissant

If he does that I’ll never send him another cent. He might as well endorse McCain as that liberal hack.

I’ll lose all respect for Dr. Dobson.


12 posted on 02/07/2008 7:06:30 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: pissant
He’d need to win every remaining primary with something like 60% of the vote to overtake McCain.

He would need 83.3% according to Karl Rove.
13 posted on 02/07/2008 7:07:24 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: pissant

I’ve pretty much given up on presidential politics.
I have supported 3 different candidates and consequencially each has been eliminated by the powers that be. After being kicked below the conservative belt I have decided primary elections are bogus. Selection is achieved by a few selected locations with pundit examinations passing off the final sniff tests.

Public participation in the process is minimal. Voting has been rendered meaningless. Half of the country has virtually meaningless primary elections unless they are a DemoRat liberal.

Voting used to be a powerful tool in our republic. Now people are shamed for taking a stand, backing someone they believe in. This diminishes the value of public opinion.
I, for one, will never have remorse for anyone I vote for.
The sad part is that since my vote and opinion don’t count, I am now inclined to just sit this one out and stick with the local people who are still accountable to the people.
National politicians are way above accountability. Lying and distorting their record is shamefully deceptive and that is the way they will lead our nation. A worthless vote elects a worthless politician.


14 posted on 02/07/2008 7:08:58 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Politicalmom

WOW!

BWHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

And they both fall into the oblivion of political irrelevance- richly deserved.


15 posted on 02/07/2008 7:09:15 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: pissant
I thought McCain was the eye poker.

I miss Moe.

16 posted on 02/07/2008 7:10:42 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: SUSSA

“I’ll lose all respect for Dr. Dobson.”

I lost a lot of respect for Dobson when I saw his Christmas Card (sent to FoF members) with a picture of HIMSELF on the cover.


17 posted on 02/07/2008 7:12:47 PM PST by littlehouse36
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To: BGHater

Hope not. He would not do anything for or in the Senate. There is a better choice for Veep out there.


18 posted on 02/07/2008 7:13:07 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: outofstyle

honestly, do people really care at this point? it would have been better if he had at least considered Fred Thompson—who is far more conservative than Huckabee... oh, but Fred Thompson is not a Christian according to Dr. Dobson... he may as well endorse Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton... or Hillary, for that matter... i bet she considers herself a Christian... Huckabee is dishonest... a truth shader... shader of the truth... Dr. Dobson has been a disappointment this election season and so has The HSLDA (The Home School Legal Defense Association)—of which i am a member...


19 posted on 02/07/2008 7:17:56 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: BGHater

-—Huck is trying to get the VP. He just got it.-—

I’m doubly not voting for the two amigos.


20 posted on 02/07/2008 7:18:17 PM PST by claudiustg (Sic Semper Tyrannus)
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To: pissant
Jim Robinson, James Dobson, Duncan Hunter...all have come out for Huckabee and you all are still swinging.

You could only wish that Huckabee beat the old man. Just to shut him up.

21 posted on 02/07/2008 7:18:28 PM PST by Afronaut (RIght now Ron Paul has my vote. He has become the only choice.)
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To: littlehouse36

That was just tacky. But this is inexcusable. If Dobson is so uninformed that he thinks Huckabee is either conservative or honorable, he shouldn’t be making endorsements. If he’s aware of Huckabee’s record and endorsing him any way, he has no ethics.


22 posted on 02/07/2008 7:18:46 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: o_zarkman44
I have supported 3 different candidates and consequencially each has been eliminated by the powers that be

"The Powers that be" are the people like you and me who show up on election day and push the button for John McCain.

There is no "star chamber" using mind control to force people to vote for a particular candidate.

And in this election, there was no single conservative that all the conservatives decided to support.

23 posted on 02/07/2008 7:19:17 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BGHater
Huck is trying to get the VP. He just got it.

ick... i will definitely be staying home if he got the VP slot... why do you think he's the VP pick? it would be a waste of a position...

24 posted on 02/07/2008 7:19:30 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: latina4dubya
South.
Evangelicals.
Orator Skills.
Love of Mexico.
Amnesty.
Socialism.
Huck’s Army.
Eyebrows.
25 posted on 02/07/2008 7:22:19 PM PST by BGHater ("Ron Paul won every debate!" Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Vigilanteman
But other than a few pie-in-the-sky idealism stands (Human Life Amendment, FAIR Tax), I really can’t see where Huckabee differs from McCain (amnesty, global warming, pleasing the enemedia rather than the conservative base).

Bingo. Give that man a cigar!

26 posted on 02/07/2008 7:23:06 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: outofstyle

Speaking of “flameouts” and upcoming October surprises, meet McCain’s probably #1 choice for a running mate:

http://www.ocalapride.com/charlie_crist_at_tonys.htm


27 posted on 02/07/2008 7:26:58 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Romney will get the VP nod if I have anything to do with it.)
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To: Afronaut; Jim Robinson

-—Jim Robinson, James Dobson, Duncan Hunter...all have come out for Huckabee...-—

When, pray tell, did that happen? The last two, I know. The first?


28 posted on 02/07/2008 7:27:51 PM PST by claudiustg (Sic Semper Tyrannus)
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To: pissant

Dobson has done alot of good for this country. Unfortunately, politics isn’t his ‘long suit’ ...


29 posted on 02/07/2008 7:30:17 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: littlehouse36
I lost a lot of respect for Dobson when I saw his Christmas Card (sent to FoF members) with a picture of HIMSELF on the cover.

Beware of the man who builds monuments to himself.
30 posted on 02/07/2008 7:31:47 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I sent money to Fred. Ended up voting for Romney on tuesday. Never considered McCain. I am considering sitting out this presidential election. Where is that construed as a vote for McCain?

Oh yeah, we were told a vote for so and so was really a vote for McCain. So essentially everything has already been settled before 5% of the states even cast a vote. Based on trends and pundits on 24/7 mathematically eliminating certain candidates on one percent shortcomings.

Our election has been hijacked. Only because we allowed it by listening to the pundits and political hacks with the smile of deception.


31 posted on 02/07/2008 7:33:42 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: BGHater

Good call. I am really disappointed with this election cycle but I feel there is alot of World posturing going on with the debate this time.


32 posted on 02/07/2008 7:34:44 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: claudiustg

You have to play the cards your dealt. If not the other side never has to show their hand.


33 posted on 02/07/2008 7:36:16 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: pissant

pathetic.


34 posted on 02/07/2008 7:37:24 PM PST by americanophile
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To: pissant

Back in March, it was Dobson who said Fred Thompson was not a Christian.

Fred didn’t even announce his candidacy until September.

Sorry, Dr. D., but you dissed the best man who could have provided true conservative leadership.


35 posted on 02/07/2008 7:37:37 PM PST by freedom4me (No compromise w/ the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact w/ unrepentant wrong. --Churchill)
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To: claudiustg

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962819/posts


36 posted on 02/07/2008 7:38:52 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: pissant

He should have endorsed Hunter. For that, I’m disappointed in him.


37 posted on 02/07/2008 7:39:01 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: pissant

If there was ever a time when Dobson made a pragmatic choice, I need you to remind me. His life’s work is making the best the enemy of the better.


38 posted on 02/07/2008 7:40:14 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: pissant

Does anyone seriously think Huckabee will attack McCain with any force? Please! That man is in McCain’s back pocket, and I’ll enjoy seeing his political career go down the drain with the hothead from Arizona after November.


39 posted on 02/07/2008 7:42:39 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: o_zarkman44

You want some cheese with that whine? Buck up there. You sound like a liberal.


40 posted on 02/07/2008 7:44:48 PM PST by goldfinch
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To: outofstyle

Fratricide is le mot juste. By the time it comes down to one Republican vs, one Democrat, the Republican will be mortally wounded and bleeding to death.


41 posted on 02/07/2008 7:45:01 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: latina4dubya
Huckabee is dishonest... a truth shader... shader of the truth.

I'm a Huckabee supporter (which means I'm a sucker for "identity politics" I guess). As a fellow Homeschooler, could I ask you to cite some examples?

Thanks

42 posted on 02/07/2008 7:47:45 PM PST by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: ReignOfError
If there was ever a time when Dobson made a pragmatic choice, I need you to remind me.

When he leaked his email about Fred to the media. That was a pretty pragmatic choice.

43 posted on 02/07/2008 7:49:22 PM PST by the808bass
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To: pissant
Screw Dobson, the Huckster and their ROBOT supporters.

I don't want their theocratic worldview in office, or in the GOP.

If ANY good thing comes of the McCain candidacy, it will be to prove the GOP doesn't cotton to this silly stranglehold the so-called "religious right" believes it has on the party.

There are FAR MORE religious men and women who think the Huckster and Dobson are both dunces and a danger to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

44 posted on 02/07/2008 7:56:38 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Theophilus
Source

Huckabee said that he's always been for the HLA and that he's never supported the dreaded federalist solution. That is a lie. A lie which he used to great advantage in attacking other candidates, saying he'd never changed his position on pro-life issues. As recently as 2006, he said it should be left to the states. And later said he'd never had that position.

We could do this all night. That's just one issue.

45 posted on 02/07/2008 7:57:22 PM PST by the808bass
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To: pissant; All

“Actually, try this exit question on for size instead: Third-party run … by Dobson? Why not? His aim all along has been to prove to the GOP how much they need him and evangelicals. What better way to do that after Huck’s out than by getting in and taking a few million members of the base with him?”

as large a block as evangelical and/or social conservatives make, in the gop, they do not, on their own, make a registered-voter national majority, nor would they, on their own, diminish the dems that much; and their attempt at pretending otherwise will not drag fiscal, national security, judicial and other conservatives out of the gop to join them

they joined the gop, from 1964 till now, to add their voice to that of other conservatives, to long-term mutual, even if not constantly mutual, advantage

i hope most evangelicals and fundamentalist christians will realize that, and start getting out now to work for who they want in the next congress, let mcpain fight alone, and provide the best congressional opposition we can to mcpain/hillbama hydra-headed potus


46 posted on 02/07/2008 7:58:34 PM PST by Wuli
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To: pissant

A dollar short and a day late!


47 posted on 02/07/2008 8:11:42 PM PST by Doofer (Carl Cameron Is A Weasel)
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To: pissant
Thanks Dr. Dobson

Huckabee is not ashamed of Jesus Christ.

Mark 8:38
Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Oh Lord, glorify yourself in the primaries of: LA, VA, KS, WI, OH, TX, MS, PA, IN, NC, KY, ID.

LORD you give, and you take away; blessed be the name of the LORD. Thank you for Mike Huckabee's perseverance.

Romans 9:17
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

48 posted on 02/07/2008 8:13:56 PM PST by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: Theophilus
"Huckabee is dishonest... a truth shader... shader of the truth. I'm a Huckabee supporter (which means I'm a sucker for "identity politics" I guess). As a fellow Homeschooler, could I ask you to cite some examples?"

How about checking this out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962819/posts?q=1&;page=1001 Posts 1004 & 1005

Come back & tell us what you think.

49 posted on 02/07/2008 8:17:11 PM PST by LADY J
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To: Theophilus
Thank you for Mike Huckabee's perseverance.

It is kind of like the tv show "Survivor". Huckabee has proven that he is a tough competitor and does indeed persevere. One doesn't really know how this is yet to unfold. The old adage, "showing up is 90% of the job" should be continued going forward. Huckabee should just stay on task and let those smooth stones do their work.

50 posted on 02/07/2008 8:27:30 PM PST by LordBridey
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