This sounds like another banana story.
Posted on 02/02/2008 2:00:07 PM PST by secretagent
JUNEAU, Alaska, Feb. 2 (UPI) -- Alaska is one of 12 U.S. states considering making salvia, a potent natural hallucinogen which is a species of sage, illegal.
The hallucinogenic salvia divinorum is not banned by the federal Controlled Substances Act and is only illegal in six states, The Anchorage (Alaska) Daily News reported Saturday.
Republican state Sen. Gene Therriault, who said the substance's effects are dangerously powerful and similar to LSD, has been the heading the charge to ban it in Alaska
A user said the drug made her and her boyfriend "melt to the wall," the newspaper said.
"The jury's still out because there's not been a lot of study. But whenever there's uncertainty with a substance of this potency, there's a need to prevent injuries," said Therriault's legislative aide, Dave Stancliff.
States largely haven’t bothered with salvia divinorum because the process for ingesting it is so complicated and little used.
Parsley, Rosemary and Thyme were unavailable for comment.
So these states are creating yet another black market for criminals to profit from? How very wise...
A user said the drug made her and her boyfriend “melt to the wall,” the newspaper said.
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Wait one minute- were they in an igloo????
* Salvia Divinorum is 100% legal in all countries except Australia.
* Salvia Divinorum contains no nicotine, is not addictive non-habit forming.
* Salvia Divinorum is the worlds most powerful entheogenic herb, it is not a hallucinogen. The Salvia experience is very real, completely safe and natural.
A misleading Salvia website posted above. While not illegal yet by the fedgov, six states in the US have banned it, as per the UPI article.
Agree. Most illegal drugs should be legalized and regulated like tobacco and alchohol.
It’s ridiculous in this day and age that we continue to support criminals and terrorists by keeping drugs illegal.
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No easy-to-consume "distilled Salvia" party pill yet?
Is it illegal in New Mexico? If so, the people who bought our house might be in trouble. My wife planted that stuff all over our back yard. Pretty flowers.
See Mojave's comment - it may be too difficult to process into a popular consumer item.
First they came for the pot...
Then they came for the sage...
That just leaves the toad-tummy-gummers to be regulated.
I will never understand the concept of ‘banning’ a plant. I have poison berries in the woods near my house, maybe they better come ‘ban’ them quick!! Before someone gets hurt.
A story echoed through the news media that the inner lining of a banana could be dried and smoked for a great high. A certain subset of our populace literally "went bananas" and wasted their time and money on the produce only to discover it didn't work.
At that same time, Donovan had a song out called Mellow Yellow, with the embedded lyric line:
Electrical banana
Is gonna be a sudden craze
Electrical banana
Is bound to be the very next phase
They call it mellow yellow
A user said the drug made her and her boyfriend “melt to the wall,” the newspaper said.
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They might have possibly been, but then again Global Warming has caused Alaska to become a subtropic resort location, so maybe not. /sarcasm
Shall I bring a lasuit against the city for growing sage on city property?
The hairy reid species is the worst. They ought to focus on eradicating that one first.
Sure. When in doubt, ban it. The government will always be there to save people from themselves!
No easy-to-consume “distilled Salvia” party pill yet?
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No, but you can bet when they do, children will party all night with them and be exposed to something they never thought of until the Feds outlawed it, 60 minutes does a special on it and shippers in South America figure how to sell on the internet.
That just leaves the toad-tummy-gummers to be regulated.
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You better HUSH and leave me and my toad belly licking alone!!!
That salvia looks suspiciously like coleus.
For some reason this reminds me of one of the big drug hoaxes of the 1960’s.
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Try “Reefer Madness” in the 20’s. I admit to having indulged in the marijuana madness on occasion in my youth and never not one time, ever, did I dance on a moving train while disrobing and jiggling for the boys.
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This sounds like another banana story.
Either let’s arrest children for spinning around to get dizzy or recognize that altering ones consciousness is as human as are hunger and sex.
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If that’s the case, my Granny would be in jail for contributing to the deliquency of a minor. Maybe she is at fault for my indulgence later in life. You know that swirly barstool I laid on my stomach and spun and spun and spun should have been outlawed YEARS ago.
But momentum to ban the herb in the US is building. Largely driven by the suicide of a 17-year-old Delaware youth who experimented with it, salvia has been banned in two states this year, and in at least three more, legislation to make its possession or sale a crime is pending. Previously, the herb had been banned in Louisiana and Missouri. This year, Delaware and Tennessee have already outlawed it, and similar efforts are afoot in Alaska, New Jersey, and Texas.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/438/salviabans.shtml
No mention of New Mexico.
Old Mexico, however...
Hailing from the state of Oaxaca, salvia has been used as a sacred plant for generations by the Indians of the remote Sierra Mazateca. For Mazatec shaman-healers, salvia produces a state of “divine inebriation.” It is used in ceremonial settings when healers feel they need to dive deep into the spirit world to cure their patients.
I agree.
No trains in your area? ;-)
Donovan also said:
“Girl,you drank a lot of ‘drink me’but you ain’t in wonderland
I want to be there to greet you,girl,when your tripping ship touches sand”
...not one time, ever, did I dance on a moving train while disrobing and jiggling for the boys.
No trains in your area? ;-)
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Oh we have train-a-plenty here, and I may have even thought of dancing on a train, but if I did, I either never gained the momentum to actually go find one and/or don’t remember wanting to later. hehe
He fired it up in a pipe and choked, coughed, etc. for about 15 minutes. It looked almost like a scene from a sitcom.
Somewhere, someone had to be laughing up his sleeve for creating that banana myth and the "hippie" culture swallowing the whole thing hook, line and sinker.
I would seriously question the wisdom of using the word sage and Harry Reid’s name in the same sentence. He has done nothing to support that view and everything contrary to it, just ask Rush ! ! ! ROFLMAO
We spend horrendous amounts of money every year to control its spread, having long since given up on eradicating it.
Someone suggested back in the 60’s that we should spread the word that dried and smoked it was a better high than the best weed. The idea was that following a couple Spring Breaks there wouldn’t be a single plant left in the state!
My description of the plant and it’s name(s) is not scientifically accurate I’m sure, but it’s close.
A member of the mint family related to the flowering sages enjoyed by gardeners, salvia divinorum is a southern Mexican herb that when smoked properly can induce a psychedelic experience something akin to an express acid trip. It comes on like a fast-forward freight train; within a few seconds of inhaling, a full-blown psychedelic experience is underway, and within five minutes, it’s all over. And as a legal product under federal law, it is sold in thousands of retail outlets in the United States as well as being easily available over the Internet.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/438/salviabans.shtml
Your hot alcohol delivery system does sound unpleasant, and the drug itself doesn't seem like a "fun drug":
While salvia is not "deadly," as some overheated news accounts have stated, neither is it a casual party drug. According to Daniel Siebert, proprietor of the Sage Wisdom web site, "salvia is not 'fun' in the way that alcohol or cannabis can be. If you try to party with salvia, you will probably not have a good experience".
We have a devil of a problem with a plant called hydrilla, or water lily, here in Florida. They are native to Africa and some high society dame from Jacksonville thought they were beautiful and brought some back and put them in the St. Johns river. The rest is history.
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Yeah, welcome to our world of Kudzu here in Georgia.
He fired it up in a pipe and choked, coughed, etc. for about 15 minutes. It looked almost like a scene from a sitcom.
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It’s amazing the lengths people will go to get high. Like my toadbellylicking thing I’m going through right now. ;)
I hadn’t heard of the smokable delivery, but there’s plenty I don’t know. The description of it sounds like smokable DMT, which comes from reed canary grass, not sage.
It’s hard to keep up, isn’t it? Gummints making some of God’s plants illegal and others protected species, and then different gummints making different rules. I wish the gummint would ban crabgrass from growing in my backyard, and arrest it otherwise!
Are you sure?
I could have sworn that was you I saw.
don't do it, you'll croak.
You sound like a concerned citizen. Form a neighborhood committee right away!
Just reading about it a few months ago scared the hell out of me, much less taking it.
Another non-native plant we have lots of trouble with is the Brazilian Pepper. Has little black and red, very hard, berries. We’ve spent 50 plus years trying to get a handle on it. No luck.
They were at the Scarborough Fair.
Hey, I'm your neighbor (Panama City) and our main freshwater source, Deerpoint Lake is suffering a hydrilla problem also.
They use sterilized white amur grass carp to keep up with it.
The fish gobble up all the produce in sight, grow to be quite large, but totally inedible, and they don't reproduce.
* The preceding sentence also describes Rosie O'Donnell.
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