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Fifth Cable Cut, Iran Loses Net Connectivity
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| 2/06/2008
| CmdrTaco
Posted on 02/06/2008 8:09:13 AM PST by sionnsar
You may have noticed a number of stories recently about undersea cables getting cut around the world. Apparently the total is now up to 5, but the scariest part of this is that Iran is now offline. You can also read Schneier's comments on this coincidence.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coincidence; internet; iran; justacoincidence; telecom
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February 05, 2008
Fourth Undersea Cable Failure in Middle East
The first two affected India, Pakistan, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, and Bahrain. The third one is between the UAE and Oman. The fourth one connected Qatar and the UAE. This one may not have been cut, but taken offline due to power issues.
The first three have been blamed on ships' anchors, but there is some dispute about that. And that's two in the Mediterranean and two in the Persian Gulf.
There have been no official reports of malice to me, but it's an awfully big coincidence. The fact that Iran has lost Internet connectivity only makes this weirder.
EDITED TO ADD (2/5): The International Herald Tribune has more. And a comment below questions whether Iran being offline has anything to do with this.
EDITED TO ADD (2/5): A fifth cut? What the hell is going on out there?
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:09:16 AM PST
by
sionnsar
To: nuconvert
2
posted on
02/06/2008 8:09:50 AM PST
by
sionnsar
(trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: sionnsar
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:11:14 AM PST
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
To: sionnsar
Yeah, good question. And, is it the good guys or the bad guys. I wouldn’t put it past Iran to cut itself off from the rest of the world in order to accomplish some horrific act that they don’t want reported. I can also see that cutting them off might aid the West, depending on “what’s up.” But which one of these, or even something else, I can’t even guess.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:11:30 AM PST
by
MizSterious
(Deport all the illegals to sanctuary cities.)
To: sionnsar
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action. And FIVE!?!
The only question is, is this Al Quida, Or the NSA?
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:11:38 AM PST
by
pangenesis
(Legalize freedom - vote Ron Paul!)
To: sionnsar
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:11:38 AM PST
by
Doctor Raoul
(Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
To: sionnsar
Testing to see if I still have net capability.
And to make sure I'm logged in.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:11:50 AM PST
by
Allegra
(A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
To: Doctor Raoul
Well Rove has to have some hobby in his retirement years...
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:12:57 AM PST
by
PennsylvaniaMom
(I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. Jane Austen.)
To: Doctor Raoul
To: Allegra
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:13:28 AM PST
by
sionnsar
(trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: Allegra; Cindy
Glad to see you are still online.
Ping, Cindy.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:14:06 AM PST
by
fanfan
("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
To: sionnsar
Too many unislamic ideas have been leaking into Iran via the Internet. Mohammed didn’t have the web, why should Iranians?
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:14:29 AM PST
by
Fresh Wind
(Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
To: MizSterious
Iran doesn’t have the capability to do this.This is being done on the ocean floor at a depth of 200 feet,without anyone seeing who is doing it.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:14:29 AM PST
by
quack
To: MizSterious
i guess daily stonings and continued crimes against women arent bad enuff to warrant a cable cut.
To: Allegra
Testing...Well, are you logged in? :)
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:15:02 AM PST
by
marinamuffy
("..pacifism ensures that cruelty will prevail on earth." - Dennis Prager)
To: sionnsar
La Plume de ma tante est sur la table.
REPEAT: La Plume de ma tante est sur la table.
The Eagle flies at midnight.
REPEAT: The Eagle flies at midnight.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:16:32 AM PST
by
chs68
To: sionnsar
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:17:14 AM PST
by
GOP Poet
To: sionnsar
It’s been off and on in Iran. The regime has been able to update their websites
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:18:22 AM PST
by
nuconvert
(There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
To: quack
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:18:32 AM PST
by
Fresh Wind
(Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
To: pangenesis
You’d think the NSA would just tap in.
To: Allegra
Glad to know you are still connected.
I wish I could figure out what the heck is going on.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:19:51 AM PST
by
Bahbah
To: sionnsar
Seems like a good predecessor to an attack. No immediate images of baby milk factories in rubble.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:20:11 AM PST
by
elfman2
("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
To: PennsylvaniaMom
Well Rove has to have some hobby in his retirement years... Hold Up! I thought he was busy with his weather machine. lol. Now that you mention it, he does have a lot more spare time on his hands . . . that rascally rabbit.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:20:15 AM PST
by
GOP Poet
To: sionnsar
They should have bought a Mac.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:20:22 AM PST
by
billorites
(Freepo ergo sum)
To: Tijeras_Slim
Youd think the NSA would just tap in.They used to tap into Soviet undersea cables. I doubt they've abandoned such practices altogether.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:21:05 AM PST
by
squidly
To: pangenesis
My money is on NSA, they are probably installing some data mining technology on the lines. If we capture the info there, and offshore the analysis to say, Diego Garcia, why would we need to consult Congress or get warrants?
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:21:10 AM PST
by
milwguy
(........)
To: pangenesis
The only question is, is this Al Quida, Or the NSA? I'd have to say that it's probably an Islamic fundamentalist ploy. If I had to guess, I'd pin the blame on the Iranians. The internet is absolute murder for them -- there's no way for them to control the flow of information from the infidels. It reminds me a lot of the story a couple of years back, about Iran cracking down on satellite dishes.
Now ... as to "why now?" That's a pretty question. I'm thinking it's an internal thing: that Ahneedajihad is about ready to go Taleban on the Iranian people.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:21:33 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: Fresh Wind
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:21:52 AM PST
by
Fresh Wind
(Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
To: sionnsar
A friend in Bahrain has had no problems with the internet so far.
To: quack

Don't f*** with me!
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:23:05 AM PST
by
Wally_Kalbacken
(Seldom right but never in doubt)
To: Fresh Wind
I think they’ve got about half a dozen subs.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:23:06 AM PST
by
squidly
To: Tijeras_Slim
People on Belmont Club are claiming that cutting a cable is a good mechanism for concealing a tap. Once repaired, new baseline measurements of its state would include the tap.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:23:20 AM PST
by
elfman2
("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
To: pangenesis; quack
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:23:34 AM PST
by
RDTF
To: sionnsar
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:23:42 AM PST
by
sourcery
(Electile Disfunction: The inability to get excited about any of the available candidates)
To: Tijeras_Slim
Tapping packet switched networks is a lot easier if you channel everything into one cable. Otherwise part of the message may be transmitted on one cable and the rest on another, requiring you to tap all the cables to be sure you can get anything.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:24:09 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
To: elfman2
Loose lips sink ships, everyone.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:24:16 AM PST
by
TheThirdRuffian
(Don't blame me; I will write in Thompson.)
To: sionnsar; fanfan; marinamuffy
The first two affected India, Pakistan, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, and Bahrain. The third one is between the UAE and Oman. The fourth one connected Qatar and the UAE. This one may not have been cut, but taken offline due to power issues. Only one Gulf country seems to be unaffected for the most part.
Coincidence?
I think not.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:24:40 AM PST
by
Allegra
(A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
To: chs68
I know nothing, NUUUUTHHINNNNG!
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:24:44 AM PST
by
garyhope
(It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
To: Fresh Wind
A sub that can go undetected in waters patrolled by US and UK ships?
Do you think they would cut the lines,which then forces a re-route of their traffic to the US and UK?All while leaving Iraq and Israel completely unaffected.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:25:44 AM PST
by
quack
To: sionnsar
This is FUD, pure and simple.
Try the link to the government of Iran. it works.
Try the traffic report that says they've lost connectivity. it shows ONE FREAKING SERVER that is not responding, the one that ITR happens to check.
Give it a rest, folks.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:26:14 AM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: Fresh Wind
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:26:48 AM PST
by
garyhope
(It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
To: pangenesis
Iran has submarines, as well ...
In fact, lots of folks have submarines.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:27:02 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: milwguy
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:27:21 AM PST
by
Humidston
(NO vote on McDole!!!!)
To: Izzy Dunne
that doesn’t mean it isn’t being re-routed
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:27:53 AM PST
by
RDTF
To: sionnsar
Oh come on. Everyone knows it’s Israel trying to isolate the bad guys right before the big strike!
Seriously, there are some good comments on that Schneier link. I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions at thise point.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:28:11 AM PST
by
saganite
(Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
To: Izzy Dunne
that doesn’t mean it isn’t being re-routed
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:28:21 AM PST
by
RDTF
To: Bahbah
I wish I could figure out what the heck is going on. Yeah, we'e all trying to guess whether this is friendly, unfriendly or just some bizarre "epidemic."
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:31:32 AM PST
by
Allegra
(A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
To: r9etb
What do you mean, no way ? The Iranian gov’t controls/owns the Iranian telco companies. Just like the Chinese, I’m sure they filter whatever they want to and deny connectivity whenever they want.
The only thing they might not totally control is satellite, and that would not be available to the average Iranian in any case.
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:34:16 AM PST
by
cinives
(On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
To: Allegra
It seems more likely it’s either the first or second- 5 cuts simply can’t be a coincidence. SO bizarre, isn’t it?
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:34:26 AM PST
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: sionnsar
...the scariest part of this is that Iran is now offline And we should be scared because......?
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posted on
02/06/2008 8:34:52 AM PST
by
theDentist
(Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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