Great Britain: Brown banishes 300-year-old tradition by removing Britannia from our 50p coin

The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | January 26, 2008 | SIMON McGEE and GLEN OWEN

[ThePythonicCow]

Makes you wish for the 2nd Civil War to show up, huh?

Last time around, the seceded states held out for several years against the Feds. How many hours do you think they could hold out this time?

[Chiltepe]

“He really, underneath it all, hates his country, doesn’t he? An entire class of people have somehow gotten into office who hate Britain and all she stood for.”

Bingo. And so it is across the Western world. I also wonder about what someone else brought up, that it might have something to do with muslims being “offended” by having to look at her. We KNOW why the leftists hate her: She’s a white woman holding a trident and shield. How horrible.

[ThePythonicCow]

Interesting looking site. Here it is, as an active link:

http://www.englishmonarchs.co.uk/

This site is designed to bring to life, as vividly as possible, the history of the Kings and Queens of England from Egbert, first 'King of the English' , who reigned 802-839 A.D. Through over a thousand years of England's rich and varied history, to the throne's present occupant, Elizabeth II. It contains a short biography of each English monarch along with many illustrations, maps (where applicable) and genealogical tables, in an easy to follow format arranged by dynasties. We also take a look at the Tower of London, the Crown Jewels and the royal residences.

[RetiredArmy]

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!

[joebuck]

"Last time around, the seceded states held out for several years against the Feds. How many hours do you think they could hold out this time?"

A second civil war would be fought on ideological not geographical battlelines.

[dljordan]

It’s important to destroy the cultural artifacts of western civilization in order to form a more compliant society. Only the indigenous peoples of third world countries are allowed to retain their culture, even when they move to a first world western nation. We’re being “harmonized”. ;)

[Stoat]

Anyone who appreciates Sir Winston (as do I) will not be happy.

Churchill dropped from England's history syllabus ( pandering to a P.C. agenda)

Great Britain Fury at Churchill statue (Former PM and beloved hero is in a straightjacket)

[ThePythonicCow]

A second civil war would be is being fought on ideological not geographical battlelines.

[WoofDog123]

“We’re being “harmonized”. ;)”

This explanation fits the known facts better than any other, of course, and taken in the context of globalization, political unification of disparate groups, etc., it makes perfect sense for it to be a goal.

[Proud_USA_Republican]

Rise Britannia to be replaced with Rise Islamia.

[trickyricky]

There's an easy solution to this:

DON'T ACCEPT THE NEW COINS!!!

It works for us.

[Don W]

How many of the new “states” quarters have you used?

It’s part of a plan to abase all our institutions and symbols, making them meaningless and trite.

It started with the loss of silver, nickel and copper in coinage, and is continuing with constant redesigns of folding money and new “novelty” coinage.

It’s pretty hard to avoid using coins that are part of your change.

[redstateconfidential]

The youth are busy wearing hoodies and running rampant, the women still swoon over Dodie Fayedh, the men say thank you nicely while the the Mosques echo through loudspeakers the call to the faithful.Their patrol boats surrender faster than a Frenchman to a German Sewage wagon.Britain is done, are we next(?), I think PC thought is stronger than ever(under Bush and 6 years of the RINO’S), and thusly the death kneel of a Western Country.
Remember Spain is Osama’s Bit#h!

[Winniesboy]

The various ritual obituaries to Britian on this thread would be rather more convincing if the Queen’s head had been dropped - it hasn’t, and remains on all coins, where it is required by statute. The article is also rather disingenuous. For many years Britannia has been replaced on the obverse of various coins by a variety of other symbols and images. The only difference here is that for the first time this will happen on all the denominations of coin at the same time. Carry on with your work, lads, not a revolution.

[Stoat]

There's an easy solution to this:

DON'T ACCEPT THE NEW COINS!!!

It works for us.
 

Such a sensible, proactive defense against this continuing assault against tradition and culture requires considerable dedication, organization and passion.  Do you see evidence of this?  Regrettably, I don't.  These are people who have enthusiastically disarmed themselves, after all.

There's an easy solution to this:

DON'T ACCEPT THE NEW COINS!!!

It works for us.
 

[uksupport1]

This is typical Daily Mail hysteria. What other country’s press in the world could link an alteration in the design of a coin (to what the designers say is a very British, symbloic new one) to an attack on the fabric of the nation?

If the only thing the Mail has to whinge about is the design of a coin then Britain can’t be in that bad a state can it?

It fits a pattern:

Press anywhere else in the world: this story would be on a back page. ‘Design change to our currency’.

UK press: ‘UK Culture, History and Heritage eradicated in slaughter of traditional coin design!’

Its ridiculous. The press have lost all sense of perspective in the UK.

[Stoat]

The various ritual obituaries to Britian on this thread would be rather more convincing if the Queen’s head had been dropped

Had such an insult been perpetrated against Great Britain, this thread would be categorized in Front Page news and would probably have have about a thousand apoplectic posts within the first hour, mass protests in Trafalgar Square and candlelight vigils in front of British embassies all over the world.  Or, in a perfect world it would.  Whether it would in fact evoke such passion these days is doubtful..  Regardless, removal of The Queen's head from all coinage would be an entirely different magnitude of insult, and would be responded to in an entirely different way, as it should be.

 The article is also rather disingenuous. For many years Britannia has been replaced on the obverse of various coins by a variety of other symbols and images. The only difference here is that for the first time this will happen on all the denominations of coin at the same time.

And the Mail points out this fact quite clearly, which causes it to fail in any slide toward 'disingenuousness' in my view.

 Carry on with your work, lads, not a revolution.

No it's not a 'revolution', merely the continuation of the metastasis of the cancer of Socialism, which some of us reject more passionately than others.

My great hope is that any conservative British online news forums will be similarly outraged with the numerous small American traditions that are constantly being chipped away at over here....and I would be quite thankful for their support in recognizing the importance of maintaining time-honored patriotic traditions and in pointing the finger of blame squarely at the Left. 

[Winniesboy]

I entirely agree about the slow erosion of small traditions: but in the case of the British coinage, there has been a gradual decline for a long time, really dating back to the debasement of the silver content in 1920; while the direct relationship between face and intrinsic value began to go, in the case of the sovereign, with the abandonment of the gold standard in the 1930s and was complete for all denominations with decimalisation in 1971. These events were, it seems to me, much more significant in the long-term decline than the intermittent dispensation with a cherished iconic image. Several, incidentally, took place under Conservative governments, but that’s by the by!

[mewzilla]

Good gad.

[Stoat]

This is typical Daily Mail hysteria.

If that's the case, then we're going to have to categorize The Sunday Times as being "hysterical" as well, as they have a prominent article on this entirely newsworthy event, although without the fun graphics of the Mail.  If the Times had been out first with this article I would probably have posted their version instead, but as is usual The Times is late to the game.

One could easily say that The Times' choice of title for this article is even more "hysterical" than that chosen by the Mail if one were to lean toward that sort of dismissive and insulting categorization, which in this case I'm not:

After 2,000 years Britannia retires - Times Online

What other country’s press in the world could link an alteration in the design of a coin (to what the designers say is a very British, symbloic new one) to an attack on the fabric of the nation?

Remove the Queen's portrait from all coinage, as was done with Britannia for the first time in 300 years, and sit back to watch not only the entire Press worldwide go ballistic but also the mass protests in the streets of Great Britain.

Symbolism, particularly patriotic symbolism, is very important to a great many people.  When it comes to coinage, it's a symbol of your country and it's design is a point of pride.  Ask a patriotic Canadian if he or she would like for Canada's colorful paper currency to be 'toned down' to the far more reserved hues of American paper currency and be prepared to be hit over the head with a hockey stick.

If the only thing the Mail has to whinge about is the design of a coin then Britain can’t be in that bad a state can it?

Oh, they 'whinge' about a whole lot of things, some more important and some considerably less.

Press anywhere else in the world: this story would be on a back page

Unless it was a matter of their own currency dropping a beloved and popular 300 year old tradition, in which case you'd see it portrayed very prominently.

If George Washington were to be removed by near-overnight Governmental fiat from our one dollar bill, you'd have rioting in the streets across America..

UK press: ‘UK Culture, History and Heritage eradicated in slaughter of traditional coin design!’

I wouldn't use a title like that for this current change, but I'd keep a variation of it in mind if they were to ever remove the Queen's portrait from all currency.

Its ridiculous.

I'm sorry that you feel that way.  Many of us view it as entirely appropriate to be outraged over these small, incremental assaults against Tradition, which can usually be traced to the Left.  It can be viewed similarly to the frog being slowly boiled....if you don't stand up for patriotism and national pride when the little things are at stake, soon they will all be gone and we'll be wondering what became of our country, or yours.

Socialism always arrives by bicycle, as they say.  Incrementalism is how it works, because Socialists have the long-term view and don't mind toiling away for generations until their achieve their goal.  Chip away at culture, patriotism, religion, and everything else that serves as the glue for a Nation and a culture and eventually they've remodeled it in their worldview, and the people wonder how it happened.

 The press have lost all sense of perspective in the UK.

They have everywhere, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're always wrong.