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McCain attracts the GOP establishment
New York Times via Houston Chronicle ^ | Jan. 27, 2008, 11:11PM | JOHN M. BRODER

Posted on 01/27/2008 11:55:33 PM PST by counterpunch

Edited on 01/28/2008 12:55:59 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

LADY LAKE, FLA. — Is John McCain, maverick flyboy of the Republican Party, becoming the candidate of the GOP establishment?

McCain, who has delighted in sticking his thumb in the eye of mainstream Republicans throughout his political career, is now accumulating a base of support among party regulars who see him as the strongest general election candidate in the remaining Republican field.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: establishment; keatingfive; mccain
Republicans are waking up to the fact that McCain is our Hillary, Romney is our Obama, and Huckabee is our Edwards. Just like the Democrat race, the GOP race has come down to the broken Washington establishment candidate vs. the outsider advocating change, with a southern populist spoiler who doesn’t know when to drop out thrown in.

Look at McCain’s list of endorsements. It reads like a Who’s Who of everything that is wrong in Washington. McCain is the broken Washington Establishment’s candidate. He has all the endorsements from the pork-barrel Senate, the open-borders governors, and the New York Times and liberal establishment MSM.

1 posted on 01/27/2008 11:55:34 PM PST by counterpunch
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To: counterpunch

First to say Screw John McCain.

I’d vote for the guy over any dim in the general, but not in the primary


2 posted on 01/27/2008 11:58:53 PM PST by SShultz460 (If peace is the answer; it must be a stupid question.)
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To: counterpunch

McCain attracts flies. Like all rinos.

Regards


3 posted on 01/27/2008 11:59:01 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: ARE SOLE

All the people who are screwing up Washington and the GOP have endorsed John McCain as one of their own.


5 posted on 01/28/2008 12:00:52 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: counterpunch

I’m glad McCain got in this race. Now the world can see what a liberal he is.


6 posted on 01/28/2008 12:01:50 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: counterpunch
The Times just can't get enough of that McCain excitement! Why, if you didn't know better, you might suspect they're trying to make the GOP pick a candidate easily beaten by Hillary! or Obama.
7 posted on 01/28/2008 12:02:01 AM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: counterpunch

“The McCain Fix” is in make no doubt about it.

Vote Romney in Florida on Tuesday.


8 posted on 01/28/2008 12:05:14 AM PST by Nextrush (MCCAIN IS THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE, STOP HIM AT ALL COSTS)
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To: JMack

McCain has the OPEN-BORDERS ESTABLISHMENT vote locked up in the GOP primary.
But no one will vote for McCain in November when they can vote for Hillary instead and get the real thing.


9 posted on 01/28/2008 12:06:26 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: SShultz460

I will probably stay home if McCain is the nominee. At least the pubs in Congress may fight crazy leftist ideas coming from Hillary or Obama. McCain will present the same ideas, (amnesty, “carbon taxes”, etc.) and the pubs will go along in the “spirit of bipartisanship”.


10 posted on 01/28/2008 12:06:26 AM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: counterpunch
Republicans are waking up to the fact that McCain is our Hillary, Romney is our Obama, and Huckabee is our Edwards.

Id say that's pretty accurate.

No one with any real leadership qualities on either side of the fence.

11 posted on 01/28/2008 12:06:39 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor
No one with any real leadership qualities on either side of the fence.

I think Romney's demonstrated some decent leadership. Certainly he's demonstrated a thick skin with the way every other candidate has been attacking him.

Giuliani has leadership qualifications too, but his liberalism more than cancels that out.
12 posted on 01/28/2008 12:10:23 AM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: counterpunch

“Is John McCain, maverick flyboy of the Republican Party, becoming the candidate of the GOP establishment? “

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, but the democrats and RINOs sure want him to.


13 posted on 01/28/2008 12:11:07 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: VideoDoctor

It comes down to the Washington insider vs. the outsider.
Haven’t we all been complaining about these very GOP establishment RINOs who have all endorsed McCain?

These are they politicians we keep saying need to be swept out of Washington. These are the ones who sold out Republican principles and lead to the GOP’s well deserved ‘06 defeat.

We sure as hell aren’t going to nominate THEIR candidate for president!


14 posted on 01/28/2008 12:12:47 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: Secret Agent Man

he is the candidate of the GOP establishment.
Don’t you know who the GOP ESTABLISHMENT are?

They are the RINOs who sell out conservatives every chance they get.
They are the Gerald Fords, not the Ronald Reagans.

McCain being the GOP establishment’s candidate is a RALLYING CRY for conservatives everywhere.
We don’t want business as usual from Washington.
We don’t want open-borders.
We don’t want Big Government.
That is what the GOP ESTABLISHMENT stands for.


15 posted on 01/28/2008 12:16:07 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: counterpunch

If this is the case, then we sure need some new blood in this party’s leadership. This is downright abominable.


16 posted on 01/28/2008 12:17:01 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: DoughtyOne

You just noticed that now?
The GOP establishment killed the Reagan Coalition and the Gingrich Revolution.
The GOP establishment just wants their earmarks and their perks of power.
The GOP establishment lost the majorities in both houses that the Gingrich Revolution brought, through their corruption and excesses, massive government expansion, and power intoxication.


17 posted on 01/28/2008 12:23:05 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: counterpunch

I agree. Pathetic isn’t it.


18 posted on 01/28/2008 12:26:08 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: counterpunch
I DESPISE the foul species known as the Open Border Liberal Democrat!

I will against them every time.

I despise them SO MUCH, I will not vote for them for WHATEVER REASON, even when they have a (R) after their name on the ballot

19 posted on 01/28/2008 12:33:36 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Enough has been said already. The 2008 GOP RINO takeover is complete. It is what it is.)
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To: JMack

All material from the Boston Globe requires a working link to the article and has to be excerpted.

Your post will be removed.


20 posted on 01/28/2008 12:58:17 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I agree. If McCain is the nominee, I'll figure the party has left me or I just misunderstood what the R's were all about to start with and will change my party affiliation to independent.

With Paul McRombeeani as the choice, the open borders crowd wins and I detest it as well. Especially with as many R's voting for amnesty as D's did.

Screw it!

21 posted on 01/28/2008 1:01:52 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
It is definitely worth consideration.

I will let the RNC know about it, too. They need to know why they are being punished.

MAN! are they dense and have thick skulls and cannot tell they are losing the Party faithful, mostly over Open Borders, but lots of other reasons.

I take no fun or joy in saying these things.

But screw 'em!

22 posted on 01/28/2008 1:29:38 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Enough has been said already. The 2008 GOP RINO takeover is complete. It is what it is.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Ya know? I think back on the amnesty fiasco and I have to wonder what's in the mind of the GOP leadership.

They must SURELY realize how much they've alienated their base and now nominating Paul McRombeeani is just going to pour salt into the wound. They spend millions on focus groups and polls so they MUST know the damage they've done to themselves.

Do they just not CARE? Are they so beholden to corporate interests and the pro-illegal crowd that they can just ignore the actual people who VOTE for their candidates?

I'm tired of having my vote taken for granted just because they think I have no place else to go.

The country survived 8 years of Clinton 1, it'll survive 8 years of Clinton 2.

The GOP seems to not comprehend that I don't HAVE to vote for them.

23 posted on 01/28/2008 2:21:04 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: counterpunch

Romney is the only one who isn’t getting a government check.

The rest are on welfare...


24 posted on 01/28/2008 2:27:53 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: counterpunch

They all get government checks...

Except Romney.


25 posted on 01/28/2008 2:30:24 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: counterpunch
McCain attracts the GOP establishment

This pretty much tells me to run.

McCain has several endorsements, including the likes of the NYT, Mel Martinez and a number of jerks who in any individual case would case me to abandon my support.

McCain is a symptom of the disease, not the cure.

26 posted on 01/28/2008 2:34:37 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: counterpunch
Can we all spell: SPIN?

The Slimes stimping for a RINO Liberal. Pure and SImple.

27 posted on 01/28/2008 2:37:03 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Caipirabob

Yep.
McCain is the establishment disguising itself as anti-establishment, just like Hillary.
Romney is the true anti-establishment in the GOP race.


28 posted on 01/28/2008 2:39:15 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Yeah, but 16 years of Clintoons and 8 of Open Border - The Economy is Fine ‘W’ is a bit overbearing.....easily half of a generation.


29 posted on 01/28/2008 2:39:26 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RSmithOpt

It’s not spin.
The Times got it right.
McCain is the clear choice of the Establishment.
Just who do you think is Establishment is?

The Establishment is the Gerald Fords, not the Ronald Reagans of the GOP.

The Establishment is open-borders, Big Government, pork-barrel tax and spending business as usual Washington Republicrats.
And John McCain is their man.

Remember, as Mitt Romney says, Washington is fundamentally broken, and these are the guys who broke it.


30 posted on 01/28/2008 2:43:07 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: counterpunch

To paraphrase Reagan, “I didn’t leave the Republican Party, it left me”.

If McCain is the nominee, see ya.


31 posted on 01/28/2008 2:43:17 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Kozak

Don’t worry.
This is not a good year to be The Establishment. ; )


32 posted on 01/28/2008 2:46:56 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
I agree. If McCain is the nominee, I'll figure the party has left me

I know its left me. If the nominee is McCain I'll leave the top blank or write in . I wont under any circumstance vote McCain, heck no one here motivates me to vote but the rest of the ballot can't be ignored.

33 posted on 01/28/2008 2:49:35 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
Karl Rove said it the best--and very arrogantly--about disenchanted Conservatives (like you and me) when the RINOs seize power.

"Well, where are they gonna' go??!!"

34 posted on 01/28/2008 2:58:14 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Enough has been said already. The 2008 GOP RINO takeover is complete. It is what it is.)
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To: counterpunch
Only Romney has HIS share of "Washington Insiders" involved in his campaign, too. Various forces of influence. He is not an "outsider", across the board, not be a long shot.

I am not that foolish to think so.

(By they way, this is not a pro-Huckster, pro-McAmnesty or pro-Abortiani post here--just in case some others might take delight in these comments I make about Slick Willard).

35 posted on 01/28/2008 3:00:57 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Enough has been said already. The 2008 GOP RINO takeover is complete. It is what it is.)
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To: counterpunch
Gang of 14

"The pact was cobbled together by Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Democrat Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska over months of negotiations that intensified in the last few days as the Senate threatened to plunge into partisan warfare.

Under the pact, Republicans agree to back down from their threat to trigger a rule change to prohibit filibusters on judicial nominees, a maneuver known as the "nuclear option''; and Democrats agree to end all but two of their filibusters against Bush's current and future nominees, including potential Supreme Court picks, except in extraordinary circumstances.

Almost never in recent memory has a small band of senators exerted such tremendous power, in effect staging a coup against the wishes of the White House and the leaders of both parties.

The agreement seeks "to pull the U.S. Senate back from a precipice that would have had lasting impact, damaging impact on the institution," McCain said."

For many decades, the Republican Party salivated over the desire to gain a majority in the U.S. Senate to have a stronger position to influence the choice of Justices for the U.S. Supreme Court. The Gang of 14 was how McSlime and GrahamCracker responded to that decades long effort!
36 posted on 01/28/2008 3:31:22 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: counterpunch

McCain is also the candidate of the open primary crossover Dems seeking to influence the Repub election and the fence sitting “moderates” who don’t know what they want. I am looking forward to a non open primary result for McCain.


37 posted on 01/28/2008 3:48:16 AM PST by doodad
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To: counterpunch

GOP establishment - Country Club East Coast Elites


38 posted on 01/28/2008 4:23:30 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number1FredHeadSwitch2Mitt)
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To: counterpunch

McCain and Clinton both represent the Washington establishment.

That is why a closer look at Obama voters is very important — he is attracting younger, first-time voters who want change from the Washington establishment. Even though it is liberal, his message is resonating.

Even many of the Dem lib establishment understand that. And that is why they, including Kennedy and Kerry, are endorsing Obama.

The GOP establishment could be setting themselves up for a huge defeat, especially if McCain does get the nod and he can’t convince the conservatives to support him.


39 posted on 01/28/2008 4:23:38 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: counterpunch

Like Moses, John McCain will lead the Republicans into the political desert for the next 40 years.


40 posted on 01/28/2008 4:25:32 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number1FredHeadSwitch2Mitt)
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To: counterpunch

There is a full court MSM press.

McCain’s commercials are just trying for reflective glory.

Just saw one with a sepia color like an old 8 mm home movie. Makes me think of mccain as an old man who still does not use the internet.

The MSM wants to protect the beltway.


41 posted on 01/28/2008 4:26:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: counterpunch
McCain has the OPEN-BORDERS ESTABLISHMENT vote locked up in the GOP primary. But no one will vote for McCain in November when they can vote for Hillary instead and get the real thing.
That's why the media loves him.

A McCain nomination is Hillary's only chance to win in November.

42 posted on 01/28/2008 4:27:33 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

FL has a big tax reform vote on tuesday so turnout will be high.

The question is with such a big ecconomic issue, why isn’t the MSM covering it?

Why isn’t the MSM covering mccain OPPOSING insurance reform supported by FL citizens.

CNN, FNC, PMSNBC are all fluff to conceal reporting.

even c-span has puff the magic zogby.


43 posted on 01/28/2008 4:31:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: counterpunch

I’d let Hillary or Obama win before I’d vote for John McCain.


44 posted on 01/28/2008 5:12:23 AM PST by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: counterpunch

The Stupid Party learned nothing from its rout in 2006. Obama and Hillary use the word “change” every ten seconds because they understand that the electorate is not in the mood for same ol’ same ol’. So what do the Pubbies do? Get behind the ultimate inside the beltway elitist country clubber. Bob Dole with more baggage.

Nothing like conceding the battlefield before you even engage the enemy.

Sometimes I think the establishment Republicans are more comfortable in the minority. They’re perfectly happy to sit down and shut up as long as they get invited to the right cocktail parties and golf outings. Meanwhile, the country is circling the bowl. Thanks for nothing, guys.


45 posted on 01/28/2008 5:40:40 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (I don't vote for Democrats, and that includes John McCain.)
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To: LadyNavyVet

The primaries this season ought to be all about overthrowing the Establishment and getting back to conservative principles of limited government.


46 posted on 01/28/2008 6:15:32 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: longtermmemmory

Is it true Jeb Bush is working for Romney in Florida?

If so, is he helping get the word out on McCain’s opposition to insurance reform?


47 posted on 01/28/2008 7:01:34 AM PST by samtheman
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To: counterpunch

McInsane will be another BOB DOLE and give us 8 years of Clinton.


48 posted on 01/28/2008 7:02:38 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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