Posted on 01/27/2008 7:20:41 AM PST by Harrius Magnus
New York Post
BATTLING FOR BOYS
By MARTY NEMKO
January 24, 2008 -- IN the early 1980s, men and women earned an equal proportion of college degrees. Today, however, women attain 135 degrees for every 100 that men do, the National Center for Education Statistics recently reported. By 2016, it'll be 162 to 100.
Since good jobs increasingly require a degree, that disparity portends disaster for men. And a disaster for half our population is a disaster for everyone.
Why the lack of male college graduates? One main reason is that K-12 education has been made girl-friendly at the expense of boys:
*Competition, a prime motivator for boys, has largely been replaced by "cooperative learning."
*Readings about adventure and heroism are giving way to tales of relationships and heroines.
*Social studies now stress men's ill-doings and women's (and minorities') contributions.
*Today, 91 percent of elementary-school teachers arewomen, the highest level on record. The main male role model most boys see in school is the custodian.
So it shouldn't surprise us that a University of Michigan study found that the number of boys who say they don't like school rose 71 percent from 1980 to 2001.
When boys get home, the lack of positive male role models and the assault on their self-esteem continues: TV portrays most men as buffoons or sleaze bags shown up by wise, confident women.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/009766.html
Most of these degrees are in useless studies such as communication, English, and other liberal arts.
Boys and girls rule. We’ll do everything in our power to make boys and girls feel worthy.
Hopefully the infatuation with “degrees” will one day come to an end.
Too right, Perdogg. Both your post and the main article. I went to University for two years. All it taught me was that I was a white male hetero scumbag. I started taking some computer science courses, got hired in the industry and haven’t looked back since. Whereas most of the Uni educated people I know are barely employable.
I think people like to add the abbreviations of their degrees after their names as a memorial to the alphabet-soup agencies that FDR established and that were emblematic of the coming Leviathan State.
College degrees are quickly becoming nothing more than the credentials needed to preach from the altar of Collectivism.
Classrooms were redesigned to accomodate the girl “crisis”.
Now they are going to have to rething what they’ve done, as there is an obvious boy “crisis.”
But since most of the educational staff is made up of empowered liberal women, they refuse to see the crisis and are quite satisfied with drugging boys into submission.
I work for a Fortune 500 company, and unless the job requires specialized training (e.g., engineers) HR does not give consideration to a degree after 10 years from graduation. They are only interested in job experience.
Yep. Well put. I don’t see it though. Liberals and the media are not going to say anything about this disparity.
It is a disparity they think is a good thing.
Some folks are fighting the good fight.
It is something many male educators (the ones who haven’t been emasculated) have been fighting against - but also female educators who actually have sons of their own.
It appears the worst offenders are young childless liberal women - or those who don’t have sons.
bump
It started at West Point in 1976, the rest of the countries school system followed like lemmings -- and it has been downhill ever since.
That’s good to hear that viewpoint...:)
the idea that everyone needs to go to college is a huge scam.
now i have an MBA and i have done fine with it, but it took a long time for me to even get near what peers did with fields in the trades.
trade work is physically demanding and it only makes sense that more women would be enrolling in school.
now if they can focus and get degrees in things other than anthropology and psychology, then perhaps one day we’ll even see this so called gender gap in income disappear.
“the idea that everyone needs to go to college is a huge scam.”
a scam that the educrats of the NYS Board of Regents have fallen for.
In a nutshell: When men* begin leaving some thing (a certain career, profession,college degrees) it is almost always b/c that "thing" is no longer worth the time and trouble it takes.
Maybe it's a genetic thing, that men instinctively tend towards job skills, etc. that has the better chance of supporting a family. In this case a college degree is a perfect example: the fact that fewer and fewer men are getting them should be looked upon as a "mystery" or "tragedy" or some other psycho-babble, but as grim testimony to the increasing worthlessness, the "chic-a-facation" of college degrees. **
Look at those professions once dominated by men that are now seeing experiencing an ever growing number of female practitioners***. It's almost a sure bet its no longer the money making career it once had been. ======================================
* Good grief, of course not all men and not every degree.
** I'm a femme so it's okay for me to say that.
*** And, for heaven sakes!, this is not saying in any way, shape, or form, that female practitioners aren't just as professional as men; merely that the initial, original economic incentive of times gone by is almost certainly no longer there.
My wife and I have been noticing for years now, how wimped out this politically correct once great country has become.
Check out the major networks news outlets on daytime tv, all the newscasters and the so called experts they bring in to comment on the news are women. When have you seen
a commercial where the minority male or the white female is the scapegoat or fool? The minority male and the white female are usually doubled up on the foolish white guy, who in ALL cases is the brunt of their superiority!
It’s obvious to us that we are being set up by powers to be in this country who are untouchables...Females and minorities!!
We are seeing direct results of these mind games by the witch from hell itself who is running for president of this once great coutry...
Hey folks, Ya ain’t seen nuthin’ yet...
A white male doesn’t stand a chance in the future, and thats for sure!!
It might also be good to question whether college degrees are as necessary on a resume as they used to be. That is, if a boy can earn a *better* living without a college degree than with it, what motivates him to go to college?
Many universities have evolved into a cross between diploma mills and mandatory paper chases. Much of what is taught is expensive fluff, and what results is not an education so much as student indebtedness for decades.
At some point, major employers will begin to question the entire premise. Since their new hires often need basic skills reeducation, on top of specialized learning unique to that business, all a diploma does is certify incompetence. If a prospective employee can perform at or above standards, their diploma or lack thereof is meaningless.
After this happens, where employers only care about a prospective employees abilities, not their diploma, schools will be faced with a new paradigm: employment insurance.
That is, say a school graduates 500 engineers, 450 of whom are able to find employment *as engineers* within 2 years. In that case, the school has done its job and earned its tuition.
However, if a school graduates 500 engineers, and only 150 of them are able to find employment *as engineers* within 2 years, even in an economic downturn, that school has failed to educate those students to needed standards.
The other 350 students, *or* those who loaned them money, should have the right to demand a rebate for their tuition. And it is right and proper that the school should be punished for not doing its job. But at the same time, schools probably cannot afford such a rebate, so that is why they should be required to purchase “education insurance” for their students.
This would mean that insurers would be motivated to get and keep universities academic standards at the level where their graduates get hired. The insurers would hold the universities feet to the fire.
It would also mean that many graduate programs would end. Graduate programs that produce far greater numbers of Master’s degrees and PhDs than could ever be hired. Unless someone is getting a graduate degree for their own edification, this nonsense should end, or those students should be reimbursed for their expenses.
English as "useless?" Well, what if you wanted to be a writer. Are we useless? I don't think so.
It's a trend that is in its infancy up here in Canada, and you wouldn't otherwise have thought, given our country's pathetic slide into leftism, but as it stands, I believe the backlash is starting, especially amongst Canadian men. None of us wants to go to Uni and learn feminist studies and other such wastes of time.
I'm also noticing a trend beginning in some women - I actually met a woman a while back who describes herself as Libertarian - a small step, but encouraging nonetheless, most Canadian women can only be described as radical feminists/borderline lesbian.
Yes, I agree. The young, childless women teachers have an agenda, I believe. I taught school, then homeschooled, now am tutoring one on one. I also volunteer in a local middle/ high school. The women teachers can be the worst — full of theoretical ‘knowledge,’ ruined by the unions (’that is not MY job’) and often feminists of the worst sort.
I apologize for that generalization. The context which I said was in regards to actually marketable skills for a high tech economy.
In those sentences you covered almost all the issues!
Ritilin is a male thing
Education is
Anti Capitalist
Anti culture (multicultural)
Anti American
Anti Military
and ERA + Sportsmania have emasculated American sports
good call
(mother, father, wife were/are teachers...my favorite teacher was 5th grade...a male)
You can certainly become a writer without an English degree.
“The women teachers can be the worst — full of theoretical ‘knowledge,’ ruined by the unions (’that is not MY job’) and often feminists of the worst sort.”
yes, often the most vocal “experts” are the ones who are not raising children of their own.
I am always hopeful for change when these types become pregnant, and gleeful when I hear they are going to have a boy.
Welcome to the real world!
“(mother, father, wife were/are teachers...my favorite teacher was 5th grade...a male)”
LOL!
I don’t get it from personal experience - but I do hear it secondhand when my christian/conservative educator hubby comes home.
I do get some firsthand info when socializing with the teachers.
We are fortunate in that this is a small, rural district where the teachers tend to be christians and not AS liberal as most.
One of the few counties in NY that regularly goes red.
Well, I'm a tech writer. That's part of the high tech economy.
Okay I am sorry.
That wasn't my point; you have to be careful what you declare worthless. I've been a technical writer for many years, I don't have an English degree, but I'm thankful for the English classes I did complete (I dropped one!). What I will say on the subject is that a liberal arts degree requires a certain amount of talent and hard work before you can be a successful practitioner. But that's true of the Sciences as well. Not everyone can write code or solder wires. It just isn't in them.
ping
and let’s not forget those all-important degrees in ‘Womyn’s Studies.’!
Hopefully the infatuation with “degrees” will one day come to an end.
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Hopefully, a new system of post K-12 education will emerge.
The goal of the Marxists who control the NEA and the colleges of education is to emasculate boys and turn them into girly men. It is all part of the plan to destroy Western Civilization.
Unfortunately, there are armies of not too bright college of education majors will to be the Marxists’ Useful Idiots.
Yes, haha, when they get married and have BOYS. I remember talking with friends when my son/ our kids were all about 18 months old. “I don’t think this sexes-are-the-same stuff makes any sense.” Even my Social Worker friend agreed. There is nothing quite as solid as reality.
We love white males here. Don’t give up, the tide is changing. Haven’t you noticed? Abortions down 25%. The MSM is losing readership daily, papers folding. The blogs are front and center, and THEY don’t have pc-representatives. It’s all a facade with no substance behind it.
You are all right and yet, we have homeschooling. And blogs.
My 11 yr old grandson can’t see any reason for going to school, he thinks he can learn all he needs to know by working with his dad and grandpa, he’s not half-wrong.
SINGLE SEX EDUCATION NOW!!!
I know what you mean, both my boys went for a year, they have no problems making a living.
There was an excellent article awhile back by Camille Paglia. She stated that academia (which she is a part of; and which she is critical of) had become to ‘feminized.’ And that by pandering to the feminists; ‘true’ males (or words to that affect) who had in use for or interest in liberal arts were being given the shaft. It was a great article (Camille gets it right alot of the time) she expressed that she felt entrepernurial skills, and blue collar jobs were wrongly looked down upon and that not everyone was destined to be happy in a cubicle She tauted that we are raising another generation of MBAs but there are few skilled workers (plumbers, electricians, etc). Great piece, and as four of my children are boys one that I read w/great interest.
A social worker agreed?
They’re even more liberal than teachers!
Yes - I’ve seen many do a turnabout when they had to start raising boys. It’s a good thing.
This is all part of the “one world” Hillary plan. Haven’t you heard her talk about how NASA told her she couldn’t be an astronaut and that was her dream.
One of the main goals on the UN site is promoting and educating women. I think that the two income broken family is all part of the ploy. The more women out of the home, the more the government education system has power of all their subjects.
I think they are “ruined” by the universities themselves. The amount of psycho babble that is taught to teach math and reading is amazing.
>>Most of these degrees are in useless studies such as communication, English, and other liberal arts.<<
Yep, a fair comparison would adjust by the quality of the degree and the quality of the school.
When men are no longer getting Engineering degrees from Cal Tech and MIT or business degrees from Stanford and Wharton then we can talk about discrimination that matters.
aaarrrggghhh, teaching math, don’t get me started. I have never seen such drivel. My husband, a Caltech guy, froths at the mouth when I ask for help with the algebra text I am slogging through — for my 8th graders. The science is bad, the explanations are worse, and the amount of compost in the book is ridiculous.
Plus, it runs $100+!! Shuck and jive.
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