Posted on 02/01/2008 9:53:24 AM PST by neverdem
Why are the prohibited individuals loose?
And is there much connection between white collar felonies and violent assaults after the felony conviction?
Some states allow a face-to-face private sale. It is like putting your shotgun up for sale in the newspaper classified ads and then having Jim Bob come over and give you cash for it. No background check of any sort is required by law. It is legal here in Nebraska and if done at a gun show would be referred to by some as “the gun show loophole.”
Private homeowners are not a business.
Private colleges are, and if the state has determined that concealed carry permits are legal, no entity doing business with the general public should be permitted to overrrule state law.
There are reasonable exceptions, but these should be set forth in the state statute and students at a private college have as much right to protect themselves as anyone else using the services of a private business.
“How about we require those under heavy psych medication to be institutionalized at home under ankle bracelets?
Then we won’t have them shooting up college campuses using guns they procured on their own.”
That only works if the ankle bracelet is affixed to a five ton concrete block by means of half inch proof coil chain. Short of that, we’d still have to rely on the local law enforcement agency to go round up the offender when the proximity alarm goes off at HQ... that track record ain’t so great.
I see two “F’s” a “D” and a “C-” as our presidential choices now, as far as the 2A is concerned.
“Permanent civilian disarmament goes into effect next year”
Shouldn’t that read:
“The new regime’s ATTEMPT at permanent civilian disarmament will go into effect next year.”
“Molon labe!”
It's pretty clear what's going on here.
Narrow down individual rights to sell guns by requiring ALL firearms sales to have a background check. As individual's cannot access the NICS system for background checks, it has to be done by a third party - those with a BATF sanctioned FFL who will be paid a fee to fill out the BATF paperwork, which they must keep on file for 20 years or so. Then, tax, sue, and squeeze by further regulations those remaining with FFL's until they are driven out of business. After that is accomplished, no guns can legally change hands.
"...Turn 'em all in, America!" - Diane Feinstein
It's the old Liberal rope-a-dope - "We're just trying to protect the children and make America safe!"...
...traitors, scum, and totalitarians - every one of them!
Ping back to P8triot’s post.
This is one of the longest-running scams in the MSM and Brady Bunch arsenal.
There is no “gun show loophole”, period. All “dealers” in firearms must, by federal law, be licensed. All dealers must use the background check system, wherever they do business — be that at a store, a gun show, wherever.
HOWEVER (and here’s the lie), private individuals may, in many states, legally sell a firearm to another private party, without using the background check system. What they want to ban is private-party transactions, including those few that occur at gun shows.
Some states (including my own home state of California) have already banned private party transactions: you have to go through a licensed FFL, who will hold the firearm for the requsite waiting period, submit the transaction through the NCIS, and, if it’s a pistol, register the pistol with the state.
Since this strikes many people as a significant infringment of our liberties, the Brady bunch are at pains to cast their efforts as being directed against a nefarious group of “unlicensed dealers”, ragther than at you wanting to sell a deer rifle to your brother in law, for instance.
No checks are needed for sales made in the parking lot. I picked up a .237 Roberts in excellent condition that way.
The anti-gunners in the Virginia legislature have thought of that. A bunch of them have proposed bills on the so called “gun show loophole”. One of them had language that included the parking lot at a gun show in its restrictions.
Dark days ahead, methinks.
Why should the laws be TIGHTER at a gun show, than at a gun dealer’s store? I can sell a gun to a buddy at a gun dealer’s store, with no background check...or at home, for that matter. WHY should I have to do a background check, just because it is at a gun show?
Just another incremental step to slow down sales and transfers of all guns. A substantial number of people take guns to a gun show to sell or trade and subsequently upgrade to something better or new.
This will slow down the turnover of guns thereby affecting sales of new guns.
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