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Hate Speech Cited in Immigration Debate
AP via SFGate ^ | 1/31/8 | SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 01/31/2008 1:53:46 PM PST by SmithL

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- A national Latino group said Thursday it is fighting back against what it considers to be "hate speech" that has emerged from the debate over immigration.

National Council of La Raza President Janet Murguia announced plans to pressure television network executives and candidates seeking their parties' presidential nominations to clamp down on such remarks.

The group launched a Web site to counter the speech, www.wecanstopthehate.org, with clips of what it considers offensive comments on television as well as a tracking of hate crimes.

"Hate groups and extremists have taken over the immigration debate in an unprecedented wave of hate," Murguia said. Although some comments could be considered free speech, "there is a line that sometimes can be crossed when it comes to free speech," she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; aliens; americanintifada; aztecsupremacists; illegals; immigrantlist; invaders; invasion; laraza; reconquista; therace; thoughtpolice
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First, they invade our Country, then they attack our right to Free Speech.
1 posted on 01/31/2008 1:53:46 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

2 posted on 01/31/2008 1:55:27 PM PST by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: SmithL

But after they get their shills nominated by both parties. Piper will have to be paid before long.


3 posted on 01/31/2008 1:55:44 PM PST by Baladas
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To: XeniaSt

Hey, can I have one of those?


4 posted on 01/31/2008 1:56:35 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: SmithL

Bunch of wusses. They are anti-American...they want to take away part of our soveriegn country...they have no allegiance to our nation or the principles upon which it rests. They are trying to use these liberal, useful-idiot, PC laws to get their way when what La Raza should get is the boot.


5 posted on 01/31/2008 1:57:14 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: truthkeeper
Hey, can I have one of those?

Feel free to copy it

6 posted on 01/31/2008 1:58:17 PM PST by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: SmithL

The only hate speech comes from the left.


7 posted on 01/31/2008 1:59:40 PM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW , Vote Hunter in the Primary)
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To: SmithL

If we are such bad, hateful persons, why do these foreigners want to come here so badly?


8 posted on 01/31/2008 2:02:21 PM PST by sourcery (Electile Disfunction: The inability to get excited about any of the available candidates)
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To: SmithL

LA RAZA - the name itself is hate speech.


9 posted on 01/31/2008 2:02:48 PM PST by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

I was about to post the same thing!


10 posted on 01/31/2008 2:03:48 PM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: SmithL

I work in Human Resources, and I see the First Amendment discarded in favor of political correctness ALL THE TIME. I get so angry I’ve become physically ill. Finally gave my retirement notice early this month ‘cause I can’t take it any more.


11 posted on 01/31/2008 2:04:01 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Jeff Head

Hey, what a coincidence! C.A.I.R. is doing the same thing. They both must be represented by the same speech police at the ACLU.

Go, Constitution, Go!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 01/31/2008 2:04:11 PM PST by 308am
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To: SmithL
La Raza IS a hate group. But Socialists lie and attack their political enemies by silencing the opposition.
13 posted on 01/31/2008 2:04:31 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: SmithL

My fear is what will happen when the average Legal American Citizen stops talking and starts acting.


14 posted on 01/31/2008 2:05:25 PM PST by seemoAR
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To: XeniaSt

That’s awesome


15 posted on 01/31/2008 2:05:40 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Jeff Head

They stand a much better chance of Their South “rising” again and fighting the battles of old than the so called Southern Pride “racists”.

“The Race”, indeed.


16 posted on 01/31/2008 2:05:58 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: SmithL
La Raza means The Race. Now who are the ones who brought race into the equation first just by how they wish to designate themselves?
17 posted on 01/31/2008 2:06:06 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: SmithL

Apparently, they don’t like us criticizing Juan McCain.


18 posted on 01/31/2008 2:06:18 PM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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To: SmithL
Some of the remarks the Hispanic group identified included referring to immigrants as an "army of invaders" or an "invading force," associating immigrants with animals, accusing immigrants of bringing crime and diseases like leprosy to the U.S., and purveying a conspiracy theory that Latinos are trying to take back parts of the United States once ruled by Mexico.

These types of comments would be suppressed as "hate speech?"

20+ million foreign nationals physically entering our country against our laws is not an invasion?

The illegals do not have higher crime rates?

There is no concern about people with TB and other diseases who sneak into the country bypassing normal checkpoints?

There is no "reconquista" sentiment among any of these foreign nationals?

And these are not even legitimate matters for debate and discussion?

19 posted on 01/31/2008 2:08:00 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SmithL

I hate La Raza! I hate illegals!

Am I in trouble now?


20 posted on 01/31/2008 2:08:00 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: seemoAR
My fear is what will happen when the average Legal American Citizen stops talking and starts acting.

What do you fear might happen? Some of the most anti-illegal folks that I know are legal immigrants who have become naturalized citizens.

21 posted on 01/31/2008 2:09:58 PM PST by Bob
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To: SmithL

We should start www.wecanstoptheillegalaliens.com.


22 posted on 01/31/2008 2:10:05 PM PST by Tex Pete
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To: SmithL
First, they invade our Country, then they attack our right to Free Speech

They're exploiting our weakness.

PC is weakness - and that makes us vulnerable to aggressive, acquisitive groups (i.e., "nations") who realize that it can be exploited.

So they simply walk into the country, plant their flag firmly, and anyone who criticizes gets called names. After which our own government goes berserk and does anything to silence those pointing out the obvious: that a foreign invasion is taking place.

Pretty amazing, huh? You can become the dominant political force in another country and end up taking its wealth and power (vote yourself your very own nuclear stockpile) simply by calling people names.

Viva La Raza indeed. Gotta give them credit for seeing the way.

But invasion is not a civil right, no matter how much they may insist that it is.

23 posted on 01/31/2008 2:10:39 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Resolute Conservative

No more than hating the KKK or Aryan Nazis makes you a hater.


24 posted on 01/31/2008 2:10:43 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Regulator
That’s awesome

Please share it with everyone you know.

25 posted on 01/31/2008 2:11:04 PM PST by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: SmithL

Free speech must be vigorous to remain free. If it’s too tough a concept for someone to accept they should select a different country and just go there as soon as possible.


26 posted on 01/31/2008 2:11:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Some of the remarks the Hispanic group identified included referring to immigrants as an "army of invaders"

No one is allowed to speak the truth.

It's part of the strategy to consummate the takeover.

27 posted on 01/31/2008 2:12:02 PM PST by Regulator
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To: XeniaSt
Please share it with everyone you know

Will Do!

28 posted on 01/31/2008 2:13:00 PM PST by Regulator
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To: SmithL
"there is a line that sometimes can be crossed when it comes to free speech," she said.

And who draws that line, Ms. Murguia...your socialist, racist, La Raza organization?

Over my corpse...
29 posted on 01/31/2008 2:14:04 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: SmithL
Janet from the racist group La Raza talking about hate speech. I have nothing but contempt for the invading dogs of reconquista. I want them identified, isolated, all their assets seized and then send them barefoot back to their cesspool origins. Is that “hateful” enough for the racist witch, Janet?
30 posted on 01/31/2008 2:15:04 PM PST by isrul
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To: Regulator

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html


31 posted on 01/31/2008 2:15:32 PM PST by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

The Mexican government provides aid to those trying to cross illegally and has used their military in some border crossings.

That is an invasion.

There is no screening for disease and there are increases in polio rates among other diseases. That is spreading disease.

Do they “bring” crime to the US? Druglords do. They are taking their turf war to border towns, again with military vehicles and weaponry. There are repeat offenders in sexual assault and DWI cases who seem to freely cross the border to repeat their offenses.

And they’ve made it quite clear with banners that say “go back to Europe” that they are staking a claim on the turf.


32 posted on 01/31/2008 2:17:08 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Bob

I am uneasy because this may be the start of a war inside our borders. I have seen what side our Government will be supporting.


33 posted on 01/31/2008 2:17:27 PM PST by seemoAR
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To: XeniaSt

First they SNEAK in and overrun our country. Now they want to tell us what to say. And McCain wants to let them CHEAT their way to citizenship. La Raza has no understanding whatsoever of the Bill of Rights and the rule of law.


34 posted on 01/31/2008 2:18:35 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: isrul
They are advocating seditious overthrow of US rule. We fought a “Civil War” over the issue.

States cannot secede. Counties WITHIN states cannot break away either.

35 posted on 01/31/2008 2:18:35 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: SmithL

They have a couple of videos up at Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGgKBY61X0Y&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MifXIVRRm_0&feature=related


36 posted on 01/31/2008 2:18:52 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: SmithL

The media needs to ask if La Raza would be so supporting of illegal immigration if the majority of illegals were coming from Africa, the Caribbean and Asia.


37 posted on 01/31/2008 2:19:09 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: SmithL

The media needs to ask if La Raza would be so supporting of illegal immigration if the majority of illegals were coming from Africa, the Caribbean and Asia.


38 posted on 01/31/2008 2:19:30 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: seemoAR

The Shadow Government may be supporting a foreign power but the US military must support the USA.


39 posted on 01/31/2008 2:19:40 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: bamahead

Even if you legally enter Mexico, you’d be prohibited from protesting because you are a foreigner. They truly do not understand “free speech” and believe that they can shout down the opposition in America.


40 posted on 01/31/2008 2:20:52 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Political correctness will be the death of this great nation. It angers me that so many great, rugged individualists sacrificed so much for us, and this generation of spoiled, baby-boomer brats is throwing it away.


41 posted on 01/31/2008 2:22:11 PM PST by Samwise (Mister, we could use a man like Ronald Reagan again.)
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To: weegee
And they’ve made it quite clear with banners that say “go back to Europe” that they are staking a claim on the turf

And that's the real point. They are a nation, and they claim the land. In Spaniard society, nothing is more important.

The humiliation of 1848 still looms large in their minds.

Many times I have been lectured by hispanic friends that "you gonna speak Spanish" someday. It wasn't a friendly comment - it was a threat and a statement of fact: once we re-take our dirt, then we will dictate terms.

This is not the rhetoric of "immigrants", of any flavor.

It is the statement of a conquering invader.

42 posted on 01/31/2008 2:22:18 PM PST by Regulator
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"a conspiracy theory that Latinos are trying to take back parts of the United States once ruled by Mexico"

MEChA is an Hispanic separatist organization... who romanticize Mexican claims to the "lost Territories" of the Southwestern United States -- a Chicano country called Aztlan. In its national constitution, MEChA calls for self-determination by its members to liberate Aztlan... "to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlán."

43 posted on 01/31/2008 2:22:38 PM PST by sanchmo
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To: Regulator

Why do they love Spain so much? And why do they lay claim to land up to Colorado?


44 posted on 01/31/2008 2:23:19 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: weegee
No speech can be too hateful when directed at these dogs. It a more civilized nation they would be concerned with more than words. The populace would rise up and defend the homeland from colonists.
45 posted on 01/31/2008 2:26:25 PM PST by isrul
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To: potlatch; SmithL




46 posted on 01/31/2008 2:26:43 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: weegee
Why do they love Spain so much?

It's not pro-Spain or pro-Mexico or pro-La-Raza as it is anti-American (esp. traditional, white America).
47 posted on 01/31/2008 2:29:06 PM PST by ruination
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Why do they love Spain so much? And why do they lay claim to land up to Colorado?

One or two of the southern counties in Colorado cover
Spanish Land Grant country from the King of Spain

Spanish - Mexican Land Grants:

However the Colorado Constitution was written in English, Spanish and German.

Because most of the farmers only spoke only German.

They continued to speak only German until WWI
when it became politically incorrect to speak German.


48 posted on 01/31/2008 2:38:39 PM PST by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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Why do they love Spain so much?

Stockholm syndrome, I guess....the descendants of La Malinche have to have something to hold on to...

And why do they lay claim to land up to Colorado?

It really goes much further than that...

49 posted on 01/31/2008 2:38:59 PM PST by Regulator
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To: ruination

They speak the language of the conquerers, honor their territorial claim, but somehow see themselves as not being of European origin as though to do so would somehow be “bad”.


50 posted on 01/31/2008 2:42:33 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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