Sorry, Rudy! No Sale.
Posted on 01/23/2008 10:31:44 AM PST by jdm
It took Nixon to go to China. It took Bill Clinton, a Democrat, to get control of the federal deficit. (Sorry, conservatives, but it’s true.) And it might take Rudy Giuliani to appoint solid Supreme Court Justices.
With Fred Thompson out of the race, judicial conservatives are looking for a candidate. John McCain? Three words: Gang of 14. Mike Huckabee? He’ll never be President. Mitt Romney? Ehhhh . . . he might be OK — but I think he comes across to voters as too slick and unprincipled. And there may be a reason for that.
But there’s no reason, in my judgment, to question Rudy Giuliani on the issue of judges. This is the argument made in a September 2007 New York Times op-ed piece that I think is worth resurrecting with Thompson’s exit. The op-ed was written at a time when Giuliani was looking much stronger in the polls, but the substance of the op-ed still holds:
I think Mr. Giuliani will be the most effective advocate for the pro-life cause precisely because he is unreligious and a supporter of abortion rights.
The author makes a very persuasive case:
In a televised Republican debate, Mr. Giuliani said it would be “O.K.” if Roe were overturned but “O.K. also” if the Supreme Court viewed it as a binding precedent. Despite this ambivalence, Mr. Giuliani promises to nominate judges who are “strict constructionists.” His campaign Web site explains: “It is the responsibility of the people and their representatives to make laws. It is the role of judges to apply those laws, not to amend our Constitution without the consent of the American people.”
Roe v. Wade, with no textual warrant in the Constitution, struck down the states’ democratically enacted restrictions on abortion. By fighting Roe, pro-lifers aim not to make abortion illegal by judicial fiat, but to return the decision about how to regulate abortion to the states, where we are confident we can win.
Our greatest obstacle is the popular belief that overturning Roe would automatically make abortion illegal everywhere. In fact, our goal may well be undermined by politicians like President Bush, who seem to use “strict constructionist” as nothing more than code for “anti-abortion.”
Only a constitutionalist who supports abortion rights can create an anti-Roe majority by explaining that the end of Roe means letting the people decide, state by state, about abortion.
Mr. Giuliani’s ambivalence about the end of Roe is consistent with his belief that judges should not seek to achieve political ends. This is a judicial philosophy that pro-lifers should applaud, not condemn. It is, after all, the position consistently articulated by the pro-life movement’s favorite Supreme Court justices: John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia.
Indeed.
I am ambivalent about abortion myself. I’m not confident that abortion is “murder” from the very moment of conception. But I think the inflexible law created by the Supreme Court has created a set of rules that allow abortions too late, for flimsy or nonexistent justifications.
But regardless of your personal view, we should all be able to agree that the issue should be decided by We the People and not nine lawyers wearing robes.
I think Rudy believes that. Last time I checked, Rudy’s advisory committee was people with folks I respect and trust on this issue, like Ted Olson and Miguel Estrada. These are not weak-kneed adherents of a living Constitution, and I don’t think Rudy is either.
Mr. Giuliani makes the same arguments that we pro-lifers make. But he can be more persuasive because he will not be perceived as trying to advance his own religious preferences. By taking the side of pro-lifers for democratic, but not devout, motives, a President Giuliani could shake up the nearly 35-year-old debate over Roe v. Wade.
I agree. I think Rudy could make that happen — if only Republicans would allow him to be the nominee.
I’m not a Rudy fan either but I do believe he’d be ok on judicial appointments. He was a tough-on-crime prosecutor and as such is going to want strict-constructionist judges.
Really now why should I ‘’’’’’believe’’’’’???? Rudy does not live under conservatism why would he want that rule of law?
Huh?
TO PROTECT US FROM LIBERALS LIKE HIMSELF. /s
Well, at least that’s what his face is saying today.
Rudy will not be President so the idea is merely fanciful speculation which, in all sincerity, I doubt. He will not appoint ‘soild conservatives’ because that’ll upset the NYC liberals too much.
“It took Bill Clinton, a Democrat, to get control of the federal deficit.”
Stopped reading right there
Oh, yeah. That debt clock really was spinning backwards when the Master-Insink-abator was in office.
While wearing a pick dress.
Liberal judges boost imaginary rights to full legal status, such as the right of foreign combatants to full judicial process. Liberal judges let hardened criminals out of jail with a slap on the wrist.
in other news, Black is White, Amelia Erhart is found alive and living with Judge Crater and Scientist clone flying pig
Sorry Mr. Lib but that's not true. Clinton was NEVER for a balanced budget. A new conservative congress elected in '94 forced a budget on Clinton in order to deal with the deficit. Clinton's last proposed budget called for $200 billion deficits. When the Republican plan actually worked, Clinton tried to take credit for the plan he fought tooth and nail against.
That was my thought, too. He is no fan of the 2nd Amendment.
It took a conservative Congress to get control of the federal deficit...boy, couldn't we use that now
I don't trust for a minute that Rudy would appoint strict constructionist judges...Rudy either doesn't understand the US Constitution and the limited powers the federal government has...or he doesn't care
How else to explain the fact that, in 1993, he met with President Clinton to push for national gun registration? How else to explain that Rudy was a vocal supporter of the Brady Bill (which he claimed didn't go far enough)? How else to explain that Rudy supported the federal ban on certain semi-automatic firearms?
That statement alone loses all credibility the article had.
It took a conservative congress elected in 1994 to get control of the federal deficit. The author should know that all spending bills start with the House of Representatives.
That just may be the most ridiculous statement that I've ever read. What absolute horse manure.
Well, the headline didn’t say solid WHAT....
;)
I couldn’t support Rudy in good conscience. The man is the worst of the bunch, by far
Please!
You do know to post a “Barf Alert” in the title when positing pukeage like this, now don’t you?
MITT ROMNEY will be a much better conservative candidaate and will appoint conservative judges.
I would look to Giuliani’s strengths for who he might appoint.
For example, he is a big fan of policemen. Therefore, I wouldn’t look to any appointment to be drafting new Miranda rights soon. Most likely tough as nails on L&O issues.
Second, look to what he did to Times Square. This would possibly mean that he would fully support the Kelo decision for eminent domain. Guiliani like gentrification.
Third, relations with Mexico would pick up, as they hired him for advice on how to fix Mexico City. This could impact illegal immigration, trade, the drug war and gangs.
Sorry Rudy - not buying your pandering here.
First of all, he can’t appoint anyone, he can only nominate. And after the dem controlled congress rejects them, he’d just throw his hands up and say “I tried, here’s another Ginsburg”.
He siezed property without due process. He’s notoriously anti Second Amendment.
That’s not law and order that’s Jackboot Socialism.
Spit on the constitution, you spit on me. However, I forget ... few have ever read the constitution.
Stinking RINO’s ...
Sure. He had such a GOOD record in New York City.
This was a rational thought six months ago before Rudy tanked.
I don’t know if Rudy will be able to recover his campaign or not, but I do think he means it when he says he would appoint strict constructionist judges. I don’t see any reason to doubt it.
But in the real world, it doesn’t matter what the next President thinks about abortion. Whether pro-life or pro-abortion the President will have no effect on the number of abortions performed.
No way, who needs Miguel Estrada or Ted Olson’s opinions?
Let’s go with McCain he campaigns against conservatives, but we just know he does not mean it!
(LOL)
Rudolph also made promises to his several wives.
FGS
How many times is this BS balloon going to be floated?
With that OUTRAGEOUS and TOTALLY LUDICROUS logic--
just think how effective Hillary would be for,,,
the pro-life, pro-second amendment, anti-amnesty, smaller, leaner, less intrusive, less expensive government, anti-affirmative action, anti-socialized medicine, tax reduction and anti-nanny state advocates...LMAO!!!
You can't be serious.
Rudy made NYC a sanctuary city against federal law. Rudy sued the federal government for the right to protect illegals which included terrorists. Rudy lost, twice, in court and when he did he vowed to continue the policy regardless of the law or the court's decisions. So much for "law and order".
Rudy had a pathetic record as mayor for appointing liberal judges, most of them Democrats. He appointed openly gay and ACLU backed judges. Rudy stated how he admired Ruth Bader Ginsburg as a Supreme Court Justice. So much for judicial appointments.
Hi onyx, Haven’t seen you posting in a while. I guess this essay was worth posting, just to see you back. :)
Dang me, dang me
gonna take a rope
and hang me, hang me
from the highest tree
Oh, Rooty don’t you try
for me.
Uh, I am done. He would also go for taxpayer funded abortion, even said he would pay for one for his own daughter. He would march in front of the NAMBLA banner, he would not even try to protect marriage, he has proven he will go for gun grabbing, he has a personal life that resembles a sleazy soap opera etc.
I could add to that, but I am busy.
I missed that the first time. That is definitely ROTFLMAO material.
Since Rudy will never be president, it’s all moot and irrelevant. I am struck by the notion that a person can say they’re “not confident” that abortion represents, at the very least, a killing, but a murder because it is done for no other cause than convenience. Once unimagineable advances in medical technology have, as far as I can see, made such mythical fancies nothing more than positions taken without information. “Opinions” or “confidence” (or lack thereof) which are not supported by available scientific evidence are meaningless.
I’m still hoping for a couple of SC exits this spring. One can wish.
Yep,,,,with that skewed, pathetic and unbelievably bogus logic...HILLARY WOULD BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE ADVOCATE FOR THE PRO-LIFE CAUSE!!!! Heck,,,,she would be even better!!,,,lol
Sad but true.
“It took Bill Clinton, a Democrat, to get control of the federal deficit.”
Huh?
A common misunderstanding. The TECH REVOLUTION, THE ECONOMY and the BOOMING STOCK MARKET CAPITAL GAINS REVENUES are what balanced the budget IN SPITE OF HillBILLery, NOT because of him.
Bill Clinton had none of the huge problems that faced the US after the dot com crash and 9/11. It was smooth sailing during his regime - just sheer luck.
Had not heard this, what property?
I would be the best hall monitor because I am a child molester...
“Message to Religious Conservatives: Giuliani Would Appoint Solid Supreme Court Justices”
The man would pay for the murder of his own grandchild but he wouldn’t lie to get my vote. Is that what I’m supposed to swallow here?
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