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Wilderness Under Threat as Visitors Stay Indoors
Guardian Unlimited ^ | February 5, 2008 | David Adam

Posted on 02/05/2008 6:04:26 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: gracesdad

Land grabbers annoy me to no end. And they’re 100% on the Global Warming Boondoggle Bandwagon, too.

There are 35 million acres in Wisconsin, alone. Less than 1 million of those acres are developed in any way...but that’s not good enough. They want more land preserved. No growth for communities, no jobs, no progress, etc. (It’s not just the NC, it’s many smaller EnviroWacko groups in WI and other states as well.)

Here’s their (NC) new ideas for making cash off of GW to grab more land “for the common good.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/science/earth/29habi.html?ex=1359262800&en=da444e8cb18c33f5&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

It’s turning conservation on its head,” said Bill Stanley, who directs the global climate change initiative at the Nature Conservancy. He said the organization has a goal to protect 10 percent of major habitat types — like grasslands, forests and freshwater systems — by 2015.

“We are not sure exactly how to treat this yet,” Mr. Stanley said. “Areas that we preserved as grasslands are going to become forests. Does this mean we are going to have to have more than enough forest and less grassland than we had before? Or does it mean we should fight it — try to keep the forest from coming into those grasslands? Or should we try to find new areas that are least likely to change, that seem to be the least susceptible to change, and prioritize those areas?”

As Dr. Hamilton put it, “Our whole strategy is going to have to shift.”


21 posted on 02/05/2008 6:29:15 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Sawdring

Sorry - you can’t shoot in a national park.
TR never saw that coming.


22 posted on 02/05/2008 6:30:32 AM PST by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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Seems they still can't make up their mind. Just under this story is...

Great apes face threat from germs carried by eco-tourists
Eco-holidays raise vital funds for the protection of wildlife, but nature-lovers carry human viruses that have been proved fatal for animals…

23 posted on 02/05/2008 6:32:03 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Sawdring
A great book, and we are heeded that way, except for the intelligent robots, ( they have been replaced with imbecilic drones or “DEMOCRATS” as we like to call them.)
24 posted on 02/05/2008 6:32:14 AM PST by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: All
Time to cut wages and lay off personnel.

I am sure they have done that since attendance is down.

25 posted on 02/05/2008 6:33:21 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

bump


26 posted on 02/05/2008 6:34:36 AM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
people are falling out of love with the natural world

Not me, I started Bow Hunting this past year and I'm addicted!

Can't wait for Turkey season!

27 posted on 02/05/2008 6:35:35 AM PST by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Who in their right mind would hike from Newfound Gap to Charlies Bunion in the Smokies when you could spend the time walking the streets of Gatlinburgh or the malls of Pigeon Forge?


28 posted on 02/05/2008 6:37:41 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Waverunner

If you shoot a bear in the woods and nobody else hears the sound, did it really happen?


29 posted on 02/05/2008 6:39:34 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I don’t care about their position on global warming but they are NOT land grabbers. They don’t force anybody to give up land. It’s all voluntary. If I want my land to go into a trust and not be developed, why the heck should you care? Isn’t it my choice? Or do you believe I should be forced to commit my land to development?


30 posted on 02/05/2008 6:40:16 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: doodad

....more stamina (ie I am older......

Ever hiked at Cumberland Island?

I’m working my old bones up for a trip there in May. It’s flat as a board..... no up! Miles and miles of trails.


31 posted on 02/05/2008 6:40:26 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Slapshot68

Oh my God, what a relief. ANWAR is now safe from the hoardes of tourist who were flocking there to take in the pristine wilderness.


32 posted on 02/05/2008 6:41:11 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: TYVets

“Time to cut wages and lay off personnel.
I am sure they have done that since attendance is down.”

All national parks did that a long time ago. They’ve been understaffed (for the number of visitors) for years now.


33 posted on 02/05/2008 6:41:46 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: denydenydeny
Let me get this straight. Environmentalists demand “roadless” national parks and now they are upset that people won’t visit them. Do I have this right?

Government is filled with people who tell you what you can't do. What else do you do with a hack but fill out an application for permission to do something. America needs an enema.

34 posted on 02/05/2008 6:42:22 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Why go to a park when I can just pop in my nature DVD and enjoy scenic vistas from the comfort of my sofa? I don’t have to worry about ticks, poison ivy, or rabid wildlife. I can even throw my empty chip bags on the floor!


35 posted on 02/05/2008 6:47:07 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

36 posted on 02/05/2008 6:52:29 AM PST by Gritty (Ecochondriacs figure this'd be a pretty nice planet if we didn't live here - Mark Steyn)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

On a related note, my mom has a senior pass to all national parks. Cost her $10. It allows her to go to the beach at the National Park on the Assateague Seashore here in Maryland. The Park Service recently got particularly strict about entry into the park by making everyone wait in the same line for park entry (they used to let the passholders go through a different gate). Apparently, people got onto the National Seashore without paying because of lax entry policies.

The moral of the story is...Mexicans can stream across the border with impunity, but my 63 year old mother gets the shakedown trying to get into a National Park she’s paid to use.

lol


37 posted on 02/05/2008 6:53:10 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: denydenydeny

That and they expect us to go out into the wild without firearms to protect ourselves.


38 posted on 02/05/2008 6:57:58 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: bert
"Who in their right mind would hike from Newfound Gap to Charlies Bunion in the Smokies when you could spend the time walking the streets of Gatlinburgh or the malls of Pigeon Forge?"

More my view, but a lot of people can't see the point of the camp/hike with nature itself being the attraction. Yes viewing it on the larger and clearer home screens of today is a nice experience but nothing can compare to the early morning smells of a dew drenched semi-wilderness.

39 posted on 02/05/2008 6:59:18 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (Fund A Red Meat Eatery Regularly)
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To: denydenydeny
Let me get this straight. Environmentalists demand “roadless” national parks and now they are upset that people won’t visit them. Do I have this right?

"Wilderness" areas really annoy me. No trail maintenance allowed, no blazes on the trees, no bicycles allowed. A tree falls across the trail and you can't even get out a chain saw and clear it out of the way. Like keeping up some nice trails and letting people enjoy them on bicycles is going to adversely affect anything. Oh, and they let horseback riding no problem. Have you ever compared the damage a horse does to a trail vs. a bicycle? (yeah, so maybe I like mountain biking)

40 posted on 02/05/2008 7:06:17 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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