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Device automatically slows speeders' cars[Canada]
CanWest News Service ^ | 01 Feb 2008 | Elise Stolte

Posted on 02/02/2008 5:31:47 PM PST by BGHater

EDMONTON -- Chronic speeders could find their cars automatically slowing down when they try to pass the posted speed limit if Paul Boase has his way.

The Transport Canada researcher has been road-testing a device that combines a global positioning system and a speed map with a way to override the car's manual controls. He presented his findings at a traffic conference Thursday in Edmonton.

"The technology has the ability of just saying, okay the posted speed limit is 50, so we'll let you go 55, that's it," Boase said.

He tested the technology on 10 volunteers in the Ottawa area. In that test, the device was fixed so drivers found the gas pedal difficult -- though not impossible -- to press if they were over the limit.

The technology worked but speed maps would have to be developed for all roads before the device could be implemented nationally.

Theoretically, the device could come with every new vehicle, but the first application would likely be for habitual speeders, or drivers whose speeding causes a serious accident, he said.

A judge could suggest the offender apply for the device to be installed as part of a sentence, similar to the way drunk drivers can get an Ignition Interlock device now. Interlock requires drivers to pass a breath test before their car will start.

Ultimately, Boase hopes it can help change people's attitude toward speeding.

"What you basically find is for drivers who need (the device) the most, they like them the least," Boase said. "That's why habitual offenders might be the right place to start."

Transport Canada also has tested a device that gives a verbal warning when the driver speeds. They've held focus groups on why people speed and tested the effectiveness of several commercials that warn young drivers about the dangers of speeding.

Liz Owens, director of policy research and public education for Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation, said the department isn't considering the speed devices now, but would certainly be interested in the research.

Criminal lawyer Brian Hurley said the Interlock program for chronic drunk drivers has been helpful for some of his clients.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: canada; cars; speeders; speeding
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1 posted on 02/02/2008 5:31:48 PM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater
but the first application would likely be for habitual speeders

But not the last. The last will be that everyone is forced to have them.

2 posted on 02/02/2008 5:33:20 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: BGHater

Just wait for my lawsuit when it fails and limits my car to 5 MPH on the freeway.


4 posted on 02/02/2008 5:33:30 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: BGHater

They are saying

ALL YOUR GAS PEDAL ARE BELONG TO US


5 posted on 02/02/2008 5:33:36 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: sionnsar

0 is a powerful number,,


6 posted on 02/02/2008 5:35:56 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (I'm Southron,,,and I Vote..,,,,.A Saint I Ain't)
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To: BGHater

Future premier of Alberta?

7 posted on 02/02/2008 5:38:23 PM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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To: Slump Tester

It would be ironic if he would cash in the chips while trying to speed around a slow truck....


8 posted on 02/02/2008 5:39:27 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: BGHater
Big Brother lovers of Big Government.

Recall that during the Carter Administration, the head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), Joan Claybrook seriously proposed that cars exceeding the government’s generous speed limit of 55 MPH would automatically have their horns start to honk and the headlights would flash.

It never ends even if the players change over time.

9 posted on 02/02/2008 5:39:59 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Slump Tester

smile when you say that.


10 posted on 02/02/2008 5:40:20 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: BGHater

saving the world one rule at a time


11 posted on 02/02/2008 5:42:51 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BGHater

This is an example of why politicians should be neutered


12 posted on 02/02/2008 5:43:12 PM PST by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: BGHater

The jerk probably drives 10 mph under the speed limit... in the left lane.


13 posted on 02/02/2008 5:45:00 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: BGHater
This device makes me slow down. I saw one that pulled over a speeder today. It was sweet looking, zero chrome and a light bar on the sun visor only.

Only place I don't want to see it is in my rear view mirror.

14 posted on 02/02/2008 5:47:32 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Whatever happened to No Neck Joe?)
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To: BGHater

Yeah, great idea. You’re passing someone, they speed up a bit as you do, you see a car is coming the other way toward you, you step on the gas to finish passing and get back over to the right, and all of a sudden you lose control of your car.

Great idea.


15 posted on 02/02/2008 5:48:25 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BGHater

Governor Corzine of New Jersey should hire this transport manager to service the NJ State Police automobiles. You know, just to make sure the Governor obeys the speed limits.


16 posted on 02/02/2008 5:58:08 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Cicero; BGHater

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why all of the leaders of the free world are all demented morons.


17 posted on 02/02/2008 5:58:12 PM PST by GingisK
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To: BGHater
Well, this is a dangerous, stupid, and overly intrusive idea. Therefore, you can be sure that liberals here in the U.S. will be pushing for it soon.

They've held focus groups on why people speed

And when they figured out the obvious answer, which is that speed limits are set purely for revenue generation and are unrelated to safety, they undoubtedly made sure the results would never be seen by the public.

18 posted on 02/02/2008 5:58:49 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: theBuckwheat
Big Brother lovers of Big Government

Ya know, every 3 years I attend a 6 hour 'course' which upon completion grants me a 10% insurance reduction or 3 point violation reduction. Since I've never had any 'points' put on my license (knock on wood), I attend this thing for the 10% insurance reduction.

Almost every time that I've seen this course, they run a bunch of numbers which state that driving 40mph in a 30mph zone only gains a millisecond or two. Which is far from the truth, have these 'instructors' actually driven on congested urban roads before? Sometimes that extra 10mph will get ya thru a known long red light intersection while the light is still green, sometimes it will get you thru a railroad crossing before the gates come down and there is a 5 minute delay while the train does its thing on the train tracks.

Just food for thought, thats all

19 posted on 02/02/2008 6:07:16 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Turbopilot
We talking about the speed limit, not hte concept nor the technology. It's already in place ~ for example, most folks find it very difficult to exceed 120 MPH under any conditions.

Tightening up the standard a bit is the only issue.

20 posted on 02/02/2008 6:14:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mr_Moonlight
Taking risks with trains is remarkably stupid.

I hope you said that only for rhetorical noise value.

In fact, if I have any doubts I sometimes stop at the track, put my car in Park, get out and walk closer to see and hear if there's a "hidden train" coming.

21 posted on 02/02/2008 6:16:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: BGHater

If the speed limit is 65, why do we need cars able to double that in this day of having to suck oil out of the Middle East? Slap a governor on ALL vehicles at 75. Save oil, save money, save lives.


22 posted on 02/02/2008 6:22:39 PM PST by halfright (Cheney/Bolton 2008 is a better fit.......)
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To: GingisK

“I can’t figure out why all of the leaders of the free world are all demented morons.”

It is because they think that us peasants are all demented morons.


23 posted on 02/02/2008 6:27:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Cicero

Right!

And another scenario — you’re being tailgated by a Mac truck, doing 70, then suddenly your car slows down 15 mph. Bye-bye!

My solution is this: drive my crotch-rocket a lot more often.


24 posted on 02/02/2008 6:27:58 PM PST by zipper
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To: theBuckwheat
I remember that.

P.S. Are you "the Buckwheat" or just using that name?

25 posted on 02/02/2008 6:30:37 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I was just thinking about all the lawsuits from women in labor!


26 posted on 02/02/2008 6:32:23 PM PST by tpanther
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To: BGHater

“Criminal lawyer Brian Hurley said the Interlock program for chronic drunk drivers has been helpful for some of his clients.”.....Jeezzz! So would taking the keys away and impounding the car!


27 posted on 02/02/2008 6:32:27 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: BGHater

Well, always keep your wire clippers handy.


28 posted on 02/02/2008 6:32:59 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Goofus hits the computer's power button to turn it off, Gallant shuts down properly)
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To: muawiyah
In fact, if I have any doubts I sometimes stop at the track, put my car in Park, get out and walk closer to see and hear if there's a "hidden train" coming.

Just remember when looking for hidden trains :
The Whistles go WHOO WHOO!!!!

29 posted on 02/02/2008 6:35:41 PM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: sionnsar
Just wait for my lawsuit when it fails and limits my car to 5 MPH on the freeway.

We know that's going to happen. We can also expect some typos in the speed maps. ...then there are service roads or driving on the margins of the road.

30 posted on 02/02/2008 6:41:19 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cicero
Yeah, great idea. You’re passing someone, they speed up a bit as you do, you see a car is coming the other way toward you, you step on the gas to finish passing and get back over to the right, and all of a sudden you lose control of your car. Great idea.

OR, you are pulling away from a traffic light and you see you are about to be rear-ended by a truck going full speed. You floor it, but the little computer says, NO, you must die!

Great idea.

31 posted on 02/02/2008 6:43:40 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: BGHater

A good time to quote PJ O’Rourke: “Liberalism is just communism sold by the drink.”


32 posted on 02/02/2008 6:43:50 PM PST by relictele
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To: BGHater
I can think of a few times this might be inconvenient.


33 posted on 02/02/2008 6:45:57 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: GingisK

It’s because intelligent people have better things to do with their lives than muck around in politics.

I think that anyone who wants to be a politician should automatically be disqualified from office. If we want intelligent, sane politicians we are going to have to draft them from public life.

They won’t volunteer.


34 posted on 02/02/2008 6:46:46 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
Almost every time that I've seen this course, they run a bunch of numbers which state that driving 40mph in a 30mph zone only gains a millisecond or two.

hehe. I've seen that class. They don't like it when you point out the math for driving 75 mph for 10 hours, vs. driving 50mph for 15 hours, and pointing out that until they put those little ridges along ths sides of the road that the leading cause of fatal accidents on the NY State Thruway (and the main highways of several other states) - after drunk driving - was falling asleep while driving.

35 posted on 02/02/2008 6:48:01 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Right Wing Assault
OR, you are pulling away from a traffic light and you see you are about to be rear-ended by a truck going full speed. You floor it, but the little computer says, NO, you must die!

A friend of mine had exactly that accident. He was sitting, waiting for on-coming traffic to pass to make a left-turn, and a guy came up behind him and didn't slow down or change into the other lane, so when it became obvious that the other driver wasn't going to stop, he floored the accellerator. The other guy started braking after the point where he'd been stopped.

36 posted on 02/02/2008 6:52:45 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: mylife
saving the world one rule at a time

That's inspiring. Thank you.

37 posted on 02/02/2008 6:54:16 PM PST by secretagent (When cooking frogs - don't bring to a boil too rapidly.)
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To: BGHater

This could give new meaning to the “blue screen of death”.


38 posted on 02/02/2008 6:55:32 PM PST by Mojave
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To: halfright

No thanks.


39 posted on 02/02/2008 6:56:47 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: muawiyah
Taking risks with trains is remarkably stupid.

Agreed.

I hope you said that only for rhetorical noise value.

No rhetoric involved whatsoever. If you'd interpreted the post carefully than it would point out that the extra 10mph "prevented" having to get stuck at the RR crossing or the 'long red light'. I'm not talking about 'racing the train to the crossing', I'm talking about getting thru it *before* the red crossing lights flash and the gates start coming down ... big difference.

In fact, if I have any doubts I sometimes stop at the track, put my car in Park, get out and walk closer to see and hear if there's a "hidden train" coming.

Obviously we live in different parts of the country. There are no "hidden trains" around here, just the trains that run on a regular schedule from NYC to my locality, back and forth. With all due respect to a fellow FReeper, if I did what you just said you do at a RR crossing, then there would be hell to pay from fellow motorists and also the Cops, yes the Cops too! "Move along, wise guy" they'd say. No joke.

40 posted on 02/02/2008 6:57:37 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: commish
Sometimes in the vicinity of a manufacturing facility out in wide open country they'll build several sidings that run from the factory to the road you are on.

They'll back those cars right up to the road, leaving you a blind spot ~ and no signal light.

I used to visit many printing plants out in wide open country. This is a common problem.

I did not get hit by a train traveling in my direction behind the box cars on the sidings.

Now I did get hit by a train once ~ in a Willys Jeep Stationwagon that was sliding down an icy hill into its path.

There's no room in my life for a second train collision.

41 posted on 02/02/2008 6:58:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: secretagent

Anytime ;0)


42 posted on 02/02/2008 6:58:09 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BGHater
This system will never be instituted.

If it were, it would radically reduce speeding ticket revenue. The point of speed limit enforcement is not to make people drive at safe speeds, but to turn officers into profit centers. This system would scuttle the whole deal, and will therefore never happen.

43 posted on 02/02/2008 6:58:45 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Mojave

One can only hope the software is not designed by Microsoft or there will be dead cars everywhere … waiting for the latest upgrade.


44 posted on 02/02/2008 7:03:37 PM PST by doc1019
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To: halfright
Slap a governor on ALL vehicles at 75. Save oil, save money, save lives.

Tata's for all!

45 posted on 02/02/2008 7:05:16 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All

Since these people are so fond of European ideas, let’s try this out on the Autobahn first and see how it works out.


46 posted on 02/02/2008 7:11:57 PM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: muawiyah

I’m afraid I don’t understand what you’re trying to say, nor what your reference to 120MPH implies.


47 posted on 02/02/2008 7:16:38 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: BGHater

Big Brudda knows what’s best for you. Always and forever.


48 posted on 02/02/2008 7:24:46 PM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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To: mylife

Just what I want....A nice pair of Tata’s in my garage!


49 posted on 02/02/2008 7:53:56 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: doc1019

If the cars had Microsoft software, you’d just have to: shut all the windows; turn the car off (by hitting the “Start” button); turn the car back on (hit the “Start” button again); and then open all the windows, and you’re set to go.


50 posted on 02/02/2008 7:57:12 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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