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New cable cut compounds net woes (Third cut cable since Wednesday)
BBC World News ^ | 02/02/2008

Posted on 02/02/2008 9:52:15 AM PST by devane617

New cable cut compounds net woes A submarine cable in the Middle East has been snapped, adding to global net problems caused by breaks in two lines under the Mediterranean on Wednesday. The Falcon cable, owned by a firm which operates another damaged cable, led to a "critical" telecom breakdown, according to one local official.

The cause of the latest break has not been confirmed but a repair ship has been deployed, said owner Flag Telecom.

The earlier break disrupted service in Egypt, the Middle East and India.

"The situation is critical for us in terms of congestion," Omar Sultan, chief executive of Dubai's ISP DU, told The Associated Press, following the most recent break.

Wednesday's incident caused disruption to 70% of the nationwide internet network in Egypt on Wednesday, while India suffered up to 60% disruption.

Flag Telecom said a repair ship was expected to arrive at the site of the first break - 8.3km from Alexandria in Egypt - on 5 February, with repair work expected to take a week.

A repair ship deployed to the second break - 56km from Dubai - was expected to arrive at the site in the "next few days", the firm said.

Web returns

The first cable - the Fiber-Optic Link Around the Globe (FLAG) - was cut at 0800 on 30 January, the firm said.

INSIDE A SUBMARINE CABLE 1 Polyethylene cover 2,4 Stranded steel armour wires 3,5 Tar-soaked nylon yarn 6 Polycarbonate insulator 7 Copper sheath 8 Protective core 9 Optical fibres Not to scale

A second cable thought to lie alongside it - SEA-ME-WE 4, or the South East Asia-Middle East-West Europe 4 cable - was also split.

FLAG is a 28,000km (17,400 mile) long submarine communications cable that links Australia and Japan with Europe via India and the Middle East.

SEA-ME-WE 4 is a submarine cable linking South East Asia to Europe via the Indian subcontinent and the Middle East.

The two cable cuts meant that the only cable in service connecting Europe to the Middle East via Egypt was the older Sea-M-We 3 system, according to research firm TeleGeography.

The firm said the cuts reduced the amount of available capacity on the stretch of network between India and Europe by 75% percent.

As a result, carriers in Egypt and the Middle East re-routed their European traffic around the globe, through South East Asia and across the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.

The cause of the break has still not been confirmed. The third break is unlikely to disrupt commerce in the region as many business are closed on Fridays.

Initial reports suggested that it could have been snapped by a ship's anchor.

Internet service providers said they expected India's to be back to about 80% of its usual speed by the end of Friday.

In Egypt Minister of Communications and Information Technology Tarek Kamil said he expected to be at the same capacity within two days.

"However, it's not before ten days until the internet service returns to its normal performance," Kamil told the state Al-Ahram newspaper.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: europe; india; internet; israel; italy; mediterranean; middleeast; sicily; tech; telecom
OK, it happens again. These cables carry lots of data and it very difficult to repair. Wonder what is up, or down.
1 posted on 02/02/2008 9:52:17 AM PST by devane617
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To: devane617

Considering most of US companies customer service comes from India, I am amazed that we have not seen problems.


2 posted on 02/02/2008 9:54:10 AM PST by devane617 (I WILL NOT HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE !!!!)
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To: devane617

Coincidence of course. /s


3 posted on 02/02/2008 9:55:35 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: devane617
This gives a whole new meaning to the term "hacking".


4 posted on 02/02/2008 9:59:18 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: devane617

Did they ever catch that murderous dolphin?

Could it be a crime spree or a diversion?


5 posted on 02/02/2008 10:06:39 AM PST by George from New England (A tax cap should work both ways)
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To: capt. norm
Yep, I agree. Wonder how you cut a cable buried deep under sea? It would take a sophisticated device to find the cable, and an equally sophisticated device to sever it.
6 posted on 02/02/2008 10:07:34 AM PST by devane617 (I WILL NOT HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE !!!!)
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To: George from New England

These cables are very well protected with a thick coating. I doubt marine life could cut them, and three in three days...I doubt it.


7 posted on 02/02/2008 10:08:54 AM PST by devane617 (I WILL NOT HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE !!!!)
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To: devane617

These cables should be listed as one of the wonders of the world. It is amazing how the digital signals have evolved from the first underseas telegraph cables.


8 posted on 02/02/2008 10:09:57 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: devane617

I read somewhere that Iran presently has no internet or phone lines. Can anyone confirm this?


9 posted on 02/02/2008 10:13:17 AM PST by maclay
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To: devane617
Under Water...

Cables Snapping...

Could It Be...








10 posted on 02/02/2008 10:14:09 AM PST by Jagermonster (Not a N00B, just wanted a new screenname.)
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To: devane617
"OOPS!"


11 posted on 02/02/2008 10:15:20 AM PST by Dumpster Baby (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: devane617

We live in interesting times.


12 posted on 02/02/2008 10:17:18 AM PST by B4Ranch ((Don't forget to say a prayer for our soldiers out there in harm's way. ))
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To: maclay

That will increase the pucker factor.


13 posted on 02/02/2008 10:22:00 AM PST by devane617 (I WILL NOT HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE !!!!)
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To: devane617
Three cables cut in three days? This reminds me of the moment the second plane hit the towers.
14 posted on 02/02/2008 10:24:03 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: devane617
Considering most of US companies customer service comes from India, I am amazed that we have not seen problems.
 

India Averts Internet Meltdown

Failsafe plans, including an alternate network of cables in the Pacific Ocean, prove the resilience of the country's broadband infrastructure

When news broke Jan. 31 that an undersea fiber-optic cable owned by India's Reliance Communications had been accidentally sliced by a ship's anchor in Egypt, people feared a possible replay of 2006. That's when an earthquake in Taiwan disrupted Internet traffic in East Asia for nearly two weeks. India, where the Internet is the lifeblood of the outsourcing industry, was considered particularly vulnerable.

Happily for Reliance (which did not respond to phone calls), and for Indian outsourcing giants Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) , Infosys (INFY), Wipro (WIT), and Satyam Computer Services, which use such undersea fiber-optic cables, no serious problems occurred. Neither, it appears, have the global operations of multinational tech players like IBM (IBM) skipped a beat. True, some of India's Internet cafes saw connection speeds slow dramatically, so the time needed to connect to Google increased 60 times—from two seconds to two minutes—but overall the economic impact of the accident has proven minimal for India.

It could have been much, much worse. According to the Internet Service Providers Assn. of India, nearly half of the 25 gigabits of bandwidth India uses relies on cables, of which 60% snake under the Atlantic Ocean. The rest is routed through the Pacific.

Internet Traffic Priority System

Instead, the disruptions gave India's outsourcers the opportunity to prove to their clients how well they're prepared for such emergencies. As soon as the problem with the Reliance cable became known, traffic was rerouted through the alternative network of cables running under the Pacific Ocean. "There are redundancies built into the system. There are multiple pipes, so if one breaks, others work," says Pradipta Bagchi, a spokesman for Tata Consultancy Services.

Bagchi explains the pecking order for Internet traffic priority. Top of the heap is voice—so that calls to Aunt Mathilda in Missouri or cousin Vijay in Bangalore are unaffected. Then come international private leased lines—networks that banks such as JPMorgan (JPM) or tech service providers such as IBM (IBM), TCS, and Infosys use to connect to clients and their other locations across the world. "These links get high priority and get switched automatically to another line," Bagchi says.

For this privilege, the larger companies pay double or triple the cost to telecom providers such as Reliance, AT&T (ATT) , VSNL, and Bharti Airtel. They also have contracts with multiple providers, so if one fails, the other kicks in. So on Jan. 31, as Reliance announced its problems, rival providers picked up the traffic.

Operations Functioning Seamlessly

However, smaller back-office outsourcers probably didn't fare as well during the Internet outage. Because these companies compete on price, they are unlikely to be able to afford the kind of contingency plans TCS has with Internet service providers. But even their problems are fairly limited. "Though there is a marginally slower access to Internet, this has not disrupted or affected our operations. Our IT team is working closely with our service providers to ensure that operations continue to function seamlessly," says P.V. Kannan, founder and chief executive of 24/7 Customer, a smaller Bangalore outsourcer.

A day later, says Rajesh Chharia, president of the Internet Service Providers Assn. of India, almost 80% of the bandwidth has been restored, as companies made the automatic shift to alternate providers. "The service providers have released more capacity on the Pacific route," he says.

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/feb2008/gb2008021_621653.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_global+business

 

15 posted on 02/02/2008 10:24:06 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Dumpster Baby; devane617; capt. norm
Naaa...


16 posted on 02/02/2008 10:26:32 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: devane617

Yup. Iran appears to be in the technological dark ages:

Google Search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iran+cable+cut


17 posted on 02/02/2008 10:29:31 AM PST by maclay
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To: maclay

Wonder if I should get the popcorn ready? Finished the Calgon already.


18 posted on 02/02/2008 10:31:46 AM PST by devane617 (I WILL NOT HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE !!!!)
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To: devane617

“Blind Man’s Bluff”
Sherry Sontag


19 posted on 02/02/2008 10:53:35 AM PST by xrmusn
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To: devane617

A couple threads on this.

Something very odd is up. Only question is which side is doing it.


20 posted on 02/02/2008 11:10:29 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
One bizarre thory I'm tinkering with is the Russians, trying to blame it on the US. Let's not forget the recent underreported story that the Russians will not take the nuclear option off of the table to defend themselves or their allies.
21 posted on 02/02/2008 11:15:04 AM PST by maclay
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To: maclay
Addendum: Russian Nuclear option not off the table (Notes preemptive attacks possible)
22 posted on 02/02/2008 11:21:44 AM PST by maclay
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To: redgolum; Southack
A discussion from yesterday here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962060/posts

I think Southack has a fair idea on why these breaks are happening, but this is a public thread and we are not the NYT. Then again, its probably just Muslim fishermen trying to snag some copper wire to sell.

23 posted on 02/02/2008 11:37:14 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: devane617
Initial reports suggested that it could have been snapped by a ship's anchor.

That happens. I remember in 1978 when we were being relieved from the MED at Rota, Spain we fouled our anchor with a cable. The EOD guys had to go down and cut us loose. I'm not sure what it was likely a communications cable though as satellite wasn't quite up to speed than.

24 posted on 02/02/2008 11:44:56 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Jagermonster

25 posted on 02/02/2008 12:19:05 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! AAAALLWAYS!)
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To: maclay
The United States has never taken the nuclear option off the table to defend itself or its allies. So what's your point?
26 posted on 02/02/2008 12:41:25 PM PST by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: Cheburashka
The United States has never taken the nuclear option off the table to defend itself or its allies. So what's your point?

Point is Russia is upping it's rhetoric in a veiled threat to attack US forces to defend Iran. Not sure I've heard them talk about preemptive nuke strikes before. That's all.

27 posted on 02/02/2008 12:54:48 PM PST by maclay
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To: maclay

My own civilian read of Russia’s announcement, was an attempt to intimidate Poland.

Then again, I’m a civilian. But that’s what it seemed to me.


28 posted on 02/02/2008 12:58:55 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Wouldn’t Russia nuking Poland be geographically akin to Washington nuking Canada? Even as civillian myself, this does not seem reasonable.


29 posted on 02/02/2008 1:06:42 PM PST by maclay
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To: maclay

ABM = “perceived threat” = target.

Seems like the veiled threat.


30 posted on 02/02/2008 1:08:13 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (So-called free trade advocates = "China Firsters")
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To: maclay
Point is Russia is upping it’s rhetoric in a veiled threat to attack US forces to defend Iran. Not sure I’ve heard them talk about preemptive nuke strikes before. That’s all.

I don’t recall that the Russians or the Soviets before them ever renounced first use either, so this is hardly an escalation. What it appears to be is FUD. I expect the Russians will act in their national interest. And nothing else. They have no treaty obligations with the Iranians.

Note that they they did nothing to help Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis. And they had a far closer long-term relationship with Iraq than they have with Iran.

31 posted on 02/02/2008 2:47:52 PM PST by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: devane617

btt


32 posted on 02/02/2008 6:09:24 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: devane617

It’s Cloverfield


33 posted on 02/02/2008 9:18:58 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: maclay

We said the same thing a few days before.

Nothing new, both Russia (when they were the USSR) and the US had the same policy in the bad old days. But the timing is interesting.

Which is why we probably won’t do anything with Iran. Russia will jump in to protect them.


34 posted on 02/03/2008 6:20:16 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

“They said it would work”!


35 posted on 02/03/2008 6:29:35 AM PST by colonialhk (Harry and Nancy are our best moron allies)
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To: redgolum; All

CONSPIRACY KOOKS:

“US Crashes Internet In Middle East After Saudi Threat, Russia Responds With Air Forces”
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1067.htm

LOL


36 posted on 02/03/2008 11:06:12 AM PST by maclay (America First - The rest of the world comes second)
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To: cva66snipe
That happens.

But not three times in the same week. It's like being struck by lightning three times in one week.

37 posted on 02/03/2008 11:35:10 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona

Four now. Sounds like somebody is slightly irked or is wanting the business this is disrupting. Hum I wonder how the USA to China links are working?


38 posted on 02/03/2008 12:15:38 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: redgolum

Probably an extortion scheme.


39 posted on 02/03/2008 12:27:06 PM PST by Royal Wulff
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